64bit... or 32bit...

[Epicpwn343]

So my prebuilt pc has ALMOST every part compatible for 64-bit, EXCEPT the all important cpu. 

 

Should i get a new CPU and run 64bit or should i just let it chill and do nothing. 

[manikyath]

wait, what cpu in the world is 32bit these days? both intel and amd have been exclusively 64-bit since the P4 / athlon 64 days afaik...

[AllHokage]

New CPU at 64.

[vanished]

If your prebuilt has a 32 bit CPU, you need to throw it out the window and buy a computer from this decade

[manikyath]

If your prebuilt has a 32 bit CPU, you need to throw it out the window and buy a computer from this decade

from this century*

[Flibbib]

Lol dat 4Gb RAM

[SeanAngelo]

So my prebuilt pc has ALMOST every part compatible for 64-bit, EXCEPT the all important cpu. 

 

Should i get a new CPU and run 64bit or should i just let it chill and do nothing. 

Get a CPU. 32bit CPU's are old as hell.

[vanished]

from this century*

I was going to say that (actually I was going to use millennium since right now it's the same thing) but there were 32 bit CPUs in 2001

[CommandMan7]

Are you sure you just aren't using a 32 bit windows? 

[VAkena]

So my prebuilt pc has ALMOST every part compatible for 64-bit, EXCEPT the all important cpu. 

 

Should i get a new CPU and run 64bit or should i just let it chill and do nothing. 

I've found out something very interesting, my old laptop used to be 32bit but once I installed 64bit Windows 10 (via bootable USB), it converted to a 64bit OS. Just thought I should share, you may want to give it a go.

[vanished]

I've found out something very interesting, my old laptop used to be 32bit but once I installed 64bit Windows 10 (via bootable USB), it converted to a 64bit OS. Just thought I should share, you may want to give it a go.

Then the laptop was never 32 bit.  You just had 32 bit windows installed for some reason

[boardinwelts]

So my prebuilt pc has ALMOST every part compatible for 64-bit, EXCEPT the all important cpu. 

 

Should i get a new CPU and run 64bit or should i just let it chill and do nothing. 

Others have made it obvious that you should buy a 64 bit processor, so that's clear. But just make sure that when you do so, you find a 64 bit processor that has the same socket type (not sure exactly what cpu/brand/socket you currently have on that prebuilt)

[GDRRiley]

from this century*

True

[VAkena]

Then the laptop was never 32 bit.  You just had 32 bit windows installed for some reason

Hmmm, you may be right. 

[manikyath]

I was going to say that (actually I was going to use millennium since right now it's the same thing) but there were 32 bit CPUs in 2001

athlon 64 (which off the top of my head is the first 64bit one) was launched in 2003

I've found out something very interesting, my old laptop used to be 32bit but once I installed 64bit Windows 10 (via bootable USB), it converted to a 64bit OS. Just thought I should share, you may want to give it a go.

Then the laptop was never 32 bit.  You just had 32 bit windows installed for some reason

for a while it was common practisce to install 32-bit OSes on 64-bit compatible machines, because we didnt have the means of more than 4GB ram either way, and there was nothing in the end user space that made use of the 64-bit space.

 

even today a lot of software still isnt 64-bit. truth is a lot of it doesnt need to be. 64-bit OSes only happened because of the 4GB thing.

[vanished]

athlon 64 (which off the top of my head is the first 64bit one) was launched in 2003

 

could be actually, I know the dual core version was 2006 or so and that was 64 bit... good call

 

even today a lot of software still isnt 64-bit. truth is a lot of it doesnt need to be. 64-bit OSes only happened because of the 4GB thing.

 

I know.  I ran 32 bit Win XP on my 3800+.  Still bothered me though

[manikyath]

could be actually, I know the dual core version was 2006 or so and that was 64 bit... good call

 

 

I know.  I ran 32 bit Win XP on my 3800+.  Still bothered me though

i should actually do some testing on my athlon 64 to see how it compares in speed between 32 bit and 64 bit OS.

i dont have a working OS on it either way, since winderk refuses to validate my windows server key after a reinstall (install was beyond corrupt after the exact same machine caught fire about 1.5 year ago)

[manikyath]

Others have made it obvious that you should buy a 64 bit processor, so that's clear. But just make sure that when you do so, you find a 64 bit processor that has the same socket type (not sure exactly what cpu/brand/socket you currently have on that prebuilt)

actually, that may be more of a problem than you think.

i had a -hardware compatible- 64 bit machine with a 32 bit OS.

it ran mostly fine for the state of broken it was in, but in my testing i've noticed the machine ran considerably hotter on a 64-bit OS, than it did on a 32-bit OS.

 

and thats not processor, thats motherboard component temps.

[Godlygamer23]

What CPU are you currently using that's 32-bit only?

[vanished]

i should actually do some testing on my athlon 64 to see how it compares in speed between 32 bit and 64 bit OS.

i dont have a working OS on it either way, since winderk refuses to validate my windows server key after a reinstall (install was beyond corrupt after the exact same machine caught fire about 1.5 year ago)

Apparently (too young to have first hand experience, but I've heard) the switch from 16 to 32 bit caused noticeable performance issues while "thunking" (running 16 bit stuff on 32 bit) but afaik there is virtually no measurable performance difference for 32 to 64, or at least it's so little these days no one would care.

[manikyath]

Apparently (too young to have first hand experience, but I've heard) the switch from 16 to 32 bit caused noticeable performance issues while "thunking" (running 16 bit stuff on 32 bit) but afaik there is virtually no measurable performance difference for 32 to 64, or at least it's so little these days no one would care.

i have a 1995 win98 machine (possibly orginally a win3.1 no one really remembers, its from before company inventorizing was required), and let me tell you that from my experience with the box's guts, no one really cared about any form of optimization like we do today...

[vanished]

i have a 1995 win98 machine (possibly orginally a win3.1 no one really remembers, its from before company inventorizing was required), and let me tell you that from my experience with the box's guts, no one really cared about any form of optimization like we do today...

 

Interesting; I've generally gotten the opposite impression over the years - that optimization and efficiency were taken seriously back in the day, but as hardware advanced, people have gotten lazy.

[manikyath]

Interesting; I've generally gotten the opposite impression over the years - that optimization and efficiency were taken seriously back in the day, but as hardware advanced, people have gotten lazy.

i had connectors criss-crossing over other connectors, wires stuffed in the cpu fan, underclocked, a god awful efficiency power supply, etc.

 

the software situation on the thing was quite horrid as well... might just be bad IT management, but i am honestly surprised i didnt need to reinstall the box (which i'm pretty sure i did at some point...)

[vanished]

i had connectors criss-crossing over other connectors, wires stuffed in the cpu fan, underclocked, a god awful efficiency power supply, etc.

 

Oh, ewll yes of course computers today are vastly better cable managed and more spacious  I was thinking more the software/programming side of things

[manikyath]

Oh, ewll yes of course computers today are vastly better cable managed and more spacious  I was thinking more the software/programming side of things

eh.. half of the stuff going on on the box was batchfiles talking to other batchfiles talking to a remote server answering to more batchfiles...