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Feels good to not live in murrikah :D

Oh, and of course there's lot of ways around this. It's quite funny to see the old people at power try and fiddle with the internet to save their ancient business model, not knowing it won't have an influence.

I once saw a pretty funny video by the RIAA or something, let me try and find it..

It's pretty cute

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This is in no way new, in fact you can do it yourself very easily, just download a torrent, check your peers list, grab an IP and trace it.

The thing is, the methods to avoid being detected are equally as simple and more and more of the mainstream are adapting, in effect teaching them how to exploit the internet.

When will these fools catch on that it is the system that creates the criminal?

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So like... no more sub anime for me? Serious question?
you'll still get your anime.

they only care if you share the file.

so if you download it on a site like mediafire,filefactory,etc they won't do anything.

it's only when you download it as a torrent that they care,because torrents are P2P,in other words to download you have to share the download with other people,and if you share then they'll send you a warning.

also you can watch anime subs online,even if they were copyrighted you can find it somewhere.

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This is complete bull. How will they determine if the file is "illegal" or "copyrighted"? Just cause i went to The Pirate Bay, does not mean it was intent for illegal music. Not all torrents are illegal, they are just taken advantage of. What about public businesses like Mc'Ds or a hotel. They have public wifi. I can easily go to them, Download my music from a torrent, and let the ISP's punish them. A lot of cities have free wifi for their citizens too. To many factors for this new "System" to work properly.

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if only video games and other forms of entertainment were as cheap as they are put on the disk and the fact that they enforce this just makes more people want to pirate stuff.

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What about public businesses like Mc'Ds or a hotel. They have public wifi. I can easily go to them' date=' Download my music from a torrent, and let the ISP's punish them. A lot of cities have free wifi for their citizens too. To many factors for this new "System" to work properly.[/quote']

You didn't watch nor read anything, have you? If you are using a public WiFi access store/area like Mc'Ds or Starbucks/etc. they will not be held liable and it won't be monitored.

OT: I think this will just cause MORE piracy rather than slow/stop it. People will get a wireless device, like a laptop, that has a big hard drive and do all their downloading in Starbucks and then return home. This will only cause more piracy and stop innovation of the Internet and WiFi connections.

Really contemplating moving to Canada, or a Google Fiber location. I have AT&T and I don't pirate personally, but we all know how this system can be bogus and flag each other for no reason, I can switch to Charter, but I run servers and my current plan with my IPs, I will have to completely redo all my servers to accept a different IP and reroute everything.

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What do I think? Can I be honest? I think it's time for us to revolt against our corporate overlords who produce this crap then get mad when we don't want to pay for it. Should people pirate stuff? No. Do I feel bad when I do? No. If I think something deserves my money I will pay for it, but I can't return it if I don't like it so how can I tell if I want it? I don't sell them, I don't make money off them.

If I download something and get a copyright notice, that will put that company on my 'do not purchase' list. 1 strike an you are out!

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What concerns me most is the concept behind it: guilty until proven innocent. Incorrectly identified users will need to spend money to clear their names…

CAS is not a law, it doesnt stop RIAA or MPAA from taking offenders to court, instead it uses ISPs to punish copyright violations, which is against an ISPs own business interest.

you could potentially use a VPN to get around this, but you will need to choose a VPN which doesn't record your IP address (http://vpnverge.com/why-no-log-vpn/) .

Suddenly, Kim dotcoms new mega seems promising since everything will be encrypted.

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FYI - I have seen mentioned, here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment...

This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.

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FYI - I have seen mentioned' date=' here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment... This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.[/quote']

Data hogs? For using THEIR service that we PAY for? I PAY for a service and if that service stops, slows, or is interrupted by any means then I switch ISPs. I download GBs of games from Steam and I never notice any bandwidth limiting from AT&T.

I don't think the ISPs care, they are getting money either way if we are pirates or not.

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FYI - I have seen mentioned' date=' here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment... This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.[/quote']

Data hogs? For using THEIR service that we PAY for? I PAY for a service and if that service stops, slows, or is interrupted by any means then I switch ISPs. I download GBs of games from Steam and I never notice any bandwidth limiting from AT&T.

I don't think the ISPs care, they are getting money either way if we are pirates or not.

Agree with this completely, download limits are practically unheard of in Europe, yet people download as much as as they want, when they want and the ISP's still manage to turn a profit.

I think the problem in the US and Canada is that most of the big production companies originate on home turf so the ISP's have to be shown to be making an effort to help their own economy. Again its the fault of the people who produce the content, its been very well proven that people don't have a problem paying for good quality material, the distribution system is just too far behind

 

The distribution system is flawed, take movies for example as its probably the most heavily hit area...If you look up wikipedia and check out the revenue they make at cinema it has increased massively over the last decade, and that is factoring in inflation.

They probably take a hit on after sales, but there are so many other ways to gain a profit now, apps, games, social media, advertising, events etc.

They aren't putting enough into marketing digital downloads, and even if they only sell a fraction of what they did before, I'm sure it equates to a similar amount of profit compared to the production costs of VHS or DVD. I wonder how much it used to cost to make a million VHS cassettes? cannot of been that cheap!

Laziness and greed, a bad combination!

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FYI - I have seen mentioned' date=' here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment... This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.[/quote']

Data hogs? For using THEIR service that we PAY for? I PAY for a service and if that service stops, slows, or is interrupted by any means then I switch ISPs. I download GBs of games from Steam and I never notice any bandwidth limiting from AT&T.

I don't think the ISPs care, they are getting money either way if we are pirates or not.

And in the U.S.(don't know about Canada) most carriers don't force a download limit. I have unlimited usage and not once have I heard a complaint from AT&T that I'm a "data hog".
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FYI - I have seen mentioned' date=' here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment... This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.[/quote']

Data hogs? For using THEIR service that we PAY for? I PAY for a service and if that service stops, slows, or is interrupted by any means then I switch ISPs. I download GBs of games from Steam and I never notice any bandwidth limiting from AT&T.

I don't think the ISPs care, they are getting money either way if we are pirates or not.

I was thinking of the companies directly involved with media production like Comcast and Time Warner, not bragging or anything, think its disgusting how they treat their customers, also the speeds are nothing to be desired. At the end of the day it affects me too, I have to deal with it when gaming with friends from across the pond.
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FYI - I have seen mentioned' date=' here and elsewhere, by some people referering to Canada, moving here, etc. Many of our ISP's already monitor for Torrent traffic (and other protocols) and actualy do bandwidth shapping on it. More, they have been sending warning emails for years about this and that and in two cases I know personally, internet access has been cut because of alleged continued copyright infringment... This isn't so much a government thing - the ISP's want the "data hogs" off their networks, and use copyright as a means to an end.[/quote']

Data hogs? For using THEIR service that we PAY for? I PAY for a service and if that service stops, slows, or is interrupted by any means then I switch ISPs. I download GBs of games from Steam and I never notice any bandwidth limiting from AT&T.

I don't think the ISPs care, they are getting money either way if we are pirates or not.

Most of the big three in Canada do impose data limits now, as do many of the smaller carries. When you go over those you get charged overage charges as well. It is a big thing here - the ISP's complaining about a small percentage of users (and typically you get this to mean people downloading via P2P) utilizing a large portion of the back end bandwidth, which in turn effects everyone else, blah blah blah....

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On 3/3/2013 at 3:04 AM, Jessica19 said:

What concerns me most is the concept behind it: guilty until proven innocent. Incorrectly identified users will need to spend money to clear their names…

CAS is not a law, it doesnt stop RIAA or MPAA from taking offenders to court, instead it uses ISPs to punish copyright violations, which is against an ISPs own business interest.

you could potentially use a VPN to get around this, but you will need to choose a VPN which doesn't record your IP address (http://vpnverge.com/why-no-log-vpn/) .

Suddenly, Kim dotcoms new mega seems promising since everything will be encrypted.

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