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Just get a nice cooler for your 4790k, over clock the crap out of it, grab another 980ti hybrid, and you'll be set and there's no need to build a new system.

Current System (Main Components)

CPU: i7 4790k

GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid

SSD: Intel 730

MOTHERBOARD: SABERTOOTH Mark I/USB 3.1

RAM: 16GB Crucial Ballistic Tactical (CAS 9/1866MHz)

PSU: Seasonic 860W

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Proposed System #1 (Z170)                                                                                                 

CPU: i7 6700K                                                                                                                                       

GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid                                                                                                               

SSD: Intel 730                                                                                                                                      

MOTHERBOARD: MSI XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION                                                           

RAM: 32GB Ripjaws (CAS 16/3200MHz)                                                                                                

PSU: Seasonic 860W

 

Proposed System #2 (X99)                                                                                                                        

CPU: i7 5930K
GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid 
SSD: Intel 730

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS SABERTOOTH

RAM: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum (CAS 14/2400 MHz)

PSU: Seasonic 860W

 

 

 

Current Needs:

  • Gaming (1440p/144Hz/Ultra or High Settings)
  • Photoshop/Premier
  • A couple VMs
  • General office work
  • Mild overclocking
  • Dual monitor (1440p/2160p)

I've to come to pick your brains friends, brothers and sisters. You've been most helpful with me these past several weeks and I am very grateful. I now wish to call upon your skills once again. Before you stand two systems that I am considering upgrading to in the very near future (2-3 months). I am taking some components of my current system (GPU, PSU, SSD) and going to add them into one of these two set ups. The rest will be sold for whatever value I can get from them. Before you say so, yes I am aware that 32GB is overkill and never needed. Yes I am aware that current games don't take advantage of six cores and the 6700K does better at this moment in time in that department. No I will not spring for the 8-core. And yes I am aware that Dominator Platinum is overpriced. My only concerns are longevity, stability, reliability, expandability and relevance in 2-3 yrs. After this upgrade, I don't want to even consider one for at least a couple years. I know no one can tell what the future holds and new technology is always coming out. But based on your personal experience, expertise and general knowledge which chipset has the best chance of meeting my current needs and has the greatest buffer for future ones? Exclude the cost of either system in your opinion.
 
Thank you for any and all insight. I shall return from work this evening and read over your answers.

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2nd option, but change to a 5820K, it's cheaper and still 6-cores

 

And please don't get expensive motherboard, I suggest the X99-A

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X99. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

 

But there is no reason to buy a 5930k over a 5820k, and if you want to wait, broadwell-E is supposed to come out in june at the latest. (The 6900k is a high speed 8 core beast that should be around the 5930k launch price)

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quite honestly you already shouldn't consider upgrade in 2-3 yrs

 

well maybe get another 980ti if you want to game 1440p @ 144Hz Ultra

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One GPU will not support your gaming needs. I have 2 and it's not enough for every game.

 

X99 and Z170 will both be refreshed with Broadwell-E and KBL respectively so both will have upgrade paths.

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X99. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

 

But there is no reason to buy a 5930k over a 5820k, and if you want to wait, broadwell-E is supposed to come out in june at the latest. (The 6900k is a high speed 8 core beast that should be around the 5930k launch price)

 

If you're running more than just a couple of GPUs, you need a 5930K.  Also, to correct you, BDW-E is going to be more expensive than the HSW-E counterparts.  It's not getting cheaper just because there's a 10 core at the top of the stack.

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Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ P-Core only || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

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Keep your rig.. or add one 980 Ti, you dont need to change the CPU.

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X99. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

 

But there is no reason to buy a 5930k over a 5820k, and if you want to wait, broadwell-E is supposed to come out in june at the latest. (The 6900k is a high speed 8 core beast that should be around the 5930k launch price)

Specs were leaked. The 6900k should be around $999.

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X99. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

 

But there is no reason to buy a 5930k over a 5820k, and if you want to wait, broadwell-E is supposed to come out in june at the latest. (The 6900k is a high speed 8 core beast that should be around the 5930k launch price)

should be around? can you link me a source? because i heard that the 10 core will cost 1500$ and the 8 core 1000$
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If you're running more than just a couple of GPUs, you need a 5930K.  

um no.......

 

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I'd say, you keep the same rig that you have atm. No need for any hardware upgrades in the near future.

 

+1000

 

If needed, add some more memory.

 

Is there a non-stock cpu cooler? If so, is the cpu overclocked?

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If you're running more than just a couple of GPUs, you need a 5930K.  Also, to correct you, BDW-E is going to be more expensive than the HSW-E counterparts.  It's not getting cheaper just because there's a 10 core at the top of the stack.

No you don't. The 5820k supports 3-way gpus (although not on the x99 sabertooth which NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER SUPPORTS MORE THAN 2 way SLI).

No one should ever buy a 5930k since a 5930k+midrange x99 mobo is more expensive than 5820k and PLX mobo.

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Specs were leaked. The 6900k should be around $999.

Specs were leaked over a month before the "price leak". I'd estimate more like 750 personally.

 

 

should be around? can you link me a source? because i heard that the 10 core will cost 1500$ and the 8 core 1000$

 

All we have is rumors. Specs list is pretty much a guaranteed since we had two independent "leaks" saying the same thing. It seems exceedingly unlikely the 6900k goes dollar for dollar against the 5960x. That just doesn't happen in intels launches.

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Specs were leaked over a month before the "price leak". I'd estimate more like 750 personally.

Oknvm then. It would make sense for Intel to price the Broadwell-E 8 core the same as the Haswell-E 8 core though :P

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Oknvm then. It would make sense for Intel to price the Broadwell-E 8 core the same as the Haswell-E 8 core though :P

Except they didn't with Haswell 6 to Sandy/Ivy 6s did they?

 

I mean we don't know. But remember how right until two weeks before launch the Fury X was going to be like 899? (Now the 980ti is pretty extenuating circumstances I'll admit, but still pricing leaks this far in advance are rarely accurate with new lineup configurations.)

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I'd say, you keep the same rig that you have atm. No need for any hardware upgrades in the near future.

 

 

I agree with this. Your current rig is going to be fine for the next 2-3 years, and I'm not sure your proposed upgrades buy you that much extra lifetime.

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No you don't. The 5820k supports 3-way gpus (although not on the x99 sabertooth which NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER SUPPORTS MORE THAN 2 way SLI).

No one should ever buy a 5930k since a 5930k+midrange x99 mobo is more expensive than 5820k and PLX mobo.

You lack imagination.  I have 2 GPUs, a soundcard, and a 10Gbe network card.  5820K wouldn't work due to lane allocation limitations.  Also moreso if I wanted to add a PCI-e based SSD (like a 950 Pro or 750).  I also plan on probably adding a 3rd Titan X, which I'm not even sure I can do due to physical slot limitations.  Would probably need a PCI-e riser board.

 

5930K exists for a reason.

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Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ P-Core only || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

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You lack imagination.  I have 2 GPUs, a soundcard, and a 10Gbe network card.  5820K wouldn't work due to lane allocation limitations.  Also moreso if I wanted to add a PCI-e based SD.

 

5930K exists for a reason.

No, you seem to fail to understand that A: The motherboard he choose literally cant utilize more than a 5820k's lanes due to available slots (it can't even run the bottom 4x pcie slot at the same time as the m.2) and B: PLX mobo and 5820k is cheaper than midrange mobo with 5930k. Sorry you wanted to waste money on a RVE, but that doesn't make it a "good option".

 

No one should buy a 5930k... If they want to buy a 5930k because some non-performance reasoning limits their hardware selection fine (great for them. I did it, we all do it once you get high enough in price) but that doesn't mean ANYONE should do it.

 

Besides your current configuration literally works without issue on lane allocation. 16/8/1(chipset)/4.

 

Hell it would still work on pci-e ssd with 8/8/1(chipset)/4/4 (assuming the RVE has the proper configuration options in bios, which it should.)

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You lack imagination.  I have 2 GPUs, a soundcard, and a 10Gbe network card.  5820K wouldn't work due to lane allocation limitations.  Also moreso if I wanted to add a PCI-e based SSD (like a 950 Pro or 750).  I also plan on probably adding a 3rd Titan X, which I'm not even sure I can do due to physical slot limitations.  Would probably need a PCI-e riser board.

 

5930K exists for a reason.

do you even PLX bro?

and I doubt either the 10Gbe or a soundcard requires 16x

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do you even PLX bro?

and I doubt either the 10Gbe or a soundcard requires 16x

The NIC is x8.  Can probably work in x4.  Soundcard is x1 of course, but it still messes with lane allocation like if  it's in a certain slot then another slot drops to x4 or some shit like that.

 

RVE doesn't have a PLX chip in it.  Few mobos do.  Don't think any from a brand that offers cross shipping which is something I need...I can't have any of my systems down for more than a few days.

Workstation:  9800X3D|| Asus X670E ProArt Creator || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || T.Force 7800CL34 || Corsair AX1600i@240V || whole-house loop.

LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 13700K @ Stock || MSI Z690 DDR4 || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop.

Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ P-Core only || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup ||  whole-house loop.

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The NIC is x8.  Can probably work in x4.  Soundcard is x1 of course, but it still messes with lane allocation like if  it's in a certain slot then another slot drops to x4 or some shit like that.

 

RVE doesn't have a PLX chip in it.  Few mobos do.  Don't think any from a brand that offers cross shipping which is something I need...I can't have any of my systems down for more than a few days.

the WS board from ASUS has a PLX that allows all 7 PCI-E x16 slots to run at PCI-E 3.0 x16 x8 x8 x8 x8 x8 x8

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the WS board from ASUS has a PLX that allows all 7 PCI-E x16 slots to run at PCI-E 3.0 x16 x8 x8 x8 x8 x8 x8

No mosfet waterblocks made for it though.  EK doesn't want to touch it because it's such a "rare" product.  Plus I recall reading the BIOS support isn't as good as on the RVE because Asus neglects it.

Workstation:  9800X3D|| Asus X670E ProArt Creator || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || T.Force 7800CL34 || Corsair AX1600i@240V || whole-house loop.

LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 13700K @ Stock || MSI Z690 DDR4 || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop.

Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ P-Core only || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup ||  whole-house loop.

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