Is This Correct?

[LordArcturus]

Is this alright or am I wrong in my thinking, tell me what you think about my thinking methodology on this info, thanks for your critique.

 

(MAJOR RULE FOR PC BUILDING NEVER LET STATIC ELECTRICITY JUMP ONTO COMPONENTS IT WILL FRY THEM, USE STATIC ELECTRICITY BANDS AND HOLD ONTO A GROUNDED PIECE OF METAL.)

PC planning is annoying, seriously, never get into it, I have to factor in power consumption, CPU TDP (Thermal Dispersion), GPU TDP, plan for more storage bays, wire management, and a whole load of other things
And that is just the stuff that is on the surface, ya also need to look out for size restrictions on components, the power that you need to plan for (PSU Watt size, efficiency and how much you have left for future amounts) GPU, has about 6 things ya need to check for, 2 are physical, how much space is required and what you have for safety allowances and also sagging if it is heavy enough and has no back plate to add rigidity, if it sags too much it can cause distortion damage and snap your ???$ card in half

You also need to plan further into everything else, namely how long will this PC remain actively compatible for the future, GPU's if possible should be replaced in 3 years of the current GPU Architecture being phased out for a new one (like Maxwell and Pascal for nVidia) if you don't and your GPU is not up to it anymore, it will not play games of new generations well, in fact it may even be worse than that, the new games won't be optimized for older cards than current generations, and cause massive screen tearing, the GPU can overheat trying to keep up with the games needs or the current memory is not enough and the game even on lower settings could go over the Video RAM specs and this can crash your PC since that card was not designed for VRam intensive games (2GB or 2048MB is the lowest possible VRam amount in this age unless you use a laptop of an older model, than it will go to 1024MB or 1GB of VRam)
PSU or Power Supply Units are even more necessary for future planning, if you under power it during planning you can and will have a compatibility issue if you need to update to a new component or add more, I think that over planning is safe planning for the very reason of this, if you buy a 550W PSU, you need to stay under 490W you NEED to because if it goes above that, you could kill your system in a overload type situation, if you overload a PSU it WILL kill at least 3 major components, your Motherboard, GPU and CPU if you are a very unlucky person it could kill EVERYTHING that is using this PSU as a power source, namely the three above, the PSU itself, HDD's, SSD's, CD Drives, fans, additional components that need power delivered via Motherboard like a Wifi Network card, RAID Array Card, Sound Cards etc.

Motherboard, you need to plan this for a reason you need to make a plan in your head write down everything you want and need and add a few extras as well, PCIE slots you want 2? get one extra from a tier higher board than what you need for future upgrades to your PC build just as a precaution for GPU's Workstation class GPU's, or some other equipment that needs a PCIE slot in any form,also search for several other things that you may not need at that moment but could need down the line, M.2 slots, SATA Express or SATA 6/Gbps slots, fan header slots etc. the reason for the SATA and M.2 slots is simple, you need storage if you are working on a lot of things that need to be saved for later, if you render and upload art, videos or other things like this for a living, you will need a lot of space.

CPU, OK now we enter the higher tier planning, what do you need now and what will you need later, I am a Gamer with some streaming/video making on the side, so I do not need a Workstation class CPU or a Server one so no need for that unless I were making either a Workstation PC or Server PC, so we will stick to Intel i7 Core CPU's these typically have 4 Physical Cores and 4 Logical Cores these i7 CPU's have Hyperthreading capability which means they can take heavy work loads while staying semi cost effective to a degree, these CPU's go for 280$ all the way to 450$ in some cases if it is a K model (K is Unlocked or Over Clocking class CPU Models) if you have more physical cores it means more power for Rendering, Computing and some other jargon I don't know, it is the main work horse of your PC, Speed or the Core Clocking is a very useful thing in some cases, but not as much now as back in earlier CPU Architectures, the typical core clocks of a i7 nowadays have a minimum of 3.2GHz maximum on Non-K Models are 4.0GHz, on a K Model it can go up to 4.6GHz in the latest model (Skylake Models and some Haswell Refresh models) if you have sufficient cooling on the CPU, remember cooling is a MUST, do NOT under plan the cooling otherwise you WILL fry these CPU's, the reason is these CPU's can and WILL reach up to 70-80 degrees Celsius or around 150-180 Degrees Fahrenheit at minimum so cool these properly and have some extra cooling ability and it will be fine, if you put the CPU Cooler on right at least.

 

I probably forgot some stuff that I forgot to look at, if so tell me and I will look into it, this is info I have been thinking on since 3 months ago, I am new, inexperienced and not very knowledged on PC Building and other related things, so be as harsh as necessary if I make errors in my rolling list of rules, planning knowledge and to dos and not to do.

[ADZ_123_!"£]

And this is why we use pc part picker

[thatguyyouknow75]

I only read the first few chapters of your new testament up there but I've never had an issue deciding on components or building the actual pc. They're made to be modular and easy for your average person to to assemble 

[TheRandomness]

2 minutes ago, ADZ_123_!"£ said:

And this is why we use pc part picker

Which does about everything @op complains about. c:

[Peakfire]

7 minutes ago, Elementtt said:

if you buy a 550W PSU, you need to stay under 490W you NEED to because if it goes above that, you could kill your system in a overload type situation, if you overload a PSU it WILL kill at least 3 major components, your Motherboard, GPU and CPU if you are a very unlucky person it could kill EVERYTHING that is using this PSU as a power source

No, a good 550w PSU will go over 550w (usually around ~580-600) before it triggers the overload protection and shuts down safely. It wont "kill your system" and will certainly work again when you turn it back on.

[typographie]

16 minutes ago, Elementtt said:

if you buy a 550W PSU, you need to stay under 490W you NEED to because if it goes above that, you could kill your system in a overload type situation, if you overload a PSU it WILL kill at least 3 major components, your Motherboard, GPU and CPU if you are a very unlucky person it could kill EVERYTHING that is using this PSU as a power source, namely the three above, the PSU itself, HDD's, SSD's, CD Drives, fans, additional components that need power delivered via Motherboard like a Wifi Network card, RAID Array Card, Sound Cards etc.

Okay, first, a decent quality PSU from a trustworthy source should never kill any components. These things have protection circuitry. If it cannot cope with its workload, it should simply shut down or reboot. The horror stories about PSUs bursting into pyrotechnics or shocking components to death are extremely rare occurrences that usually either involve very poor quality units (lacking sufficient protections) or they are decent units with serious defects.

 

I'll be honest, I didn't read this entire post word-for-word, but you seem incredibly hung-up on the fine details. Most of the concerns you have are either less important than you think they are, or already accounted for. For instance, you definitely don't need to account for your entire build's power draw watt-for-watt. Just find a benchmark or two measuring power draw for similar hardware, and/or ask on a forum like this one—frankly a good 550–650 Watt PSU is reasonable and appropriate for the vast majority of typical gaming builds out there today. This whole process is considerably less difficult than you think.

 

It makes sense to take a few rational steps to avoid static discharge when building a PC, but it seems to me that most people building PCs for a long time have never actually harmed a component through ESD. It's very easy to avoid, as long as you touch a grounded piece of metal every now and then. Wrist bands are quite likely overkill, but they're cheap enough that I don't see any problem with using one if it makes you feel better.

[LordArcturus]

21 minutes ago, Elementtt said:

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Yay I successfully broke my posting yay, FML.

OK typo, I will give you that I am thinking overly uselessly on most of this but I have a weird way of stating the most unlikely things ever, so yea, Rookie Mistakes are lovely.

[LordArcturus]

18 minutes ago, ADZ_123_!"£ said:

And this is why we use pc part picker

Oh I do use it, I am half overthinking it, and also over planning on future compatibility and me being a noob at this compounded it even more.

17 minutes ago, thatguyyouknow75 said:

I only read the first few chapters of your new testament up there but I've never had an issue deciding on components or building the actual pc. They're made to be modular and easy for your average person to to assemble 

Oh I know, I had reservations in how I could build it on my first ACTUAL build I was nervous as hell and it almost lead me to back out and wait for someone else to do it for me and I watched them do it, and replicate their way of doing it, but I did it, not necessarily RIGHT but I did it *tried building the PC in a dumb way*

17 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Which does about everything @op complains about. c:

Overthinking is as bad as under thinking with me, in fact it is worse.

16 minutes ago, Peakfire said:

No, a good 550w PSU will go over 550w (usually around ~580-600) before it triggers the overload protection and shuts down safely. It wont "kill your system" and will certainly work again when you turn it back on.

OK, bad knowledge on how PSU's work, that will be fixed, just need to go read/watch videos regarding PSU how they work and what they can and cannot do etc.

[GeekJump]

I thinks you be overthinking this....

 

First build I did months of research and planning. When I got into building I had anti static mat, wrist band, and built it in my under-roos to avoid any risk.

 

Most recent - I spent a few hours researching and buying parts. During build time I was fully clothed, eating a wendys burger in one hand while my other jabbed the mobo with a screwdriver. 

 

End result in both cases = Functional PC  

 

You're going to stress yourself out - just let it be. Also don't bother worrying about getting parts that will be outdated (unless you're purposely buying old parts). No matter how new you go, some company is going to announce a slightly better version right after get your parts. If you keep waiting you'll never have a PC lol

 

side note: I didn't read you whole story soooooo I might have completely went off topic  

[typographie]

Just now, GeekJump said:

…and built it in my under-roos to avoid any risk.

 

During build time I was fully clothed, …

That's hilarious, but honestly if I had thought of that my first time I probably would've done it, too.

 

Feeling overwhelmed and a bit nervous is fine, it keeps you from doing anything super risky and dumb. But just keep it in perspective. These companies do not want to sell their products only to electrical engineers—ordinary people need to be able to touch and install these components with their own grubby little hands. Some components even need a bit of physical force. There are a couple of things to watch out for, but these products are way more resilient than it seems at first. Most people who can operate a screw driver, read a manual, and watch a couple of Youtube build guides are going to come out the other end with a working PC.

[GeekJump]

7 minutes ago, typographie said:

That's hilarious, but honestly if I had thought of that my first time I probably would've done it, too.

 

These companies do not want to sell their products only to electrical engineers

Well I have a strange tendency to always hold a charge lol. Even when I haven't come in contact with fabric, fur, etc., the moment I touch metal, shock!

 

As for the electrical engineers part...(i think i wrote this in one of the worst build/stupid mistake threads) during my first build I attached the metal clip from the anti static mat to the LIVE male end of a extension cord. Nothing crazy happened at first but the moment the cord touched my metal case sparks everywhere (and a numb hand)! Thankfully I hadn't put any parts in at that point  and that was the only potential issue the rest of the build.

that was just a obviously stupid mistake on my end - shouldn't be a problem for a person with normal intelligence.