6700K or 6850K

[jimsterino]

I'm starting school (hopefully), and if i do, the plan is to make my pc. Since I am going into engineering (mechanical), i would be required to use AutoCAD, and Autodesk inventor, but I want a rig than can also game well. Which cpu should i get? i7-6700K or the i7-6850K? I'm pretty stuck here.

[Electronics Wizardy]

They will be about the same. 

 

Also id get a 6800k over a 6850k. You don't need the extra pcie lanes.

[DrM]

depends on your budget. for gaming, there wont be a noticable difference in fps. for rendering in inventor though, the more cores the better. 6800k will render ~40% faster (slightly lower clock speed), but the cost of the cpu and mobo is higher. it comes down to whether its worth it to you or not

[ttam]

The 6700k is within such a small margin that it's worth getting instead. This lets you throw that extra cash into maybe a better video card or better ssd which will also benefit you more.

[ttam]

3 minutes ago, DrM said:

depends on your budget. for gaming, there wont be a noticable difference in fps. for rendering in inventor though, the more cores the better. 6800k will render ~40% faster (slightly lower clock speed), but the cost of the cpu and mobo is higher. it comes down to whether its worth it to you or not

Far from true. We are talking a few seconds at most. 40% would be minutes.

[jimsterino]

8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

They will be about the same. 

 

Also id get a 6800k over a 6850k. You don't need the extra pcie lanes.

@@Electronics Wizardy what are pcie lanes I still don't understand. I've watched several videos but don't understand jack s***

[jimsterino]

4 minutes ago, ttam said:

The 6700k is within such a small margin that it's worth getting instead. This lets you throw that extra cash into maybe a better video card or better ssd which will also benefit you more.

well i mean I am already planning for the gtx 1080 superclocked edition. and i see i see, thanks. But i mean, come on, 6 cores, i get to shame my friends who all have quad cores lmaoo

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, jimsterino said:

@@Electronics Wizardy what are pcie lanes I still don't understand. I've watched several videos but don't understand jack s***

Its bascially how data comes and leaves the cpu. Most of the motherboard devices(usb, gpu, sata, network) use this.

 

The only difference between teh 6800k and the 6850k is the 6850k has more lanes, You don't need them. Id save the 200 and get a 6800k.

[Jumper118]

Get a 5820k it overclocks better than the 6800k and it's about the same price as the 6700k but with 2 more cores. 

[westonb27]

Wouldn't a majority of this decision depend on budget? I mean I use a 6700K for 3D rendering in C4D. It's not CAD i know but I would assume similar CPU usage. Gaming wise I would also say, financially at least, that the 6700K is the better option because the base prices of 1151 boards is lower than 2011-3 boards and the overall gaming performance between the 6800K and the 6700K is nearly identical give or take a few frames here and there. Personally I think @jimsterino would be more than fine with a 6700K for his build. Money saved can go to a nice NVMe SSD or a FTW 1080 over the SuperClocked. 

[jimsterino]

2 minutes ago, westonb27 said:

Wouldn't a majority of this decision depend on budget? I mean I use a 6700K for 3D rendering in C4D. It's not CAD i know but I would assume similar CPU usage. Gaming wise I would also say, financially at least, that the 6700K is the better option because the base prices of 1151 boards is lower than 2011-3 boards and the overall gaming performance between the 6800K and the 6700K is nearly identical give or take a few frames here and there. Personally I think @jimsterino would be more than fine with a 6700K for his build. Money saved can go to a nice NVMe SSD or a FTW 1080 over the SuperClocked. 

why the FTW 1080 over the superclocked?

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, westonb27 said:

Wouldn't a majority of this decision depend on budget? I mean I use a 6700K for 3D rendering in C4D. It's not CAD i know but I would assume similar CPU usage. Gaming wise I would also say, financially at least, that the 6700K is the better option because the base prices of 1151 boards is lower than 2011-3 boards and the overall gaming performance between the 6800K and the 6700K is nearly identical give or take a few frames here and there. Personally I think @jimsterino would be more than fine with a 6700K for his build. Money saved can go to a nice NVMe SSD or a FTW 1080 over the SuperClocked. 

1151 has no upgrade path from a 6700k. From a 5820k or 6800k you can go all the way to a 10 core i7 or 22 core xeon

[jimsterino]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

1151 has no upgrade path from a 6700k. From a 5820k or 6800k you can go all the way to a 10 core i7 or 22 core xeon

@Jumper118 actually it does have an upgrade path. Once KabyLake comes out, i can upgrade to that, although idk if i really need to. but there is that.

[westonb27]

1 minute ago, jimsterino said:

why the FTW 1080 over the superclocked?

EVGA has tiers for their GPUs. Superclocked is clocked lower than the FTW edition cards.

 

1 minute ago, jimsterino said:

@Jumper118 actually it does have an upgrade path. Once KabyLake comes out, i can upgrade to that, although idk if i really need to. but there is that.

You're right about that, and again. If your budget allows by all means go with the 2011-3 CPUs, but if you want power and need to save some cash then I would go for the 6700K.

[Enderman]

25 minutes ago, DrM said:

depends on your budget. for gaming, there wont be a noticable difference in fps. for rendering in inventor though, the more cores the better. 6800k will render ~40% faster (slightly lower clock speed), but the cost of the cpu and mobo is higher. it comes down to whether its worth it to you or not

 

14 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

Get a 5820k it overclocks better than the 6800k and it's about the same price as the 6700k but with 2 more cores. 

 

The 6800k is barely any better than a 6700k.

He is only doing this for school, not as a job, so extra money for x99 and a 6800k for a couple seconds or minutes is NOT worth it at all.

6700k is a much better option.

[jimsterino]

ok guys thanks for the help. I've come to the quick decision that im going to go for the 6700K. I made a build on pcpartpicker, here it is: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrwjZ8

 

let me know if any changes can be made (for the better). LOL

[Jumper118]

48 minutes ago, westonb27 said:

EVGA has tiers for their GPUs. Superclocked is clocked lower than the FTW edition cards.

 

You're right about that, and again. If your budget allows by all means go with the 2011-3 CPUs, but if you want power and need to save some cash then I would go for the 6700K.

 

51 minutes ago, jimsterino said:

@Jumper118 actually it does have an upgrade path. Once KabyLake comes out, i can upgrade to that, although idk if i really need to. but there is that.

That's not an upgrade path lol going from a quad core to a quad core that's 5% faster is not the same as going from 6 core to 22 cores. An x99 will last a lot longer

[westonb27]

17 hours ago, jimsterino said:

ok guys thanks for the help. I've come to the quick decision that im going to go for the 6700K. I made a build on pcpartpicker, here it is: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrwjZ8

 

let me know if any changes can be made (for the better). LOL

Looks alright to me. Though I'm not sure why you're getting an ITX board when you have a case that supports an ATX board.

[westonb27]

16 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

 

That's not an upgrade path lol going from a quad core to a quad core that's 5% faster is not the same as going from 6 core to 22 cores. An x99 will last a lot longer

While I don't disagree with you that x99 will last longer than z170, the point that this is a build for school, and really doesn't need the power of the x99 platform kinda overpowers the need for an upgrade path. Just as well the x99 upgrade path is quite expensive, even if you are saving money on a mobo and ram. So I think in this situation the 6700K is better for his intended use. 

[Dirkjr]

On ‎8‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 2:47 AM, jimsterino said:

well i mean I am already planning for the gtx 1080 superclocked edition. and i see i see, thanks. But i mean, come on, 6 cores, i get to shame my friends who all have quad cores lmaoo

or get the 6700K and shame them all with single threaded performance. In anything that makes use of at most 4 threads the 6700 will outrun the 6 8 and 10+ core CPUs. Plus with the money you save you could go bonkers and shame them with a Titan X

[jimsterino]

On 8/30/2016 at 5:29 PM, westonb27 said:

Looks alright to me. Though I'm not sure why you're getting an ITX board when you have a case that supports an ATX board.

i changed the mobo and all. ive been playing around with parts and all that for the past couple days.