Pentium G3258 vs AMD FX 6300

[n00bmlg]

Would it be worth it to save the money from the pentium, or should I just go ahead and get the 6300?

 

Note, I would use it for gaming

[SLAYR]

1 minute ago, n00bmlg said:

Would it be worth it to save the money from the pentium, or should I just go ahead and get the 6300?

 

Note, I would use it for gaming

The g3258 will have better singlethreaded performance, but it will stutter/not work in newer AAA tittles. I would suggest getting at least an i3.

[n00bmlg]

3 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

The g3258 will have better singlethreaded performance, but it will stutter/not work in newer AAA tittles. I would suggest getting at least an i3.

I only play games at 720p, would the G3258 be good enough for that?

[Morgan MLGman]

FX-6300 is much, much better. If the same price. Dual cores have no place in a 2016 gaming build.

[n00bmlg]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

FX-6300 is much, much better. If the same price.

Not the same price, the G3258 is over $40 less, should I just save up and get the 6300 or just go ahead and get the G3258?

[Energycore]

8 minutes ago, n00bmlg said:

Would it be worth it to save the money from the pentium, or should I just go ahead and get the 6300?

 

Note, I would use it for gaming

Take the 6300. Some games literally don't work on a 2 core. (Shadow of Mordor flat out refuses to open, GTA V tanks performance hard)

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, n00bmlg said:

Not the same price, the G3258 is over $40 less, should I just save up and get the 6300 or just go ahead and get the G3258?

Still, the Pentium is pretty much an overclocking toy. I suggest at least an Athlon X4 860K.

[n00bmlg]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Still, the Pentium is pretty much an overclocking toy. I suggest at least an Athlon X4 860K.

I also heard that you can't OC the pentium as much now

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, n00bmlg said:

I also heard that you can't OC the pentium as much now

Doesn't matter, dual cores stutter and don't run some games at all, or run some only with a workaround, not worth the hassle. X4 860K is better and around the same budget, and also can be overclocked. It's a true quad core, so no worries there.

 

But if you can save more money, an i3-6100 or an FX-6300/6350 are much better (the choice here depends on the games you play, if they're AAA titles, then the overclocked 6300 will outperform the pentium, if you play older games, or lots of MMORPG games, then the i3 should be better due to better single-threaded performance)

[Nena Trinity]

8 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

FX-6300 is much, much better. If the same price. Dual cores have no place in a 2016 gaming build.

This! Also you can also use the FX-6300 for work and multi-tasking...

[Morgan MLGman]

18 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

This! Also you can also use the FX-6300 for work and multi-tasking...

Curious about your signature, why is your 8370 cinebench score so low? My old FX-8350 @4,5 gHz scored 710 in multithreaded test

[Nena Trinity]

27 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Curious about your signature, why is your 8370 cinebench score so low? My old FX-8350 @4,5 gHz scored 710 in multithreaded test

Dunno it is always going to near i7-3770 level and never past it, but I guess I should try OCing other things than just its turbo frequency. Most says changing the multiplier is better but I have never tried it at all!

[Morgan MLGman]

6 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Dunno it is always going to near i7-3770 level and never past it, but I guess I should try OCing other things than just its turbo frequency. Most says changing the multiplier is better but I have never tried it at all!

Yeah, it's best to turn off the turbo completely and lock it on a desired frequency with desired voltage. I had it at 4,5gHz all the time with voltage at 1.36V and it never went past 50 degrees Celsius with my cooler. If you need any help with OCing, you can let me know

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yeah, it's best to turn off the turbo completely and lock it on a desired frequency with desired voltage. I had it at 4,5gHz all the time with voltage at 1.36V and it never went past 50 degrees Celsius with my cooler. If you need any help with OCing, you can let me know

I had to do exactly that to make my damn 880K stay at 4.2GHz tough... o3o (sadly the board FM2+ board wont let me pick voltage and anything higher it bump voltage up which I personally do not want! (I like max performance stock voltage)

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, n00bmlg said:

I only play games at 720p, would the G3258 be good enough for that?

The lower you go on resolution, the more important the cpu becomes relative to the gpu. Don't skimp on cpu at 720p. The FX-6300 will murder the Pentium G3258 in AAA games. The dual core era ended years ago. I have a Pentium G3258 (in my HTPC) and it is completely incapable of 60 fps AAA gaming even when I take it to 4.4 GHz.

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

Take the 6300. Some games literally don't work on a 2 core. (Shadow of Mordor flat out refuses to open, GTA V tanks performance hard)

You're thinking of Far Cry 4 not working, Shadow of Mordor ran on my G3258 (though pretty badly). But Far Cry 4 you're stuck on a black screen when you launch on a G3258 because one of the threads of the game is hardcoded to run on the third core. And yeah, GTA V is unbelievably bad on a dual core with no hyperthreading. It's much worse than playing on an XBox 360.

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

You're thinking of Far Cry 4 not working, Shadow of Mordor ran on my G3258 (though pretty badly). But Far Cry 4 you're stuck on a black screen when you launch on a G3258 because one of the threads of the game is hardcoded to run on the third core.

Ah gotcha. I was sure it was MESOM. It still tanks performance though, and that's why I keep recommending a quad core for entry level gaming. At least an Athlon 845.

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, n00bmlg said:

Not the same price, the G3258 is over $40 less, should I just save up and get the 6300 or just go ahead and get the G3258?

What's the entire build you're looking at? I wouldn't throw a lot of money at a gpu for 720p, and certainly wouldn't even think about an SSD in such a budget build.

[SteveGrabowski0]

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Ah gotcha. I was sure it was MESOM. It still tanks performance though, and that's why I keep recommending a quad core for entry level gaming. At least an Athlon 845.

Yeah the performance is terrible. When I'd run Shadow of Mordor on my 4.4 GHz G3258 I'd get the framerate constantly oscillating between 45 fps and 100 fps with very low gpu usage on my GTX 970. Such an unstable framerate feels horrible, I'd actually rather cap at 30 fps than play like that.

[SteveGrabowski0]

But even capping at 30 fps isn't enough to get a steady framerate on a true dual core (eg Pentium) in GTA V in my experience while simulating one with my Xeon E3-1231v3 by disabling two cores and HT. But simulating an i3 by disabling two cores but leaving HT on for my E3-1231v3 gave a great gaming experience on GTA V. With my GTX 970 I'd only be able to tell the difference between an i3 and my E3-1231v3 in a couple of parts of Los Santos around all the skyscrapers, where my framerate would drop into the mid 50s on the simulated i3 but stay about 60 fps on the full E3-1231v3.

[Nena Trinity]

On 21.6.2016 at 1:21 AM, SteveGrabowski0 said:

But even capping at 30 fps isn't enough to get a steady framerate on a true dual core (eg Pentium) in GTA V in my experience while simulating one with my Xeon E3-1231v3 by disabling two cores and HT. But simulating an i3 by disabling two cores but leaving HT on for my E3-1231v3 gave a great gaming experience on GTA V. With my GTX 970 I'd only be able to tell the difference between an i3 and my E3-1231v3 in a couple of parts of Los Santos around all the skyscrapers, where my framerate would drop into the mid 50s on the simulated i3 but stay about 60 fps on the full E3-1231v3.

I think when it comes to GTA V no CPU is overkill! (FX-8370, Xeon E3 or best of all a 4th gen or 6th gen i7!)

[aisle9]

6300. The G3258, like all dual core CPUs, really isn't a gaming option at this point. It's a fun toy to overclock to hell and back, but even my wife is about to swap her 3258 for the i3-4150 in our HTPC. Now that she's into AAA games, the Pentium no longer cuts it. 

[skatblast]

I dont know how people can recommend such a dead chipset. Get a g3258 and when you get the money in a few years get a 4790k or something. Upgrade path is worlds better than with AMD. Why are people still buying these old ass processors

[i_build_nanosuits]

G3258 garbage for gaming, FX-6300 a lot better...i5-4460 even better...i5-6400/6500 is where you really want to be.

Hope this help!

[typographie]

Depends on the games. If you're mostly playing LoL, Dota 2, World of Warcraft, Starcraft II, etc., the G3258 is a much better choice. But the FX-6300 will be a bit more consistent in newer games. I'd rather recommend an i3 over either one, though.