Help with DDR4/i5/RX 480 build

[asand1]

I'm going to help my friend build a new computer. We have decided on DDR4 and an RX 480, beyond that there is no real plan. He plays World of Tanks, surfs the Internet, and might get back into WoW. Budget is $600-$800 i think. He wants to go SSD only (~250Gb). Quad Core 3.5Ghz preferably. i5 should be plenty for what he does and still be a bit future proof. Mainly I'm looking for mobo/CPU recommendations. He will not be overclocking BTW.

[Memories4K]

I mean if all he plays is WoW and world of tanks, he doesn't even need an RX480.

[asand1]

He is a little jelly of my 114 FPS coming from my GTX 960 OC edition and I explained to him that the best bang for the buck is in the $200 range, and it doesn't get any more bang for the buck than the RX480. If he had a better system I think he would play better games. 

[Memories4K]

Give me a sec to whip up a partslist i'd recommend

[Shimejii]

First of all, Drop the notion of getting back into WOW. Its not going to be any different then Warlords was, Youd be better off with another game!

 

Second You probably could do a i5 6400 or 6500 build, with a decent amount of space for a SSD and gpu.

[Shimejii]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($157.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($91.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($278.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $809.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-30 01:35 EDT-0400

[Memories4K]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/22g4Cy

 

I assume you'll want a case and power supply.

[asand1]

18 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($157.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($91.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($278.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $809.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-30 01:35 EDT-0400

More Mobo than he wants or needs. No need of SLI (especially with an AMD/ATI card), 2 Ram slots would be plenty, no need for more than 8GB for now, and don't need overclockablitiy. 

[dizmo]

21 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($157.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($91.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($278.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $809.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-30 01:35 EDT-0400

Wow. Much overkill on the motherboard. I wouldn't get the Nvidia card. RX 480 is the same performance at $40 less.

5 minutes ago, asand1 said:

More Mobo than he wants or needs. No need of SLI (especially with an AMD/ATI card), 2 Ram slots would be plenty, no need for more than 8GB for now, and don't need overclockablitiy. 

Mmmm...I'd say 16GB. I go over 8GB just with tabs. Plus RAM is cheap.

[dizmo]

I'd go for a larger SSD. 240GB runs out a lot quicker than you'd think.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-E ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB XXX OC  Video Card  ($249.00)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $882.83

 

It's a little over, but I think it'd be worth waiting and getting a card that's not Reference.

[asand1]

34 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/22g4Cy

 

I assume you'll want a case and power supply.

Yes we will need a case and PSU. I lower price of the MOBO you suggested. I would check Newegg for a non Crossfire board with two ram slots, but the website is not responding, probably all the RX 480 traffic.

27 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Wow. Much overkill on the motherboard. I wouldn't get the Nvidia card. RX 480 is the same performance at $40 less.

Mmmm...I'd say 16GB. I go over 8GB just with tabs. Plus RAM is cheap.

Didn't notice the GTX card. Yeah, why pay so much for a 970 when the 480 is jsut as good for less? I think I'll take your advice on the 16 VS 8Gb RAM.

 

Would something like this perform well enough with an i5 6500/6400 and 4x4Gb RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130906

 

I really don't want to get more Mobo than he needs, and SLI/Crossfire is just too much.

[ConiferousJelly]

3 minutes ago, asand1 said:

Yes we will need a case and PSU. I lower price of the MOBO you suggested. I would check Newegg for a non Crossfire board with two ram slots, but the website is not responding, probably all the RX 480 traffic.

Didn't notice the GTX card. Yeah, why pay so much for a 970 when the 480 is jsut as good for less? I think I'll take your advice on the 16 VS 8Gb RAM.

 

Would something like this perform well enough with an i5 6500/6400 and 4x4Gb RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130906

 

I really don't want to get more Mobo than he needs, and SLI/Crossfire is just too much.

While the Asus Z170-E board offers crossfire and SLI, you dont need to use it is the beauty of it. That is a solid mobo on the Z170 chipset and offers expansion to a i7-6700k if he decided he needed it, and lets him overclock. Also, if he decides he wants to play more graphically intense games he will be able to throw another RX 480 in for GTX 1070 like performance

[stconquest]

1 hour ago, asand1 said:

I'm going to help my friend build a new computer. We have decided on DDR4 and an RX 480, beyond that there is no real plan. He plays World of Tanks, surfs the Internet, and might get back into WoW. Budget is $600-$800 i think. He wants to go SSD only (~250Gb). Quad Core 3.5Ghz preferably. i5 should be plenty for what he does and still be a bit future proof. Mainly I'm looking for mobo/CPU recommendations. He will not be overclocking BTW.

If you are smart, you will not buy the GTX 970.  If you are smart, you will not buy the reference RX 480.  Wait a bit longer for the aftermarket RX 480s.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz) <<Quiet cooling
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg)  <<Will downclock to 2133MHz
Storage: Patriot Torch LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) <<MLC Flash, holds it's speed better than TLC over time
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg)  <<$65 and so damn nice
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM  140mm Fan  ($8.49 @ NCIX US)  <<front intake
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM  140mm Fan  ($8.49 @ NCIX US)  <<front intake
Total: $513.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-30 02:42 EDT-0400

[asand1]

I looked over everyones suggestions and came up with this myself, tell me what you think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqsBPs

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, stconquest said:

If you are smart, you will not buy the GTX 970.  If you are smart, you will not buy the reference RX 480.  Wait a bit longer for the aftermarket RX 480s.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz) <<Quiet cooling
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg)  <<Will downclock to 2133MHz
Storage: Patriot Torch LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) <<MLC Flash, holds it's speed better than TLC over time
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg)  <<$65 and so damn nice
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM  140mm Fan  ($8.49 @ NCIX US)  <<front intake
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM  140mm Fan  ($8.49 @ NCIX US)  <<front intake
Total: $513.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-30 02:42 EDT-0400

I'd go with a variation of this, except I'd get a larger SSD, and skip the fans.

[stconquest]

4 minutes ago, asand1 said:

I looked over everyones suggestions and came up with this myself, tell me what you think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqsBPs

The EVGA B2 sells for $65 on Amazon.

 

The Hyper 212 EVO is loud and big.  Not needed.

 

You don't need a $110 motherboard.

 

You are at $855.

[ConiferousJelly]

2 minutes ago, asand1 said:

I looked over everyones suggestions and came up with this myself, tell me what you think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqsBPs

Dude, the Asus Z170-E mobo is cheaper than the H170 mobo, by 5 bucks without MIR, and like 25 with MIR. Also you might wanna try the Cryorig H7 cooler, it is said to perform and look better than the 212-EVO

[stconquest]

4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'd go with a variation of this, except I'd get a larger SSD, and skip the fans.

Blasphemy! 

 

...skip the fans... really now. 

[asand1]

How about this then?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NM8sJV

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, asand1 said:

How about this then?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NM8sJV

Tell me:  What are you getting for all that extra money on the motherboard?

[asand1]

5 minutes ago, ConiferousJelly said:

Dude, the Asus Z170-E mobo is cheaper than the H170 mobo, by 5 bucks without MIR, and like 25 with MIR. Also you might wanna try the Cryorig H7 cooler, it is said to perform and look better than the 212-EVO

I have an H7 on my own rig, I don't like the plastic backplate, otherwise its awesome. The 212 is also cheaper.

[ConiferousJelly]

2 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Tell me:  What are you getting for all that extra money on the motherboard?

He wanted to go cheap on a mobo but not too cheap I Think. He had a $110 H170 mobo so i told him to go with the Z170 mobo for 5bucks less because in the future it can accommodate unlocked CPUs and overclock and/or crossfire for the RX 480

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, ConiferousJelly said:

He wanted to go cheap on a mobo but not too cheap I Think. He had a $110 H170 mobo so i told him to go with the Z170 mobo for 5bucks less because in the future it can accommodate unlocked CPUs and overclock and/or crossfire for the RX 480

$65:  http://pcpartpicker.com/product/s27CmG/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3hgsm

 

Again, why spend more?

[asand1]

3 minutes ago, stconquest said:

$65:  http://pcpartpicker.com/product/s27CmG/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3hgsm

 

Again, why spend more?

TBH I was looking at these on newegg.

[ConiferousJelly]

3 minutes ago, stconquest said:

$65:  http://pcpartpicker.com/product/s27CmG/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3hgsm

 

Again, why spend more?

Valid point, no reason too. However it is MicroATX and he may want an ATX mobo for an ATX case, unless he wants to do small form factor. Really up to him and his buddy.