Bottleneck?

[Snakkey]

Will the 6600k bottleneck the 1060?

[bgibbz]

No. 

[SageOfSpice]

Where bottles do not exist, necks cannot occur.

[PCGuy_5960]

No

Edited August 17, 2016 by PCGuy_5960

[ARikozuM]

We should probably open a topic or billboard to answer this once and for all...

[kappakali]

nope

it shouldn't bottleneck anything.

[Darkseth]

Depends on the Game, and Settings....

In 480x800~ it will of course bottleneck.

 

If you play in 1080p and high/max settings, you shouldn't have problems.

 

Even if anything Bottlenecks by a few %, who cares?

Just ask yourself: Do you have enough fps? If yes, everything is fine.

Just to have 3 fps more with an i7, would you honestly upgrade? i wouldn't.

[App4that]

1 hour ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

No, not even a 1080

Yes it would lol. 

 

But OP, a 1060 is fine

[ARikozuM]

4 hours ago, App4that said:

Yes it would lol. 

 

But OP, a 1060 is fine

1080 would not be bottlenecked by a 6600K in almost every instance that you throw at it.

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

1080 would not be bottlenecked by a 6600K in almost every instance that you throw at it.

Incorrect. Even Overwatch causes a bottle neck. 

[SLIClocker]

4 hours ago, App4that said:

Yes it would lol. 

 

But OP, a 1060 is fine

No it would not bottleneck a 1080!

[ARikozuM]

Just now, App4that said:

Incorrect. Even Overwatch causes a bottle neck. 

And Overwatch also causes issues with Red hardware. Not a bottleneck unless the CPU is at 100% and the GPU is <40%. Unless the games are coded to heavily utilize the CPU and under-utilize the GPU, it will not bottleneck.

[App4that]

Just now, SLIClocker said:

No it would not bottleneck a 1080!

So you do zero research, yet still post.

 

classic

 

Do some research and come back.

[App4that]

Here, latest benchmarks from Zen...

 

this should work

 

 

[App4that]

Maybe Overwatch?

 

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, App4that said:

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You're always taking the "more threads, less bottleneck" approach. Which is simply how computers work. It's why AMD's 8-core loses to many Intel quad-cores.

 

On the actual topic of the bottleneck, performance will not be degraded to the point that the CPU has halted an enjoyable gaming session. When you try high refresh rate gaming you are relying HEAVILY on the CPU not for gaming performance but for data to be sent to the GPU and back. 60Hz gaming is still the standard and unless you're getting below that mark it shouldn't be considered a bottleneck since returns can still be realized.

 

I recommend watching the whole series. Keep in mind he is using an ancient CPU for the first part. Watch until you get to the Doom 2016 benchmark.

 

The bigger argument we, as the PC gaming community, should be making is towards AMD and Intel for their respective parts in our gaming experiences.

[App4that]

@ARikozuM

 

This isn't about your opinion, or any feels. This is about facts. And a 6600k holds a 1080 back, it bottle necks it. If you want to discuss the severity of that bottle neck, that's a separate topic. But an incorrect comment was made, and I corrected it. 

 

It's been corrected, let it go. 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

15 hours ago, App4that said:

Yes it would lol. 

 

But OP, a 1060 is fine

Depends.... If you are running at 4K then the i5 wouldn't bottleneck the 1080.... (Everyone knows that an i5 becomes a bottleneck at 1080p when paired with a 1080 )

[App4that]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Depends.... If you are running at 4K then the i5 wouldn't bottleneck the 1080.... (Everyone knows that an i5 becomes a bottleneck at 1080p when paired with a 1080 )

&%$@! %$#@##$#@$! 

 

Gawd, if I never see this misconception again it will be too soon...

 

Please. Please listen to me.

 

Resolution WILL NOT increase fps. Do you understand? If you have 20fps at 1080p, you'll have 20fps at 4k. That's actually how you can tell you have a bottleneck without knowing the CPU load. 

 

OI

[PCGuy_5960]

On 8/13/2016 at 11:41 AM, App4that said:

&%$@! %$#@##$#@$! 

 

Gawd, if I never see this misconception again it will be too soon...

 

Please. Please listen to me.

 

Resolution WILL NOT increase fps. Do you understand? If you have 20fps at 1080p, you'll have 20fps at 4k. That's actually how you can tell you have a bottleneck without knowing the CPU load. 

 

OI

What the fuck are you talking about? What I said was that you get most or all the FPS that a 1080 can deliver AT 4K.... (Around 30-50 depending on the game) And an i5 would not be a bottleneck as the GPU would be much more stressed than the CPU) Obviously, a 1080 would deliver much, much higher FPS at 1080p...

 

OF COURSE WHEN A GAMES RUNS AT 4 TIMES THE PIXELS OF 1080p IT WOULDN'T HAVE BETTER FPS

 

And FYI, if you have 20fps at 1080p you will have around 5 at 4K...

Edited August 13, 2016 by PCGuy_5960

[App4that]

On 8/13/2016 at 11:49 AM, PCGuy_5960 said:

What the fuck are you talking about? What I said was that you get most or all the FPS that a 1080 can deliver AT 4K.... (Around 30-50 depending on the game) And an i5 would not be a bottleneck as the GPU would be much more stressed than the GPU) Obviously, a 1080 would deliver much, much higher FPS at 1080p...

 

OF COURSE WHEN A GAMES RUNS AT 4 TIMES THE PIXELS OF 1080p IT WOULDN'T HAVE BETTER FPS

That's best case. What happens when the 6600k is at 20fps? Because i5? 

 

You're stuck at 20fps...

 

On 8/13/2016 at 11:50 AM, PCGuy_5960 said:

And FYI, if you have 20fps at 1080p you will have around 5 at 4K...

You didn't listen...

 

When you have a bottleneck the GPU is being held back. So you get 20fps at 1080p, and 20fps at 4k. 

 

Why?

 

Because at 4k the CPU has less of an impact on performance, so the GPU is able to do more work. So you see the maximum fps the CPU can deliver through the entire range of the GPUs ability to create those frames...

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

That's best case. What happens when the 6600k is at 20fps? Because i5? 

 

You're stuck at 20fps...

20fps? Where did you find that? Link me to the website or video that PROVES, not claims, PROVES, with benchmarks, that a 6600K overclocked is a bottleneck at 4K...

[App4that]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

20fps? Where did you find that? Link me to the website or video that PROVES, not claims, PROVES, with benchmarks, that a 6600K overclocked is a bottleneck at 4K...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

 

You look at the minimum, not the average. A i7 helps with your minimum fps. 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

You didn't listen...

 

When you have a bottleneck the GPU is being held back. So you get 20fps at 1080p, and 20fps at 4k. 

 

Why?

 

Because at 4k the CPU has less of an impact on performance, so the GPU is able to do more work. So you see the maximum fps the CPU can deliver through the entire range of the GPUs ability to create those frames...

If you pair a 1080 with a Pentium D, you will get 20fps at 1080p.... At 4K, the CPU has to do less work compares to the GPU, so it is MORE difficult for a CPU to be a bottleneck.... At 1080p, the Cpu has much more work to do compared to the GPU.... 

[App4that]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

If you pair a 1080 with a Pentium D, you will get 20fps at 1080p.... At 4K, the CPU has to do less work compares to the GPU, so it is MORE difficult for a CPU to be a bottleneck.... At 1080p, the Cpu has much more work to do compared to the GPU.... 

NO!!!!

 

The CPU has the same work load. Dude...