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So I have 2 choices for my new build. Z97 and SLI or Z170 and no SLI. Which is more important for a future upgradabitlity oriented PC? I'm not buying a GPU 'till Pascal and Polaris so thats why I was leaning to the Z97 just in case the nVidia cards are better (hopefully not) but the Z170 has support for the newer CPU's. Which is more important?

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Go with either. I wouldn't worry about SLI unless you were planning on getting at least 980ti's.

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Go with either. I wouldn't worry about SLI unless you were planning on getting at least 980ti's.

I'm waiting for Pascal so maybe the 970 equivalent will be SLI-able? I just wanna be sure I'm not going to be really annoyed that I cant SLI

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Skylake won't save you from future upgrade concerns as Intel is going 10nm within two years. Go with the Z97 and wait for the *chips* to fall as to what to upgrade to in two years. :ph34r:

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Skylake won't save you from future upgrade concerns as Intel is going 10nm within two years. Go with the Z97 and wait for the *chips* to fall as to what to upgrade to in two years. :ph34r:

But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger?

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I'm waiting for Pascal so maybe the 970 equivalent will be SLI-able? I just wanna be sure I'm not going to be really annoyed that I cant SLI.

It's always better to go with the most powerful single card before going with SLI of something that will cost as much or more. Less issues and you don't have to worry about whether a game will support SLI.

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But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger?

The node size doesn't do much. Since the original i7s, single core performance has only really increased like 30% and that's over about 6 years. The difference is minuscule.

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It's always better to go with the most powerful single card before going with SLI of something that will cost as much or more. Less issues and you don't have to worry about whether a game will support SLI.

So should I go with the Z170?

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But eventually wont the 14nm difference over 22nm be a lot larger?

No, biggest advantage for gaming with Skylake is DDR4, not the architecture. The advantage is there, just not cost effective at the moment. Not on a budget, go Skylake of course. And Skylakes going to have the shortest relevance EVER :lol:

 

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When are you building this PC? If you're waiting until the next GPUs then wait til then for Skylake, 6700k should have dropped by then

 

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So should I go with the Z170?

Go with whatever is cheaper. It doesn't make that big of a difference.

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Personally I would never SLI/Crossfire unless you have the money and your SLI Top teir GPUs. Why go to Z170 ..? your z97 is still new. 

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Personally I would never SLI/Crossfire unless you have the money and your SLI Top teir GPUs. Why go to Z170 ..? your z97 is still new. 

I dont have a Z97 PC but The pricing is nearly the exact same like 10 bucks more for Skylake so I think I'll go for the newer platform

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I dont have a Z97 PC but The pricing is nearly the exact same like 10 bucks more for Skylake so I think I'll go for the newer platform

What do you have right now? 

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A really trash laptop with an E1-2500 APU. I NEED an upgrade. Damn, a Pentium would be an upgrade!

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What do you have right now? 

Thats my current laptop

He who asks is stupid for 5 minutes. He who does not ask, remains stupid. -Chinese proverb. 

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So I have 2 choices for my new build. Z97 and SLI or Z170 and no SLI. Which is more important for a future upgradabitlity oriented PC? I'm not buying a GPU 'till Pascal and Polaris so thats why I was leaning to the Z97 just in case the nVidia cards are better (hopefully not) but the Z170 has support for the newer CPU's. Which is more important?

 

Z170 for sure. To hell with SLI unless you're wanting to game in 4k. Z170 you get three "generations" (really two generations and a refresh) of processors (Skylake / Kaby Lake / Cannonlake) and also DDR4 ram support and 4 more PCIE lanes for running a faster SSD. If you're going less than 4k you can already buy a single GPU that can easily run 1440p at 60 fps, the GTX 980 Ti. And I'd be shocked if Pascal's 80 series card couldn't beat the 980 Ti. 

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