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Need help with Twitch Stream please!

XtraToothpaste

I couldn't see any subforum that this topic would fit better in, so here goes. I recently put together my new build that's intended to be for streaming, gaming, photoshop and such. My problem lies here:

http://www.twitch.tv/xtratoothpaste/v/46360044

I'm not sure if I need to change settings in OBS, or if I need better hardware (which would make no sense, since the cpu is up-to-date, or so I thought). The fps I'm getting is pretty lacking. Playing the game itself I'm not getting great fps, and the stream is even worse. I did a bit of research, and found that graphics cards don't make a huge difference in streaming, and the cpu handles most of the load. Here's the build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($323.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $323.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-17 02:03 EST-0500

 

Keep in mind, the graphics card has not yet been purchased, and I am using integrated graphics. I was assuming that was the problem, but after the research I was just thinking that maybe it was something else. Any ideas or suggestions that I should look into? Thank you to anyone who reads this and attempts to help me out :D

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I also have this link here: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H97M%20Pro4/?cat=Download&os=Win1064

it's a link for drivers for my motherboard. My motherboard obviously came with the install cd, but my tower doesn't support a cd drive, and figured I could just download the drivers I needed from here. I did not download all of them. Would any of these make a difference?

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Well get the gpu and try with it iGpus aren't really meant for gaming and i think the xeon igpus are even worse in gaming.

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Just now, TroubleKlef said:

Xeons have integrated graphics?

This model does. I was planning on getting the 1231 v3 but that one didn't have integrated graphics. and I had a limited amount of money and had to put off the graphics card for a little bit, but I wanted to be able to use my new computer. So i went with the more expensive one with integrated graphics

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Just now, TroubleKlef said:

Xeons have integrated graphics?

I was thinking the same this xeon has HD P4600 graphics.

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Just now, XtraToothpaste said:

This model does. I was planning on getting the 1231 v3 but that one didn't have integrated graphics. and I had a limited amount of money and had to put off the graphics card for a little bit, but I wanted to be able to use my new computer. So i went with the more expensive one with integrated graphics

hm. The poor gaming performance probably stems from the integrated graphics but the Xeon should be PLENTY for x.264 encoding in OBS.

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While streaming might rely on CPU alone, you still need that GPU power to run the game. If the game runs at 10 fps, so will the stream even if you set it to stream 60 fps, because its only getting that 10 fps the game is running at.

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2 minutes ago, Samppa221 said:
Just now, Verne said:

While streaming might rely on CPU alone, you still need that GPU power to run the game. If the game runs at 10 fps, so will the stream even if you set it to stream 60 fps, because its only getting that 10 fps the game is running at.

The game runs at decent fps, not great but decent. Is my only concern pretty much just the GPU then? 

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I was hoping it's as simple as the GPU, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get it. The anticipation is just killing me, though. xD

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Yep, it's the GPU that's the problem.

 

When you stream you are doing two tasks at once. First you run the game, and then you stream the game. The streaming portion requires a good CPU, like your research told you, but the actual "run the game" part requires a good GPU (depends on the game).

If your GPU can't handle more than 15 FPS in a game then your stream will never look better than 15 FPS (usually even worse), no matter how good your CPU is.

 

Also, your CPU supports QuickSync so you might want to look into using that for streaming (once you get the GPU). It takes a huge load off your CPU, but it might reduce the image quality of the stream.

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2 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Yep, it's the GPU that's the problem.

 

When you stream you are doing two tasks at once. First you run the game, and then you stream the game. The streaming portion requires a good CPU, like your research told you, but the actual "run the game" part requires a good GPU (depends on the game).

If your GPU can't handle more than 15 FPS in a game then your stream will never look better than 15 FPS (usually even worse), no matter how good your CPU is.

 

Also, your CPU supports QuickSync so you might want to look into using that for streaming (once you get the GPU). It takes a huge load off your CPU, but it might reduce the image quality of the stream.

Thanks for the reply. I'll be getting the GPU as soon as tax returns xD

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