CPU 1150 or 1151 ?

[batar1a]

which CPU should I choose for setting up a new computer ??
my options :

- i5-6600K with MSI Z170A Krait Gaming planning to do a white build whit Nox Hummer zx zero edition
or
- i5-4690K whit MSI Z97M GAMING planning to build micro ATX system whit the case Nox Coolbay CX

 

the other parts 
 

-GTX 970 4GB
-SSD M.2
-8GB RAM 
-CPU Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
-power Supply Corsair CX750M 

 

My budget for this build is 1100€ 

Cases links:
micro atx nox coolbay http://www.nox-xtreme.com/producto/coolbay-cx/124/
Atx Nox Hummer Zx Zero http://www.nox-xtreme.com/producto/hummer-zx-zero/147/

[DXMember]

1150 or 2011-v3

[Overkilled]

1150

[Prysin]

1151 or 2011-v3

 

dont bother with 1150

[SeanAngelo]

which CPU should I choose for setting up a new computer ??

my options :

- i5-6600K with MSI Z170A Krait Gaming planning to do a white build whit Nox Hummer zx zero edition

or

- i5-4690K whit MSI Z97M GAMING planning to build micro ATX system whit the case Nox Coolbay CX

 

the other parts 

 

-GTX 970 4GB

-SSD M.2

-8GB RAM 

-CPU Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

-power Supply Corsair CX750M 

 

My budget for this build is 1100€ 

Cases links:

micro atx nox coolbay http://www.nox-xtreme.com/producto/coolbay-cx/124/

Atx Nox Hummer Zx Zero http://www.nox-xtreme.com/producto/hummer-zx-zero/147/

1150 so you can re-use your DDR3 RAM.

[Gerr]

Skylake has a very minor performance increase over the Haswell Refresh CPU's.  It's main bump is in the iGPU, but if you plan on using a dGPU, then that wont apply.  Plus I think I read that Haswell K-series CPU's OC better than the Skylake K-series CPU's, so you might get a better OC with the Haswell chip.  (can anyone confirm/deny this?)

 

As one poster mentioned, if you already have those other parts, then the RAM is likely DDR3 and will only work in the 1150 mobo.  If you are buying everything brand new, then it comes down to cost and are you willing to spend a little more to get the newer hardware.

[Darkseth]

1151 of course. Dont bother with old haswell. Its actually not really cheaper anymore (at least where i live), but inferior.

Skylake is absolutely worth it:

 

- stays cooler

- IS faster (and sometimes you can notice it by 10-40% better min fps in extreme scenarios)

- native m.2 with full 4 lanes

- in general more Lanes

- USB 3.1, with also Type C.

- Uses DDR4. It's not really faster, but you can use higher clockspeeds, and its just the new standart. If you ahve to buy new Ram anyway, go with DDR4 and Skylake, before you waste money on DDR3 (which you WILL have to replace on your next upgrade. On Skylake your next upgrade wont need new Ram)

 

Check it out: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

 

Skylake is a more Modern platform than Haswell (or the haswell refresh "Devil's Canyon") in ANY Way. ONLY take 1150, if you pay much less.

If you still have DDR3, haswell might be an argument.. I personally would sell the DDR3, and go with the newest.

 

 

My personal tip for the Motherboard: Replace the krait gaming for the Asus Z170 Pro Gaming. similar priced, similar quality, but it comes with a USB Typ C port.

[96Evo]

dont get 6600k, get i5 6400 and u need a z170 from msi and asrock then u can oc that cpu. Not worth spending extra for the K.

I would say go for skylake and dont even bother with haswell, the m.2 on skylake provide more bandwidth than z97 so if u gonna use 950 pro, sm951 or predator then u wont have to worry about limitation. you get more pcie lane on z170 than z97 so go for skylake is my advice. get ddr4 will be easier to upgrade later on if u plan to upgrade ur system again. 

[Darkseth]

OC via BCKL is not the best solution. Its more difficult, and alot features will NOT work anymore (Integrated graphic if you need it for emergency, any C-States etc...) So it has its flaws^^

 

But if you're into that more than using the Multiplicator, go for it

[96Evo]

OC via BCKL is not the best solution. Its more difficult, and alot features will NOT work anymore (Integrated graphic if you need it for emergency, any C-States etc...) So it has its flaws^^

 

But if you're into that more than using the Multiplicator, go for it

 

do u even use the igpu if u use a dgpu, if not then I dont see a point of getting a K is a waste of money. and does the C-state even important, I dont think it is important and cant be use for arguement anyway. BCLK is not even difficult. If u havent try it then it is ok for u to assume it is difficult. Well I can treat it as a xeon cpu with no igpu so I dont even care if it has igpu or not, I rather payless and get the most out of my money and saving money. 

 

I dont think u gonna use the igpu  more than ur gpu like 99% of the time anyway, so I dont even bother if it is disable when I oc my cpu and using dgpu. 

[App4that]

do u even use the igpu if u use a dgpu, if not then I dont see a point of getting a K is a waste of money. and does the C-state even important, I dont think it is important and cant be use for arguement anyway. BCLK is not even difficult. If u havent try it then it is ok for u to assume it is difficult.

I'm using my iGPU for the second time. Very useful when between GPUs. But no need to overclock it other than shits n giggles

[96Evo]

I'm using my iGPU for the second time. Very useful when between GPUs. But no need to overclock it other than shits n giggles

Well if u want that then u can do that, I just state my opinion and it all depend on the person.

you may want to spend more and I want to spendless. whether u oc on that chip or not u still have option same as 6600k.

 

you may use ur igpu and dgpu often but the other might not. So yeah let the buyer decide, I only listed option available. 

[App4that]

Well if u want that then u can do that, I just state my opinion and it all depend on the person.

you may want to spend more and I want to spendless. whether u oc on that chip or not u still have option same as 6600k.

you may use ur igpu and dgpu often but the other might not. So yeah let the buyer decide, I only listed option available.

Totally. I wouldn't want to use a Xeon and be screwed right now because I don't have a GPU. But the 6400 has a bad ass iGPU.

[96Evo]

Totally. I wouldn't want to use a Xeon and be screwed right now because I don't have a GPU. But the 6400 has a bad ass iGPU.

well yeah, u can always test to see if shyt work before oc anyway. you can revert it if anything happen. 

For xeon unless u go xtreme X3. I use an oc 6500, so yeah. it kicked my i7 in single thread stuff

 

if u want to oc and use igpu then the K is the choice and u pay for the premium.

[wich23]

You can use DDR3 RAM with Skylake if you use Mobos like these ones http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/overall-list/#s=30&c=110&L=3 but DDR4 will probably not work later

[abhigyan001]

Get 1151, Skylake isn't that bad after all. 1151 will give you future proofing and DDR4. Moreover, Skylake is more power efficient.

[Darkseth]

do u even use the igpu if u use a dgpu, if not then I dont see a point of getting a K is a waste of money. and does the C-state even important, I dont think it is important and cant be use for arguement anyway. BCLK is not even difficult. If u havent try it then it is ok for u to assume it is difficult. Well I can treat it as a xeon cpu with no igpu so I dont even care if it has igpu or not, I rather payless and get the most out of my money and saving money. 

 

I dont think u gonna use the igpu  more than ur gpu like 99% of the time anyway, so I dont even bother if it is disable when I oc my cpu and using dgpu. 

Its more for emergency uses, if your dgpu breaks for some reason  (But well, you can just reset the uefi for that...)

 

I OCed with BCKL before, but only on my old Lynnfield CPU.

 

But sure, your arguments are completely valid^^ Just thought i would mention the flaws, if they matter for anyone.

[Tytan64]

I run on i5 4690K and it's not bottlenecking any of my games.

The worst games for my system are The Witcher 3 and Crysis 3 I believe. 

Otherwise I mainly play DOTA 2 and Dark Souls II. Those aren't very CPU intense I believe.

Ofcourse this CPU is overclocked to 4.5GHz! (1.200V core voltage, 100MHz base clock and 45 multiplier)

I can hardly imagine you'd notice any real world performance increase in gaming by choosing Skylake over Haskell at the moment.

This count's only for comparable CPUs

The motherboard to that is an ASUS Z97-P if this is important to you ^^

I suggest going for what is cheaper for you!

An i5 4690K and a ASUS Z97-P cost 346€ where I live and an i5 6600K and a ASUS Z170-P D3 cost 364€.

So Skylake would cost only 5,2% more but would offer a theoretical 10% performance increase and less power consumption.

It's up to you to decide now

[App4that]

I run on i5 4690K and it's not bottlenecking any of my games.

The worst games for my system are The Witcher 3 and Crysis 3 I believe. 

Otherwise I mainly play DOTA 2 and Dark Souls II. Those aren't very CPU intense I believe.

Ofcourse this CPU is overclocked to 4.5GHz! (1.200V core voltage, 100MHz base clock and 45 multiplier)

I can hardly imagine you'd notice any real world performance increase in gaming by choosing Skylake over Haskell at the moment.

This count's only for comparable CPUs

The motherboard to that is an ASUS Z97-P if this is important to you ^^

I suggest going for what is cheaper for you!

An i5 4690K and a ASUS Z97-P cost 346€ where I live and an i5 6600K and a ASUS Z170-P D3 cost 364€.

So Skylake would cost only 5,2% more but would offer a theoretical 10% performance increase and less power consumption.

It's up to you to decide now

You haven't played the right games. Fallout 4, your 4690k will run crying to it's mommy Intel. Same with Cities Skylines once your population get big enough. Games are starting to utilize more than 4 threads. DX12 is going to widen the gap between a i5 and a i7.

[Tytan64]

You haven't played the right games. Fallout 4, your 4690k will run crying to it's mommy Intel. Same with Cities Skylines once your population get big enough. Games are starting to utilize more than 4 threads. DX12 is going to widen the gap between a i5 and a i7.

 

I remember that discussion  :lol:

If he's going for an i7 I'd definitely go for an i7 4790K instead of the i7 6700K because of the huge price difference.

But I remember he's on a budget so i7 is not an option here I guess.

I wish I could get a demo for one of those games so I could see my system cry ...

[App4that]

I remember that discussion  :lol:

If he's going for an i7 I'd definitely go for an i7 4790K instead of the i7 6700K because of the huge price difference.

But I remember he's on a budget so i7 is not an option here I guess.

I wish I could get a demo for one of those games so I could see my system cry ...

I'd go 6400 and a Z170 board. You can overclock the 6400 and upgrade to a 6700k down the line when the prices aren't insane. :lol:

 

And no you don't, still growing my hair back from that hair pulling experience.

[batar1a]

1151 of course. Dont bother with old haswell. Its actually not really cheaper anymore (at least where i live), but inferior.

Skylake is absolutely worth it:

 

- stays cooler

- IS faster (and sometimes you can notice it by 10-40% better min fps in extreme scenarios)

- native m.2 with full 4 lanes

- in general more Lanes

- USB 3.1, with also Type C.

- Uses DDR4. It's not really faster, but you can use higher clockspeeds, and its just the new standart. If you ahve to buy new Ram anyway, go with DDR4 and Skylake, before you waste money on DDR3 (which you WILL have to replace on your next upgrade. On Skylake your next upgrade wont need new Ram)

 

Check it out: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

 

Skylake is a more Modern platform than Haswell (or the haswell refresh "Devil's Canyon") in ANY Way. ONLY take 1150, if you pay much less.

If you still have DDR3, haswell might be an argument.. I personally would sell the DDR3, and go with the newest.

 

 

My personal tip for the Motherboard: Replace the krait gaming for the Asus Z170 Pro Gaming. similar priced, similar quality, but it comes with a USB Typ C port.

where the price of the CPUs is i5-4690K =249.90€  the i5-6600K = 279.90€

[Jumper118]

I'd go 6400 and a Z170 board. You can overclock the 6400 and upgrade to a 6700k down the line when the prices aren't insane. :lol:

 

And no you don't, still growing my hair back from that hair pulling experience.

this^ also z170 will support the next intel cpus as well. 

[v0id]

Skylake is of course the better option, but so many people slamming Haswell as if it's a dead technology already. We got people still using Sandy Bridge without complaint, I doubt it's going away any time soon. It's still good tech. OP, do what you can afford and if possible spring for Skylake, but don't throw the Haswell option away for fear of it being 'inferior' to the mighty giant of Skylake; it'll suit your average gamer just fine, if you happen to fall into that category that is. 

 

Just my two cents, take it for what it's worth.