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GTX 970 OR R9 390

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So watcha think for my planned gaming build a R9 390 or GTX 970?

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5 6500
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SSD: Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB 2.5in SSD

HDD: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB WD10EZEX

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4GB OR MSI R9 390????
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Any ideas would be very much appreciated.  Now what i do like about the R9 390 is the fact that it has 8GBvram, but ive heard that Nivida does have a advatage with drivers within games and this so called "advanced physics". Thats all i can get out of the two, so any further info would be great , im lost at the moment. Games i intend to play are DayZ SA, Arma II/III , GTA V, Fallout 4. 

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The 390 is superior in almost every game you through at it, get the Sapphire one if you can afford it and it will fit in your case. If the 970's are a lot cheaper get one of those.

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Just now, Citadelen said:

The 390 is superior in almost every game you through at it, get the Sapphire one if you can afford it and it will fit in your case.

No it's not can you stop lying? They are EVEN.

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R9 390. Same price range as the 970 but generally performs better.

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There are loads of videos online for you to see. Those 2 cards are really even, just go with whichever is cheaper.

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it would depend on price for me and im a fan of evga b stock so id get the 970 for 250.00 with a 1 year warranty from there :)

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Cheers for the advice guys, so 390 seems like its the go, but what i really need to find out is if there are any driver related issues with any games, such as dayZ SA , Arma II/III, GTA V . Ive seen that there is fps drops in fallout 4 and falls behind leaving the 970 to perform better and more stable. ?

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1 hour ago, ZetZet said:

No it's not can you stop lying? They are EVEN.

Depends

In CPU bound situations (1080p/non not so good CPU): 970

In GPU bound situations (1440P/4K very good CPU): R9 390

 

If you plan on upgrading to 1440p soon get the R9 390 since you already have a good CPU, if you are welling to stick with the 1080p for some time and bet on a good overclock get the 970.

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1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

Depends

In CPU bound situations (1080p/non not so good CPU): 970

In GPU bound situations (1440P/4K very good CPU): R9 390

 

If you plan on upgrading to 1440p soon get the R9 390 since you already have a good CPU, if you are welling to stick with the 1080p for some time and bet on a good overclock get the 970.

I plan on 1080p for some time do you think the r9 390 wont perform as good as 970 on 1080p ?

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6 minutes ago, azza_01 said:

I plan on 1080p for some time do you think the r9 390 wont perform as good as 970 on 1080p ?

Look at the bench marks I provided, the 390 preforms better 80% of the time.

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Just now, Citadelen said:

look at the bench marks I provided, it preforms better 80% of the time.

yeah ive seen them videos good ones too thx, yes r9 390 does seem like the winner there , but im just taking some extra considerations befroe i buy me parts. Im spending fair amount of $$$ so i wanna make sure i dont go wrong anywhere.If ya know what i mean. 

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ahhh wish they dropped the price of the 970, anyone know if they will soon?. 

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11 minutes ago, azza_01 said:

I plan on 1080p for some time do you think the r9 390 wont perform as good as 970 on 1080p ?

Yeah, they are neck to neck at this resolution as long as you get the skylake i5. 

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Just now, Castdeath97 said:

Yeah, they are neck to neck at this resolution as long as you get the skylake i5. 

cools cheers mate. 

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okay anyone know if any of my parts will bottleneck with the R9 390, like will i be able to handle the 8GB with stable fps if i ever got to using it? 

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8 hours ago, Tibbles said:

You should be perfectly fine.

Awesome

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9 hours ago, Citadelen said:

Look at the bench marks I provided, the 390 preforms better 80% of the time.

Yes, while not overclocked. look what happens to your "benchmarks" when the 970 is allowed to breath. Watch until the end, they're even.

 

 

 

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Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

390

I'm going to have to ask you to hand over your tag. *joke sign*

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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390 unless you love gameworks and stuff! :D

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Just now, DefaultTheVader said:

The R9 390 is better

OK new blood. Prove it. I don't see a build listed in your profile, so do you have a 390 to speak from experience? I've owned a Vapor X 290 and a Nitro 390 OC. I know where they're strong and where they fall on their face. But every day we see more people flooding the forum with comments like yours.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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1 hour ago, App4that said:

Yes, while not overclocked. look what happens to your "benchmarks" when the 970 is allowed to breath. Watch until the end, they're even.

 

 

 

Nvidia title in which I don't think AMD has released drivers for, one of the videos I posted is running an overclocked 970 and I did not say ALL, games, I said most, which I represented with 80%.

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Citadelen said:

Nvidia title in which I don't think AMD has released drivers for, one of the videos I posted is running an overclocked 970 and I did not say ALL, games, I said most, which I represented with 80%.

 

 

 

 

You're not listening. In the really real world the 970 and 390 are a horse a piece, they're even. You want a winner where there isn't one. It's 100% subjective.

 

My point with the link is that unless you have an approved benchmark and make sure to take into consideration driver overhead, it's not accurate. Digital Foundry is catching onto this.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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