i7 4790k upgrade

[Pandora]

so i currently have an i5 4690k that used to run at 4.8 ghz but due to heat issues is running at 4.5 and still hitting 78 degrees in battlefront.

 

anyway i was wondering if it was worth selling this cpu and trying to get a better binned i7 4790k instead. 

 

i really dont know why my tempatures have spiked so dramiticly in the last few months. during the summer i could keep it at 4.8 at hit a max of 78 degrees in an AIO cooler.

 

side note: i had a fitting burst about 5 months ago and was able to recover my system but for a week after that i couldnt get tempature readings from core 1. i guess my issues started around then. could damage like that cause the heat issues like this?

[stealth80]

The difference between an i7 and an i5 for gaming is quite small, especially if running at high clock speeds. You would be better investing that money into a custom loop in my opinion 

[Pandora]

The difference between an i7 and an i5 for gaming is quite small, especially if running at high clock speeds. You would be better investing that money into a custom loop in my opinion 

already have a custom loop. its very pretty. upgraded from an aio due to gpu noise and heat.

[Mr.Meerkat]

The difference between an i7 and an i5 for gaming is quite small, especially if running at high clock speeds. You would be better investing that money into a custom loop in my opinion 

He has a custom loop

 

"I had a fitting burst..."

[stealth80]

He has a custom loop

 

"I had a fitting burst..."

 

 

Ye i read the aio and assumed it was the aio that burst. in that case go for broke and sell the old chip lol 

[Bl00dgod]

custom loop and 78°C .... then i would try to improve something with bigger rads or other parts

[Pandora]

custom loop and 78°C .... then i would try to improve something with bigger rads or other parts

i have a 360 thick alpha cool rad in the top and a 240 slim in the front. i should be fine.

[stealth80]

is that for gpu and cpu? what fans are you using? I use a 360 + 240 on my 4790k at stock 4.4ghz and it never exceeds 50C cpu temp, how high is your vcore? 

[Pandora]

is that for gpu and cpu? what fans are you using? I use a 360 + 240 on my 4790k at stock 4.4ghz and it never exceeds 50C cpu temp, how high is your vcore? 

yes for cpu and gpu, and im using noctua fans. my vcore at 4.8 was 1.39v and my vcore for 4.5 is 1.189v.

[Mr.Meerkat]

Ye i read the aio and assumed it was the aio that burst. in that case go for broke and sell the old chip lol 

Fair enough.

 

@thorbrantly When did the fitting fail, maybe it's just higher ambient temps possibly?  

[Pandora]

Fair enough.

 

@thorbrantly When did the fitting fail, maybe it's just higher ambient temps possibly?  

fitting failed in august.

[Mr.Meerkat]

fitting failed in august.

So the temps should have gone down then cause lower (or I would expect) ambient temps...

[App4that]

I went from a 4690k to a 4790k, best move I've ever done.

[UCG_Gaddafi]

With a custom loop the CPU should not be that hot. I'd make sure the cooler is seated right and the rads are working properly.

[Pandora]

With a custom loop the CPU should not be that hot. I'd make sure the cooler is seated right and the rads are working properly.

i have been talking with ekwb for a while about this and the cpu is making proper contact with the WB. i dont really know how a rad could not be working.

[UCG_Gaddafi]

Well, a good way to test this is just try a single rad on a stress test, check the temps and benchmark the temps, 2nd is to try the other rad, do the same as before then put both rads in there. If one rad goes to 85c and the other goes beyond that, we know the problem. Which ever is the shortest variation in temps in the better one. It could even be one isn't even working at all and it is one of the radiators working. If not, how long have you had them, dust them out also.

[Pandora]

Well, a good way to test this is just try a single rad on a stress test, check the temps and benchmark the temps, 2nd is to try the other rad, do the same as before then put both rads in there. If one rad goes to 85c and the other goes beyond that, we know the problem. Which ever is the shortest variation in temps in the better one. It could even be one isn't even working at all and it is one of the radiators working. If not, how long have you had them, dust them out also.

so you want me to dissasemble my loop and reassemble it just to test if a rad is broken.... im going to go out on a limb and say my radiators arent broken. because radiators dont break...

[UCG_Gaddafi]

Good point, it would take a while but radiators can stop working properly but that is a slim chance. Run stock speeds and benchmark there to see if it runs any cooler, check idle and load and compare it to the other users with the same CPU at the same clock speed.

[Pandora]

Good point, it would take a while but radiators can stop working properly but that is a slim chance. Run stock speeds and benchmark there to see if it runs any cooler, check idle and load and compare it to the other users with the same CPU at the same clock speed.

please explain to me how a radiator might be broken? i really dont understand that part. 

[Guest CptPants]

If you want to get a 4790K and you can sell your current chip then why not go. for it. The difference won't be night and day but you will be happy instead of thinking if you should do it all day. Good luck in the lottery. Try asking for a chip from Vietnam. A little birdie told me there a pretty good bin.

[UCG_Gaddafi]

Are you using an AIO or custom loop? I thought this was another thread, my bad. It could be the cooler itself, such as the pump dying. My bad on that, try clock speeds and look at benchmarks online for temps and see if they are similar to yours. Anything upwards of 10c+ would be a concern and might need to look into a replacement. If it is AIO do not take it apart. But I know that coolers can wear down overtime.

[stealth80]

yes for cpu and gpu, and im using noctua fans. my vcore at 4.8 was 1.39v and my vcore for 4.5 is 1.189v.

 

 

Thats quite a high voltage change, how are the temps at 1.89v? (sorry if i missed something had a few beers)

[runit3]

so i currently have an i5 4690k that used to run at 4.8 ghz but due to heat issues is running at 4.5 and still hitting 78 degrees in battlefront.

 

anyway i was wondering if it was worth selling this cpu and trying to get a better binned i7 4790k instead. 

 

i really dont know why my tempatures have spiked so dramiticly in the last few months. during the summer i could keep it at 4.8 at hit a max of 78 degrees in an AIO cooler.

 

side note: i had a fitting burst about 5 months ago and was able to recover my system but for a week after that i couldnt get tempature readings from core 1. i guess my issues started around then. could damage like that cause the heat issues like this?

Neither. There is no guarantee that a new chip would be any better, and a 4.8GHz OC on that current chip is above average (could be really above average depending on voltage).

 

Just delid it, temp improvement varies from -8-17C depending on how bad the stock TIM is. CLU is ~$12 and as long as you have a vice handy there is no additional cost input.

[Bl00dgod]

maybe @Lays can help with a decision

he got his devils canyon to 6ghz... 6!

[Pandora]

Thats quite a high voltage change, how are the temps at 1.89v? (sorry if i missed something had a few beers)

my temps at 1.189v @ 4.5ghz it hits 78ish degrees with fans at 100%