gtx 1070 power

[onemanarmy720]

I plan on buying he GTX 1070 founders edition and was just wondering if my 430 watt psu will power it, it would only be temporary and i wouldn't over clock till i get a bigger psu.

 

everything is in my specs list below, just am going for a gtx960 to a gtx1070.

[Imakuni]

 

I'll be able to answer you properly once the card comes out and power consumption tests are available. But, if it is the same (or better) than a 970, a 430w PSU will do.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, onemanarmy720 said:

I plan on buying he GTX 1070 founders edition and was just wondering if my 430 watt psu will power it, it would only be temporary and i wouldn't over clock till i get a bigger psu.

 

everything is in my specs list below, just am going for a gtx960 to a gtx1070.

430W? Highly unlikely to properly power a high-end GPU. Not safely anyway. Upgrade

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Imakuni said:

 

I'll be able to answer you properly once the card comes out and power consumption tests are available. But, if it is the same (or better) than a 970, a 430w PSU will do.

1070 is 150W stock and around 180W under GPU Boost 3.0

[Naeaes]

On paper, your PSU should work. It has the connector required and enough juice to feed it and the CPU you have. It's cutting it close though.

[xDanielxOossiex]

Get 500 watt minimum, 550watts to be safe

[BrinkGG]

5 minutes ago, onemanarmy720 said:

I plan on buying he GTX 1070 founders edition and was just wondering if my 430 watt psu will power it, it would only be temporary and i wouldn't over clock till i get a bigger psu.

 

everything is in my specs list below, just am going for a gtx960 to a gtx1070.

If it can take that 960, it should be fine. I would recommend upgrading it though. 

[henkka_scorpio]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

430W? Highly unlikely to properly power a high-end GPU. Not safely anyway. Upgrade

1 minute ago, xDanielxOossiex said:

Get 500 watt minimum, 550watts to be safe

I can't entirely agree, I have seen people use a 350w PSU from a prebuilt for a gtx 970 build that lasted for years. Depends on the PSU quality, not just the wattage. Does the PSU have any kind of 80+ certification?

 

 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Brink2Three said:

If it can take that 960, it should be fine. I would recommend upgrading it though. 

960 is listed as 120W. 1070 specs say 150W minimum and probably more due to GPU Boost 3.0 and how it's been tweaked to use all the power until it reaches 82*C. Definitely sketchy on 430W

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, henkka_scorpio said:

I can't entirely agree, I have seen people use a 350w PSU from a prebuilt for a gtx 970 build that lasted for years. Depends on the PSU quality, not just the wattage. Does the PSU have any kind of 80+ certification?

 

 

80+ means nothing if the internals are tosh. There are very few 430W PSUs, most of which are crap.

[onemanarmy720]

1 minute ago, henkka_scorpio said:

I can't entirely agree, I have seen people use a 350w PSU from a prebuilt for a gtx 970 build that lasted for years. Depends on the PSU quality, not just the wattage. Does the PSU have any kind of 80+ certification?

 

 

yep, 80 plus

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, onemanarmy720 said:

yep, 80 plus

EVGA W1? Aka worse than some pre-builts. Yeah, you need a proper PSU

[Imakuni]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

EVGA W1? Aka worse than some pre-builts. Yeah, you need a proper PSU

Why do you think every single unit that's not Titanium rated is trash? I agree that the EVGA is a pretty "merh" PSU, but it's nowhere near the crap you make it to be. Look, Jonny agrees with me on this.

 

Anyway, back on topic. It would be nice to have a better PSU, but again, if the 1070 behaves as good / better than a 970 does, OP does NOT need to swap his PSU. It's a "Merh" unit, but it's decent enough to be kept.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Imakuni said:

Why do you think every single unit that's not Titanium rated is trash? I agree that the EVGA is a pretty "merh" PSU, but it's nowhere near the crap you make it to be. Look, Jonny agrees with me on this.

 

Anyway, back on topic. It would be nice to have a better PSU, but again, if the 1070 behaves as good / better than a 970 does, OP does NOT need to swap his PSU. It's a "Merh" unit, but it's decent enough to be kept.

If the OP can afford a 400$ 1070 then he can surely afford a decent 60$ PSU that is not likely to overload his system in an event of failure. The main issue with these "budget" units is that they lack the sophistication of the protections found in higher end models. PSUs such as the 60$-80$ S12G 550W, RMx 550W, GS 550W and others are MUCH better value than the 30$ W1, CX rev 3.0 or XFX XT. All of which, while functional units, pale in comparison to the slightly more expensive, but vastly superior M12II EVO, HCG, CX rev 4.0 or B2.

[Imakuni]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

The main issue with these "budget" units is that they lack the sophistication of the protections found in higher end models. PSUs such as the 60$-80$ S12G 550W, RMx 550W, GS 550W and others are MUCH better value than the 30$ W1, CX rev 3.0 or XFX XT. All of which, while functional units, pale in comparison to the slightly more expensive, but vastly superior M12II EVO, HCG, CX rev 4.0 or B2.

I agree with that. If I was to recommend a new unit, I surely would never recommend getting what OP has.

 

But one the other hand, it's not bad to the point of justifying a swap. At the very least not now. Sure, maybe later he can swap it for a 500 Gold unit or something...

 

..but that's not an obligatory thing to do right now. He can leave that upgrade for later when he's got some spare cash.

[onemanarmy720]

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

If the OP can afford a 400$ 1070 then he can surely afford a decent 60$ PSU that is not likely to overload his system in an event of failure. The main issue with these "budget" units is that they lack the sophistication of the protections found in higher end models. PSUs such as the 60$-80$ S12G 550W, RMx 550W, GS 550W and others are MUCH better value than the 30$ W1, CX rev 3.0 or XFX XT. All of which, while functional units, pale in comparison to the slightly more expensive, but vastly superior M12II EVO, HCG, CX rev 4.0 or B2.

im gonna buy the 1070, and not use it untill i get a GS 550W, even if the 430 would be okay, im just gonna wait.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, onemanarmy720 said:

im gonna buy the 1070, and not use it untill i get a GS 550W, even if the 430 would be okay, im just gonna wait.

That is what I recommend doing - better safe than sorry.

[Imakuni]

3 minutes ago, onemanarmy720 said:

im gonna buy the 1070, and not use it untill i get a GS 550W, even if the 430 would be okay, im just gonna wait.

That's stupid. If you are really set on doing that, buy the PSU FIRST, GPU later.

[BrinkGG]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

960 is listed as 120W. 1070 specs say 150W minimum and probably more due to GPU Boost 3.0 and how it's been tweaked to use all the power until it reaches 82*C. Definitely sketchy on 430W

The PSU has 34A on the 12V rail. With it being an 80+ PSU, that means at LEAST 28 Amps output. Putting it well in reason with the 1070. And if the PSU can't handle it, the worst that can happen is a BSOD. At which case you upgrade the PSU. 

I've been over this before... I hate having to repeat myself but apparently there are a lot of people that don't like anything but their PSU chart that you all shove in people's faces. 

I used a "Delta power" 450w PSU for and occasionally BSOD cause I was a noob and tried to overclock on it. But it didn't kill my old rig (still have it and use it for remote connections back home.)

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Brink2Three said:

The PSU has 34A on the 12V rail. With it being an 80+ PSU, that means at LEAST 28 Amps output. Putting it well in reason with the 1070. And if the PSU can't handle it, the worst that can happen is a BSOD. At which case you upgrade the PSU. 

I've been over this before... I hate having to repeat myself but apparently there are a lot of people that don't like anything but their PSU chart that you all shove in people's faces. 

I used a "Delta power" 450w PSU for and occasionally BSOD cause I was a noob and tried to overclock on it. But it didn't kill my old rig (still have it and use it for remote connections back home.)

So you are comparing a cheap HEC 430W to a Delta (Assuming this is actually delta) 450W? That makes 0 sense - Delta are top-tier as opposed to HEC.

Cheap PSUs can easily cause hardware damage cause they have no UVP or SCP or OTP and sometimes no OPP.

[Imakuni]

5 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

The PSU has 34A on the 12V rail. With it being an 80+ PSU, that means at LEAST 28 Amps output.

Why did you mention the fact that the PSU is 80+ Plus? It has absolutely nothing to do with the power output of the unit. Not in the slightest. I see no reason for you to even bring it to the discussion....

 

... unless you don't actually know how PSU efficiency works. You do know.... don't? Because if not, then go read about it instead of making posts about things you don't properly understand.

[onemanarmy720]

3 hours ago, Imakuni said:

That's stupid. If you are really set on doing that, buy the PSU FIRST, GPU later.

already got the psu.

[BrinkGG]

21 hours ago, Imakuni said:

Why did you mention the fact that the PSU is 80+ Plus? It has absolutely nothing to do with the power output of the unit. Not in the slightest. I see no reason for you to even bring it to the discussion....

 

... unless you don't actually know how PSU efficiency works. You do know.... don't? Because if not, then go read about it instead of making posts about things you don't properly understand.

In my experience, I use the 80+ rated PSUs at up to 80% percent of their 12v rail. 80+ Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Titanium I trust to be able to run at their max rating. 

Its worked for me in the past, so I use it now. I know what the efficiency is referring to (Power drawn from the wall compared to what's used.) I added it to the discussion for explanation for what I say.