Ecuador Cuts Internet Access for Julian Assange to Preserve Neutrality in U.S. Election

[Prysin]

13 minutes ago, Deletist_Jerk said:

That option is being explored, but it's not that easy when qualifications are absurdly high for the IT positions (overseas) through American contractors. 

EU immigration laws are way way way way way way way way way way way more lax then american ones. Take that from someone who looked into going from EU to US. You're either a exceptionally highly educated engineer, specialist doctor, or a russian mail order bride. Anything else aint getting into murica the legal way.

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, Prysin said:

EU immigration laws are way way way way way way way way way way way more lax then american ones. Take that from someone who looked into going from EU to US. You're either a exceptionally highly educated engineer, specialist doctor, or a russian mail order bride. Anything else aint getting into murica the legal way.

Those requirements are pretty similar to much of the EU.

[Noctus]

I remember this Forum sub section used to be about actual Technological news and reviews and not about anything remotely connected to technology (ie: Jay-z broke his iphone or one direction's Pr team posted a revealing twitter pic or even what this topic is about...)

[Prysin]

44 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Those requirements are pretty similar to much of the EU.

EU is more lax about their requirements, yes they list the same things, but they enforce it diffrently.

 

Also, EU doesnt have a law that states "EU goods first". US however, HAS a law that demands that companies prioritizes US labor and US products before looking abroad.

[Sakkura]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

EU is more lax about their requirements, yes they list the same things, but they enforce it diffrently.

 

Also, EU doesnt have a law that states "EU goods first". US however, HAS a law that demands that companies prioritizes US labor and US products before looking abroad.

A lot of this is still legislated nationally. And I promise you the enforcement can be strict.

[Tech_Dreamer]

11 minutes ago, Noctus said:

I remember this Forum sub section used to be about actual Technological news and reviews and not about anything remotely connected to technology (ie: Jay-z broke his iphone or one direction's Pr team posted a revealing twitter pic or even what this topic is about...)

or like a solid legit tech news from WCCF

[tlink]

6 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

Oh shit ! is that a drone?

this killed me lmao

[tlink]

6 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

What's even more mind boggling is that until recently Asange was a hero and a symbol of truth for Liberals.  Now they'll tell you he's a liar or that they never liked him.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

stop generalizing people. liberals is not a single entity, they have diverse opinions. some liberals agree some disagree. how is this hard to understand or even surprising?

[tlink]

5 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

He was until he sold his soul to Russia, and he's been conclusively caught now fabricating smear documents.

source?

[alexyy]

1 hour ago, Prysin said:

EU doesnt have a law that states "EU goods first". US however, HAS a law that demands that companies prioritizes US labor and US products before looking abroad.

That's also a thing in the UK at least, I imagine it's pretty similar in the rest of Europe.  

[Notional]

So the US government is actively silencing Assange, even when he is in another country? So insanely corrupt.

[Prysin]

52 minutes ago, tlink said:

source?

Patrick is just fanboying over america. Its perfectly understandable since he is an american.

[Michael McAllister]

5 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

http://www.greenvillegazette.com/p/hillary-clinton-vindicated-after-wikileaks-caught-fabricating-released-emails-144211/

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

https://www.wired.com/2016/07/wikileaks-officially-lost-moral-high-ground/

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/russian-propaganda-on-wikileaks-makes-its-way-into-a-donald-trump-speech-in-record-time/

 

The Sidney Blumenthal documents were taken out of context and misattributed by Sputnik News. The author quickly realized his mistake but it already went viral. This article by Cassandra Fairbanks explains what happened.

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, tlink said:

source?

I provided four of them in a post just after that one.

[Tech_Dreamer]

1 hour ago, tlink said:

this killed me lmao

 

It killed me too.. #drone

[patrickjp93]

32 minutes ago, Michael McAllister said:

 

The Sidney Blumenthal documents were taken out of context and misattributed by Sputnik News. The author quickly realized his mistake but it already went viral. This article by Cassandra Fairbanks explains what happened.

That's not all I linked. Emails between Kerry and Clinton, Abedin and Clinton, and several others were complete, shoddy forgeries well outside the normal language patterns of verified emails. The Trump-Russia connection is very real through Stone, and Wikileaks has reported none of the Russian corruption for the past year. The integrity of Wikileaks is in tatters.

[Tech_Dreamer]

24 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That's not all I linked. Emails between Kerry and Clinton, Abedin and Clinton, and several others were complete, shoddy forgeries well outside the normal language patterns of verified emails. The Trump-Russia connection is very real through Stone, and Wikileaks has reported none of the Russian corruption for the past year. The integrity of Wikileaks is in tatters.

it depends on the angle i suppose , theres only accusations & claims on whos working for who, people get to it depending on what state they're want to be in , at this point We've seen extremely over-hyped events from the other sides to begin with, assuming true but severely dirt smearing accusations (whether false or true) & general downgrading of policies (assuming fabricated partially or fully) by the DNC , No one's hands are too clean to begin with

 

And the articles linked alongside/advertised in those posts on those site links are mostly "Bad Trump" "Good Clinton" articles , almost seems a bit excessively biased

[patrickjp93]

8 minutes ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

it depends on the angle i suppose , theres only accusations & claims on whos working for who, people get to it depending on what state they're want to be in , at this point We've seen extremely over-hyped events from the other sides to begin with, assuming true but severely dirt smearing accusations (whether false or true) & general downgrading of policies (assuming fabricated partially or fully) by the DNC , No one's hands are too clean to begin with

 

And the articles linked alongside/advertised in those posts on those site links are mostly "Bad Trump" "Good Clinton" articles , almost seems a bit excessively biased

You do know those are procedurally provided according to various info coming in from Facebook and Google accounts, right? I get a page full of libertarian articles.

[Trik'Stari]

Oh look.

 

I wonder when the "re-education camps" will be starting up. Obama already wants a "ministry of truth"

[Michael McAllister]

22 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That's not all I linked. Emails between Kerry and Clinton, Abedin and Clinton, and several others were complete, shoddy forgeries well outside the normal language patterns of verified emails. The Trump-Russia connection is very real through Stone, and Wikileaks has reported none of the Russian corruption for the past year. The integrity of Wikileaks is in tatters.

 

I looked at your links and all of them, except for the Wired link, talk about the Sidney Blumenthal drama.  There have been some mainstream outlets that have linked to supposed forgeries, but those have come from the dailynewsbin.

 

I've said this before on other sites but I'll reiterate here.  If any of these false documents are proven to be disseminated by WikiLeaks, not a third-party attributing them to WikiLeaks, the appropriate legal action can be taken.  Writing or providing false documents which are potentially damaging to a person's character is libel.

 

A third-party website saying WikiLeaks forged documents is not the same as linking to the documents in question.

[patrickjp93]

5 minutes ago, Michael McAllister said:

 

I looked at your links and all of them, except for the Wired link, talk about the Sidney Blumenthal drama.  There have been some mainstream outlets that have linked to supposed forgeries, but those have come from the dailynewsbin.

 

I've said this before on other sites but I'll reiterate here.  If any of these false documents are proven to be disseminated by WikiLeaks, not a third-party attributing them to WikiLeaks, the appropriate legal action can be taken.  Writing or providing false documents which are potentially damaging to a person's character is libel.

 

A third-party website saying WikiLeaks forged documents is not the same as linking to the documents in question.

Libel is not an extraditable offense, and there's nothing that could be done. Assange is behind a bought and paid for political firewall just so Russia can poke at the U.S. and cover its own ass.

 

The docs are forged. Intelligence experts who worked for the FBI have said so as well.

[Briggsy]

Not living in the US myself, I don't see much of a difference between the demo and repub candidates, at least when it comes to what they would do once in power. Trump is running on the platform that Hillary stands for privately, while Hillary is running on the "bread and circuses" platform. 

 

When you break it down, both candidates will end up supporting TPP, which only serves to lift the environmental regulations of companies by threat of lawsuits against governments. Its bad enough international corporations can sue greenpeace for 100 million, imagine the S**tstorm that will hit any government trying to regulate pollution produced by foreign companies on domestic soil.

 

Both candidates will probably raise the minimum wage, pushing minimum wage families into a higher tax bracket, while the most wealthly (like trump and clinton) report losses and get refunds out of the pockets of the poor who will be taxed to death. 

 

Not really much difference between the candidates themselves, both criminals, both likely high functioning sociopaths. The narrative that was put out to the public from the start, was that no matter how bad clinton is, trump is worse. Wikileaks has likely had no impact on the election, if anything it makes trump look even worse because the propaganda machine continues to push the "trump is worse" narrative. Julian Assange has a personal grudge against political criminals, but you can't target a single country and a single candidate and not face retaliation, regardless of what crimes the DNC has committed over the past year. Those in the US who support Democrats could watch a video of Hillary executing someone at point blank range and people would say its fake. Mark Twain once said "Its easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled." These forums have seen their fair share of fanboyism, US elections is just another fanboy/fangurl battle.

 

I certainly wouldn't vote for either of them, but luckily I don't have to. 

[Tech_Dreamer]

4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

The docs are forged. Intelligence experts who worked for the FBI have said so as well.

dont you mean "still investigating"?

[Michael McAllister]

1 minute ago, patrickjp93 said:

Libel is not an extraditable offense, and there's nothing that could be done. Assange is behind a bought and paid for political firewall just so Russia can poke at the U.S. and cover its own ass.

 

The docs are forged. Intelligence experts who worked for the FBI have said so as well.

 

Considering that you're a self-identified libertarian, it's extremely odd that you are so ready and willing to accept a simple "the FBI says" so it must be true approach.

 

If WikiLeaks is releasing forged documents, and knowingly so, that's obviously unacceptable to anyone that cares about the truth.  If the FBI has evidence that they are forged, why don't intelligence officials give us a link to WikiLeaks and the "real" documents to compare the two?  Surely, they want to quash misinformation, right?

 

I'm not saying that the FBI is never right or they're always nefarious.  What I am saying is that US intelligence agencies are not shy about lying here or there to do damage control.  I do not blindly accept their word on this because they could easily disprove this by showing their own documents.  I don't suspect they will do that, however.

[Sakkura]

2 hours ago, Notional said:

So the US government is actively silencing Assange, even when he is in another country? So insanely corrupt.

No. Wikileaks is lying.

 

Ecuador is not a country that does what the US says. Why do you think Assange is in the Ecuadorian embassy?