Posted January 24, 2016 So I have 2 choices for my new build. Z97 and SLI or Z170 and no SLI. Which is more important for a future upgradabitlity oriented PC? I'm not buying a GPU 'till Pascal and Polaris so thats why I was leaning to the Z97 just in case the nVidia cards are better (hopefully not) but the Z170 has support for the newer CPU's. Which is more important? He who asks is stupid for 5 minutes. He who does not ask, remains stupid. -Chinese proverb. Those who know much are aware that they know little. - Slick roasting me Spoiler AXIOM CPU- Intel i5-6500 GPU- EVGA 1060 6GB Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H RAM- 8GB HyperX DDR4-2133 PSU- EVGA GQ 650w HDD- OEM 750GB Seagate Case- NZXT S340 Mouse- Logitech Gaming g402 Keyboard- Azio MGK1 Headset- HyperX Cloud Core Offical first poster LTT V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Go with either. I wouldn't worry about SLI unless you were planning on getting at least 980ti's. [Out-of-date] Want to learn how to make your own custom Windows 10 image? Desktop: AMD R9 3900X | ASUS ROG Strix X570-F | Radeon RX 5700 XT | EVGA GTX 1080 SC | 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600MHz | 1TB 970 EVO | 256GB 840 EVO | 960GB Corsair Force LE | EVGA G2 850W | Phanteks P400S Laptop: Intel M-5Y10c | Intel HD Graphics | 8GB RAM | 250GB Micron SSD | Asus UX305FA Server 01: Intel Xeon D 1541 | ASRock Rack D1541D4I-2L2T | 32GB Hynix ECC DDR4 | 4x8TB Western Digital HDDs | 32TB Raw 16TB Usable Server 02: Intel i7 7700K | Gigabye Z170N Gaming5 | 16GB Trident Z 3200MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Author Go with either. I wouldn't worry about SLI unless you were planning on getting at least 980ti's. I'm waiting for Pascal so maybe the 970 equivalent will be SLI-able? I just wanna be sure I'm not going to be really annoyed that I cant SLI He who asks is stupid for 5 minutes. He who does not ask, remains stupid. -Chinese proverb. Those who know much are aware that they know little. - Slick roasting me Spoiler AXIOM CPU- Intel i5-6500 GPU- EVGA 1060 6GB Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H RAM- 8GB HyperX DDR4-2133 PSU- EVGA GQ 650w HDD- OEM 750GB Seagate Case- NZXT S340 Mouse- Logitech Gaming g402 Keyboard- Azio MGK1 Headset- HyperX Cloud Core Offical first poster LTT V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Skylake won't save you from future upgrade concerns as Intel is going 10nm within two years. Go with the Z97 and wait for the *chips* to fall as to what to upgrade to in two years. If anyone asks you never saw me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Author Skylake won't save you from future upgrade concerns as Intel is going 10nm within two years. Go with the Z97 and wait for the *chips* to fall as to what to upgrade to in two years. But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger? He who asks is stupid for 5 minutes. He who does not ask, remains stupid. -Chinese proverb. Those who know much are aware that they know little. - Slick roasting me Spoiler AXIOM CPU- Intel i5-6500 GPU- EVGA 1060 6GB Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H RAM- 8GB HyperX DDR4-2133 PSU- EVGA GQ 650w HDD- OEM 750GB Seagate Case- NZXT S340 Mouse- Logitech Gaming g402 Keyboard- Azio MGK1 Headset- HyperX Cloud Core Offical first poster LTT V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 I'm waiting for Pascal so maybe the 970 equivalent will be SLI-able? I just wanna be sure I'm not going to be really annoyed that I cant SLI. It's always better to go with the most powerful single card before going with SLI of something that will cost as much or more. Less issues and you don't have to worry about whether a game will support SLI. [Out-of-date] Want to learn how to make your own custom Windows 10 image? Desktop: AMD R9 3900X | ASUS ROG Strix X570-F | Radeon RX 5700 XT | EVGA GTX 1080 SC | 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600MHz | 1TB 970 EVO | 256GB 840 EVO | 960GB Corsair Force LE | EVGA G2 850W | Phanteks P400S Laptop: Intel M-5Y10c | Intel HD Graphics | 8GB RAM | 250GB Micron SSD | Asus UX305FA Server 01: Intel Xeon D 1541 | ASRock Rack D1541D4I-2L2T | 32GB Hynix ECC DDR4 | 4x8TB Western Digital HDDs | 32TB Raw 16TB Usable Server 02: Intel i7 7700K | Gigabye Z170N Gaming5 | 16GB Trident Z 3200MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger? The node size doesn't do much. Since the original i7s, single core performance has only really increased like 30% and that's over about 6 years. The difference is minuscule. [Out-of-date] Want to learn how to make your own custom Windows 10 image? Desktop: AMD R9 3900X | ASUS ROG Strix X570-F | Radeon RX 5700 XT | EVGA GTX 1080 SC | 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600MHz | 1TB 970 EVO | 256GB 840 EVO | 960GB Corsair Force LE | EVGA G2 850W | Phanteks P400S Laptop: Intel M-5Y10c | Intel HD Graphics | 8GB RAM | 250GB Micron SSD | Asus UX305FA Server 01: Intel Xeon D 1541 | ASRock Rack D1541D4I-2L2T | 32GB Hynix ECC DDR4 | 4x8TB Western Digital HDDs | 32TB Raw 16TB Usable Server 02: Intel i7 7700K | Gigabye Z170N Gaming5 | 16GB Trident Z 3200MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Author It's always better to go with the most powerful single card before going with SLI of something that will cost as much or more. Less issues and you don't have to worry about whether a game will support SLI. So should I go with the Z170? He who asks is stupid for 5 minutes. He who does not ask, remains stupid. -Chinese proverb. Those who know much are aware that they know little. - Slick roasting me Spoiler AXIOM CPU- Intel i5-6500 GPU- EVGA 1060 6GB Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H RAM- 8GB HyperX DDR4-2133 PSU- EVGA GQ 650w HDD- OEM 750GB Seagate Case- NZXT S340 Mouse- Logitech Gaming g402 Keyboard- Azio MGK1 Headset- HyperX Cloud Core Offical first poster LTT V2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger? No, biggest advantage for gaming with Skylake is DDR4, not the architecture. The advantage is there, just not cost effective at the moment. Not on a budget, go Skylake of course. And Skylakes going to have the shortest relevance EVER :lol: If anyone asks you never saw me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 When are you building this PC? If you're waiting until the next GPUs then wait til then for Skylake, 6700k should have dropped by then Ryzen Ram Guide My Project Logs Iced Blood Temporal Snow Temporal Snow Ryzen Refresh CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5 Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200 GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 So should I go with the Z170? Go with whatever is cheaper. It doesn't make that big of a difference. [Out-of-date] Want to learn how to make your own custom Windows 10 image? Desktop: AMD R9 3900X | ASUS ROG Strix X570-F | Radeon RX 5700 XT | EVGA GTX 1080 SC | 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600MHz | 1TB 970 EVO | 256GB 840 EVO | 960GB Corsair Force LE | EVGA G2 850W | Phanteks P400S Laptop: Intel M-5Y10c | Intel HD Graphics | 8GB RAM | 250GB Micron SSD | Asus UX305FA Server 01: Intel Xeon D 1541 | ASRock Rack D1541D4I-2L2T | 32GB Hynix ECC DDR4 | 4x8TB Western Digital HDDs | 32TB Raw 16TB Usable Server 02: Intel i7 7700K | Gigabye Z170N Gaming5 | 16GB Trident Z 3200MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2016 Personally I would never SLI/Crossfire unless you have the money and your SLI Top teir GPUs. Why go to Z170 ..? your z97 is still new. Magical Pineapples