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1600mhz dream

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I like overclocking, a lot. It doesn't really mean anything in real world performance but I am addicted to it. I spent 9 hours yesterday fine tuning my GTX 980ti squeezing everything I could out of it. Sadly I am at 1574mhz and I want to hit 1600mhz. Do you think installing an AIO or waterblock would allow me to reach my goal? It is the Zotac Amp Extreme so I don't know how the availability will be.

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9 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I like overclocking, a lot. It doesn't really mean anything in real world performance but I am addicted to it. I spent 9 hours yesterday fine tuning my GTX 980ti squeezing everything I could out of it. Sadly I am at 1574mhz and I want to hit 1600mhz. Do you think installing an AIO or waterblock would allow me to reach my goal? It is the Zotac Amp Extreme so I don't know how the availability will be.

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Unless it was clocking down because of temps, which is unlikely, it will more than likely just be the card's limit.

 

The only reason I got an extra 70mhz after moving to a waterblock on my 780ti was because I flashed a custom vbios that allowed for extra volts, which could have been done on the stock cooler as well.

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Unless it was clocking down because of temps, which is unlikely, it will more than likely just be the card's limit.

 

The only reason I got an extra 70mhz after moving to a waterblock on my 780ti was because I flashed a custom vbios that allowed for extra volts, which could have been done on the stock cooler as well.

No it is staying at a cool 67C

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

No it is staying at a cool 67C

Tried custom vbios' that allow for extra volts? sometimes the stock vbios wont even let the card reach the nvidia limit of 1.212v, which was what happened to my card, until I flashed a custom vbios.

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4 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Tried custom vbios' that allow for extra volts? sometimes the stock vbios wont even let the card reach the nvidia limit of 1.212v, which was what happened to my card, until I flashed a custom vbios.

That is the one thing I am iffy about. With the stock BIOS I can't kill the card, with that I guess if I am not stupid I could maybe get it.

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What makes me intrigued is the card at 1600mhz will start the benchmark play it for 10 seconds flicker then fail, so it isn't an instant fail.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

That is the one thing I am iffy about. With the stock BIOS I can't kill the card, with that I guess if I am not stupid I could maybe get it.

Yeah, there is  a inherent risk that comes with vbios modding, however in most cases the only way you would kill the card is due to an improper flash. If you get a vbios that just lets the card reach nvidia's limit of 1.212v, then it wont do any harm to your card. Especially with stock, or close to stock pcb designs, there are hard limits on voltages before they get to a point of damaging anything, and this can't be circumvented by even a custom vbios. Just getting closer to that limit will allow for greater frequencies, and thats all overclocking is about.

 

If the card isnt reaching 1.212v right now, then you could easily and safely flash a custom vbios that just ups the volts to the nvidia limit, letting you reach that 1600mhz mark.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

What makes me intrigued is the card at 1600mhz will start the benchmark play it for 10 seconds flicker then fail, so it isn't an instant fail.

in gpuz what is the perfcap reason? it should give you a good reason to what is the limiting factor to the clocks, be it tdp, or voltages.

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1 minute ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

in gpuz what is the perfcap reason? it should give you a good reason to what is the limiting factor to the clocks, be it tdp, or voltages.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

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Thats to do with voltages... I'm guessing you have maxed the sliders in msi afterburner. In gpu-z whats the voltage at?

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2 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Thats to do with voltages... I'm guessing you have maxed the sliders in msi afterburner. In gpu-z whats the voltage at?

I am using precision X and it was at 31mv+ and it can go all the way to 87mv+

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3 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Thats to do with voltages... I'm guessing you have maxed the sliders in msi afterburner. In gpu-z whats the voltage at?

When I max the slider it is at 1.2370 that is as far as it will go. Still stable though

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

I am using precision X and it was at 31mv+ and it can go all the way to 87mv+

Has upping it all the way helped with the overclocks? Because of the aforementioned hard limits on the voltages after a certain point, you are pretty safe fiddling around with the sliders without worrying about damaging the card.

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2 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Has upping it all the way helped with the overclocks? Because of the aforementioned hard limits on the voltages after a certain point, you are pretty safe fiddling around with the sliders without worrying about damaging the card.

It likes it 31mv+ and above and anything below 87mv+. 87+ works fine but it is sometimes more stable at say 61mv+

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

It likes it 31mv+ and above and anything below 87mv+. 87+ works fine but it is sometimes more stable at say 61mv+

Thats weird thats its more stable at +61mv... I'm guessing none of those voltages allowed for 1600mhz...

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9 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Thats weird thats its more stable at +61mv... I'm guessing none of those voltages allowed for 1600mhz...

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

nope

Not sure what else you could do since you are already above the nvidia limit of 1.212v, and getting a custom vbios for anything over that is getting into dangerous waters... it would likely get you into 1600mhz, but at the cost of potentially recking the gpu, and increasing heat output.

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11 minutes ago, Lord_Karango17 said:

Not sure what else you could do since you are already above the nvidia limit of 1.212v, and getting a custom vbios for anything over that is getting into dangerous waters... it would likely get you into 1600mhz, but at the cost of potentially recking the gpu, and increasing heat output.

Yeah it is fine

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Just now, Pohernori said:

You could try. Maxwell likes staying cool. The lower your temps are, the higher it might boost.

I will probably try when I am about to get a new GPU so when I brick this one I don't feel bad

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

I will probably try when I am about to get a new GPU so when I brick this one I don't feel bad

 

Don't think you'll be able to kill it on a stock bios :)

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1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

 

Don't think you'll be able to kill it on a stock bios :)

Yeah but is 67C really too hot for it to turbo? Oh I like the sound of that. Makes me want to do a build with that 2 Hot 2 Turbo! Would it fit my card as it is not reference at all

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