NEC or Nah?

[IrisSnapper]

Okay techs I need your help, I have been banging my head for a few weeks wondering two things. 

 

a) Why, of the following two monitors, is the smaller one more expensive? When the larger one has a larger range of colors displayable, better color coverage, and better IPS Panel. 

27" 4K UHD sRGB Desktop Monitor with SpectraViewII Color Calibration

24" LED Backlit IPS Professional Desktop Monitor with SpectraView II

B) Are NEC's still worth it, with the color accuracy they have give'n that we have 144HZ monitors today? 

If any one has good easy to read info or better recommendation that are 27 inch or bigger, great color accuracy, full control over brightness, color, and contrast, and is compatible with the Spyder 5. I am all ears 

 

Thank you for your time. 

[Enderman]

what kind of medical professional work are you doing that requires a $1000 professional display???

 

and just click on the 'technologies' tab to see why the smaller one is more expensive

[IrisSnapper]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

what kind of medical professional work are you doing that requires a $1000 professional display???

 

and just click on the 'technologies' tab to see why the smaller one is more expensive

Not doing medical work, I do professional photography and currently working on a Dell U2410, with a colormunki and an R3000 printer and my prints are good but not perfect. The Dell u2410 doesn't allow full control for calibration. Talking around the photo and art community most of my colleges are either using a MAC display or NEC's. I don't want a MAC display because it doesn't allow full control. 

Thank you for the technology tip. I did do that and nothing seems to be different as far as color is concerned. Hence why I am leaning to the 27"

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, IrisSnapper said:

Not doing medical work, I do professional photography and currently working on a Dell U2410, with a colormunki and an R3000 printer and my prints are good but not perfect. The Dell u2410 doesn't allow full control for calibration. Talking around the photo and art community most of my colleges are either using a MAC display or NEC's. I don't want a MAC display because it doesn't allow full control. 

Thank you for the technology tip. I did do that and nothing seems to be different as far as color is concerned. Hence why I am leaning to the 27"

The big question is how much does color matter? If you care about color buy dell ultra sharp. If you really care then NEC or ezio.

 

Are you running 10bit color?

[IrisSnapper]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

The big question is how much does color matter? If you care about color buy dell ultra sharp. If you really care then NEC or ezio.

 

Are you running 10bit color?

Color matters to the point where it is almost 100%. I mean I want my images on print to be exact on screen. 

 

What do you mean 10 bit? I usually use 24 bit and 16 bit mode on Photoshop.

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, IrisSnapper said:

Not doing medical work, I do professional photography and currently working on a Dell U2410, with a colormunki and an R3000 printer and my prints are good but not perfect. The Dell u2410 doesn't allow full control for calibration. Talking around the photo and art community most of my colleges are either using a MAC display or NEC's. I don't want a MAC display because it doesn't allow full control. 

Thank you for the technology tip. I did do that and nothing seems to be different as far as color is concerned. Hence why I am leaning to the 27"

do you even have a graphics card that supports a 10 bit display?

 

because you can definitely get a good proart monitor from asus or something with a great IPS panel

then buy a professional colour calibrator like linus has, and just calibrate it

no need for a nec display

[IrisSnapper]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

do you even have a graphics card that supports a 10 bit display?

 

because you can definitely get a good proart monitor from asus or something with a great IPS panel

then buy a professional colour calibrator like linus has, and just calibrate it

no need for a nec display

Yeah I do have a card that supports 10 bit. Almost every one should. Nvidia has offered 10 bit for a while now. http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus

I even just checked my GPU settings and it does have a 10BPC option. 

If you read my above post I didn't know what 10 bit meant just because I was used to calling it 30 bit.

But yeah I have them 

The reason I am not looking at like an ASUS is because I need that full 100+ step control for brightness and contrast and most  monitors don't have that paired the color range and accuracy such as NEC does and is compatible with the color spectrometers on the market today. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

6 minutes ago, IrisSnapper said:

Color matters to the point where it is almost 100%. I mean I want my images on print to be exact on screen. 

 

What do you mean 10 bit? I usually use 24 bit and 16 bit mode on Photoshop.

10 bit monitors show 1024 colors per channel instead of 8bit or 256 colors. The 8, 16,32 bit in photo shop is how much color is in the image, the 10 is how much the monitor shows. In order to use this you need a quadro(any will work, and you can switch inputs if you also game, Id buy a cheap k420), windows 7 basic theme and a supported monitor over displayport.

 

Id go highend dell ultrasharp or nec or eizo.

 

Whats your budget.

[IrisSnapper]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

10 bit monitors show 1024 colors per channel instead of 8bit or 256 colors. The 8, 16,32 bit in photo shop is how much color is in the image, the 10 is how much the monitor shows. In order to use this you need a quadro(any will work, and you can switch inputs if you also game, Id buy a cheap k420), windows 7 basic theme and a supported monitor over displayport.

 

Id go highend dell ultrasharp or nec or eizo.

 

Whats your budget.

Yeah i had to look it up as 10 bits per channel means 30 bits. I had always used the 30 bit lingo. Also you don't need a quadro has Nvidia says here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus

they have been offering the 10bpc option for along time now. You just have to do that in the Nvida control panel and turn off Nvida's ICC profile to use your own created ICC profile. But yeah I have a GTX 760 set to 10BPC not 8BPC

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, IrisSnapper said:

Yeah I do have a card that supports 10 bit. Almost every one should. Nvidia has offered 10 bit for a while now. http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus

I even just checked my GPU settings and it does have a 10BPC option. 

If you read my above post I didn't know what 10 bit meant just because I was used to calling it 30 bit.

But yeah I have them 

The reason I am not looking at like an ASUS is because I need that full 100+ step control for brightness and contrast and most  monitors don't have that paired the color range and accuracy such as NEC does and is compatible with the color spectrometers on the market today. 

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Due to the way most applications use traditional Windows API functions to create the application UI and viewport display, this method is not used for professional applications such as Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop.  These programs use OpenGL 10-bit per color buffers which require an NVIDIA Quadro GPU with DisplayPort connector.

no

you need a quadro

[IrisSnapper]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

no

you need a quadro

Yeah, the article was written in 2011 Adobe as sense unlocked that function here: http://petapixel.com/2015/12/04/adobe-quietly-added-10-bit-color-to-photoshop-cc-heres-how-to-enable-it/

Also the point of 30 bit is moot because their is no printer on the market that can print using 30 bit color. It's a matter of getting the print as close to the monitor as possible. The advantage of the NEC is it has more colors then the printer rather then less as I am currently using.