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AMD R9 380 or Nvidia GTX 770

Hi , first sorry for making a whole topic just about this ,

I wan't to buy a gaming pc and found that i really liked , both have  i5 4460 but one have a gtx 770 2gb  and the other have r9 380 4gb ,

i'am wondering what is the better choice

fyi pc's are really expensive in my contry and an rx 480 8gb  cost 330 $   

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5 minutes ago, Otmane Hanine said:

Hi , first sorry for making a whole topic just about this ,

I wan't to buy a gaming pc and found that i really liked , both have  i5 4460 but one have a gtx 770 2gb  and the other have r9 380 4gb ,

i'am wondering what is the better choice

fyi pc's are really expensive in my contry and an rx 480 8gb  cost 330 $   

How much does the 770 cost?

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7 minutes ago, Otmane Hanine said:

Hi , first sorry for making a whole topic just about this ,

I wan't to buy a gaming pc and found that i really liked , both have  i5 4460 but one have a gtx 770 2gb  and the other have r9 380 4gb ,

i'am wondering what is the better choice

fyi pc's are really expensive in my contry and an rx 480 8gb  cost 330 $   

380 and 770 are similar BUT - 2GB is NOT enough for 1080p anymore. Also, under DX12/Vulkan the 380 crushes the 770

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4 minutes ago, Dresta said:

How much does the 770 cost?

gtx 770 cost 180 $  r9 380 270 $ 

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2 minutes ago, Otmane Hanine said:

gtx 770 cost 180 $  r9 380 270 $ 

Well. If you are satisfied with low settings cause of VRAM and poor DX12/Vulkan performance in the future then 770

If you want higher settings and better longevity -380

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2 minutes ago, Otmane Hanine said:

gtx 770 cost 180 $  r9 380 270 $ 

as @don_svetlio said the 380 will crush the 770 in DX12 and Vulkan but still Vulkan is not supported that much as its fairly new but when it is it would crush the 770 + the 2gb of VRAM you could live with it but it would be on the bleeding edge

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2 minutes ago, Otmane Hanine said:

thanks for you both so r9 380 it is , if i save a bit more i might go with rx 480 wich cost 330 $ 

480 is a huge step up.the RX 480 beats a 380/770 by 50%

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3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

480 is a huge step up.the RX 480 beats a 380/770 by 50%

50%??? Where did you get that? if a 380 beats a 960 and a 480 is a 970 how is the difference 50%?

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1 minute ago, Dresta said:

50%??? Where did you get that? if a 380 beats a 960 and a 480 is a 970 how is the difference 50%?

The difference between a 970 and 960 is quite large honestly.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960/2577vs3165

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

The difference between a 970 and 960 is quite large honestly.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960/2577vs3165

Ok,Nvidia fucked up when they made the 970 OCed to be able to come close or be the exact same as a 980!

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1 minute ago, Dresta said:

Ok,Nvidia fucked up when they made the 970 OCed to be able to come close or be the exact same as a 980!

Not really - they fucked up with the 960 being such a massive disappointment.

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18 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Not really - they fucked up with the 960 being such a massive disappointment.

Well we can all hope the 1060 brings something to the table

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1 minute ago, Dresta said:

Well we can all hope the 1060 brings something to the table

I doubt it will be able to catch up under DX12/Vulkan and that's what is important at the moment as those APIs are the future.

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2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I doubt it will be able to catch up under DX12/Vulkan and that's what is important at the moment as those APIs are the future.

It will not,but it will take some time for games to start using Vulkan commonly as OpenGL,for me Vulkan is nothing special honestly...i mean we all know something new would come out to blow out the old gen out the water....after Vulkan there will be something that may benefit Nvidia more,but we dont even know if Nvidia will still be a company or will there be more GPU companies...

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I'd say you'll get a better value with the 770.  If you plan on upgrading in a couple of years or even less, definitely go that way.  I think the benefit of new APIs like DX12 and Vulkan are going to take some time to kick in and by then, you'll be read for another card.

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As someone who used a 770 until just a few days ago, I can say that I would rather have the 770 and the $90 towards a new gpu upgrade in the future.  Just keep the $90 in an envelope, add $50 a month, and in six months you can buy a 1070 or 490.  I think it's a much better value.  A 770 is a little faster than a 960 (trades blows, wins more than it loses), and a 960 is a little slower than a 380, so they should be really close on performance, trading blows depending on the game. They are both really capable gpus, so you'll be happy either way, but I think for similar performance I would go with the cheaper option and upgrade sooner. How much is the 480 4gb, btw?

 

1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

380 and 770 are similar BUT - 2GB is NOT enough for 1080p anymore. Also, under DX12/Vulkan the 380 crushes the 770

I really didn't find any problems at 1080p.  GTA V would use 2.5gb on all very high settings, but if you ignore suggested limits you don't really run into any stuttering.  Sure, some games will go over that, but I never had an issue.  

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