Internet 2.0

[Cosmos_i7]

Hey guys,

I was wondering what you guys think of this. With all of the surveillance stuff going on and with the current state the Internet is in what do you think of making an Internet 2.0?

All websites will have to migrate and it will not be backwards compatible since that defeats the purpose, maybe set a restriction on minimum Internet speeds for better content. Also it will be secure and encrypted everywhere.

Those are my thoughts, I'm wondering what you guys think. I think this will be an interesting discussion.

[Damikiller37]

Internet speed will definitely be a thing. I imagine websites being more like applications with complex functions and animations making it seem a lot more fluid that the sites we currently have. They will have various integrated features which you would expect from an application or a program. In general a lot more appealing to an eye and advanced.

[Hazy125]

Setting a restriction on minimum internet speeds, no, that might not be the best idea... I'd never be allowed to connect

[Lays]

why are so many people spazzing about being spied on.. who cares if they get to see what fetish you have.

[kotekking2]

I don't care if I'm being spied, but I would really like faster Internet. It's ridiculous that I have to wait hours to download something.

[Cosmos_i7]

why are so many people spazzing about being spied on.. who cares if they get to see what fetish you have.

I could link you to many articles explaining why it's bad but in short it's about privacy. I'm sure you close your curtains and lock your doors. But you have nothing to hide right?

[Cosmos_i7]

I don't care if I'm being spied, but I would really like faster Internet. It's ridiculous that I have to wait hours to download something.

  

Internet speed will definitely be a thing. I imagine websites being more like applications with complex functions and animations making it seem a lot more fluid that the sites we currently have. They will have various integrated features which you would expect from an application or a program. In general a lot more appealing to an eye and advanced.

  

Setting a restriction on minimum internet speeds, no, that might not be the best idea... I'd never be allowed to connect

It would mean that websites can be more complex and produce more data. I know some guys in the US have not the greatest Internet so obviously a compromise will have to be made. But honestly this is just a thought for now. Sooner or later I think the infrastructure over there will sort itself out. Gotta love my 120mbps Internet though here in the UK!

[Hazy125]

It would mean that websites can be more complex and produce more data. I know some guys in the US have not the greatest Internet so obviously a compromise will have to be made. But honestly this is just a thought for now. Sooner or later I think the infrastructure over there will sort itself out. Gotta love my 120mbps Internet though here in the UK!

Well, the US is one thing. I'm in Australia... Yeah. Unless I pay for business connections I can't get a good speed in the specific area I live. The business connections can cost up to 700 a month.

[tom564]

Hey guys,

I was wondering what you guys think of this. With all of the surveillance stuff going on and with the current state the Internet is in what do you think of making an Internet 2.0?

All websites will have to migrate and it will not be backwards compatible since that defeats the purpose, maybe set a restriction on minimum Internet speeds for better content. Also it will be secure and encrypted everywhere.

Those are my thoughts, I'm wondering what you guys think. I think this will be an interesting discussion.

But then all the government needs to do is order the end point (website owner) to provide a way for them to intercept traffic. Even things like tor have government owned exit nodes that log data. 

[Guest]

I'm not touching this with a 10ft pole all I have to say is what did people expect to happen when a bill like SOPA failed? The government doesn't just drop it if it doesn't work, they're like a spoiled kid they have to have it their way.

[Cosmos_i7]

But then all the government needs to do is order the end point (website owner) to provide a way for them to intercept traffic. Even things like tor have government owned exit nodes that log data.

One can dream though. I know this will never make it beyond this forum but hey it's just a whacky thought. I know nothing is 100% private but oh well

[Lays]

I could link you to many articles explaining why it's bad but in short it's about privacy. I'm sure you close your curtains and lock your doors. But you have nothing to hide right?

 

 

I don't care if the government see's what I do because the crap I do i'm ok with lol. Locking your door has nothing to do with it, the government isn't going to break into my house and steal my crap

 

Idk why people make such a big deal out of it, they've probably been spying on us for decades without us knowing

[Cosmos_i7]

Well, the US is one thing. I'm in Australia... Yeah. Unless I pay for business connections I can't get a good speed in the specific area I live. The business connections can cost up to 700 a month.

You guys in Austrailia have it the worst, I heard you get ripped off on almost everything to do with technology! I really do feel sorry for you guys.

[Cryptonite]

Hey guys,

I was wondering what you guys think of this. With all of the surveillance stuff going on and with the current state the Internet is in what do you think of making an Internet 2.0?

All websites will have to migrate and it will not be backwards compatible since that defeats the purpose, maybe set a restriction on minimum Internet speeds for better content. Also it will be secure and encrypted everywhere.

Those are my thoughts, I'm wondering what you guys think. I think this will be an interesting discussion.

This post makes no sense, all the internet is is the connection from computer to computer, it's basically an extension of your lan cable to  a hub that connects everyone else while your browser allows you to share this info, it depends solely on the site owner and individual if they want stuff encrypted or not.

 

internet 2.0 isn't a thing.

[Hazy125]

You guys in Austrailia have it the worst, I heard you get ripped off on almost everything to do with technology! I really do feel sorry for you guys.

We get the benefits of all the things I personally don't care about, great healthcare and such. Our prisoners are treated well. Also, we have a massive country with not many people in it, it's not really possible to not get ripped off on technology. Also, because of these things it's not just tech, it's things like food and furniture and everything that needs to be bought

[Cryptonite]

We get the benefits of all the things I personally don't care about, great healthcare and such. Our prisoners are treated well. Also, we have a massive country with not many people in it, it's not really possible to not get ripped off on technology. Also, because of these things it's not just tech, it's things like food and furniture and everything that needs to be bought

You're still better off than South Africa, I have relatives living in Aus.

[Blade of Grass]

This post makes no sense, all the internet is is the connection from computer to computer, it's basically an extension of your lan cable to  a hub that connects everyone else while your browser allows you to share this info, it depends solely on the site owner and individual if they want stuff encrypted or not.

 

internet 2.0 isn't a thing.

Yep, people need to understand that the internet is just the connection between the networks. It doesn't have anything to do with anything else, just connecting the network of networks to other networks.

 

OP: You're basically saying "let's rebuild everything related to networks", you'd have to lay all new cable, make all new switching stations, you'd have to run all the underground cable again.  You'd also have invent new protocols that are built around encrypt and you'd have to introduce a verification system that tests everyones connection when they join.

While we're at it, we should rebuild all the governments, it would probably be easier.

[Hazy125]

You're still better off than South Africa, I have relatives living in Aus.

Definitely. I'm complaining about stupid things, first world problems like "my free healthcare makes my chewing gum cost an extra 2 cents"

[Cosmos_i7]

Yep, people need to understand that the internet is just the connection between the networks. It doesn't have anything to do with anything else, just connecting the network of networks to other networks.

 

OP: You're basically saying "let's rebuild everything related to networks", you'd have to lay all new cable, make all new switching stations, you'd have to run all the underground cable again.  You'd also have invent new protocols that are built around encrypt and you'd have to introduce a verification system that tests everyones connection when they join.

While we're at it, we should rebuild all the governments, it would probably be easier.

Yes you're completely correct. As I said its not possible to do so its more of a concept and who knows it may be required. But look how far 10 years has brought the Internet. I know it's pretty impossible. It's just a though and discussion topic.

[zip2k4]

why are so many people spazzing about being spied on.. who cares if they get to see what fetish you have.

 

what if they like what i'm looking at and came by to perform such thing to me? D:

 

watching pcbs being soldered on is a private thing

 

but yea, it is practically impossible to have "internet 2.0"

 

but the idea is pretty neat

[Blade of Grass]

Yes you're completely correct. As I said its not possible to do so its more of a concept and who knows it may be required. But look how far 10 years has brought the Internet. I know it's pretty impossible. It's just a though and discussion topic.

But the point I was trying to make earlier in the post is the fact that a network is just a network, the connection of devices. It doesn't do anything but connect things. It's the things on the network that cause all these issues. Even on your secure encrypted network I can still put DPI and things to record everything, then compare it to rainbow tables to "decode" everything. 

 

It's a cool idea to thing about, but it won't really work the way you think.

[Lays]

what if they like what i'm looking at and came by to perform such thing to me? D:

 

watching pcbs being soldered on is a private thing

 

but yea, it is practically impossible to have "internet 2.0"

 

but the idea is pretty neat

 

 

lol FBI shows up at your house with some sexy officer lady  "hello i see you like putting your peen into people's ears eh? well I'm all ears!"

[zip2k4]

lol FBI shows up at your house with some sexy officer lady  "hello i see you like putting your peen into people's ears eh? well I'm all ears!"

 

well i don't mind that i guess, as long as there's no criminal record after what could ensue :3

[ProGearUk]

I know the spying is annoying but they do not care unless you are doing something wrong. WHo cares if they know that you watch too much porn

[LAwLz]

Well like some other people have already pointed out, you can't really create an "Internet 2.0" because "The Internet" is simply a global network. It's like saying:

With all the car crashes and speed camera going on recently, why not build Road 2.0? All cars would have to migrate and it will not be compatible with current roads since that defeats the purpose.

 
Anyway, Tor is probably something like what you're thinking of OP. It's a network that runs over The Internet, fully encrypted and anonymous. It uses their own DNS servers and "onion routing". It's very misused and slow though, so it's not worth using unless anonymity is very important (like if you are a whistleblower).