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Gtx 970/780ti and open air cooler in low airflow case.

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I have a reference 780 ti in my rig right now and a family member bought an msi 970 w/ cooler. 

However, he will not be using it for a few weeks, so I have the opportunity to play around with it.

my question is this:

 

1) the 970 and 780 ti seem close in performance, however, I'm reading the 970 can overclock further and runs cooler. My 780 ti also doesn't OC very well. Would I notice any difference in fps with a 970?

 

2) I'm using a define r5 case with the included 2 fans as intake and an h80 cooler as exhaust, considering how restricted they are, it doesn't seem like they move a lot of air. Would there be any ventilation problems in the case with an open air gpu cooler? 

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780 Ti is a superior card

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No, not worth the swap.

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Really depends on the game. Im most cases they will be pretty similar, but in games like witcher 3 the maxwell cards pull ahead. One the other side of the card, the 780ti recks in games like crysis 3 which look at "raw performance."

 

My card with a balls to the wall OC gets a little over 14,000 for graphics on firestrike, and a moderately overclocked 970 gets around 13,700 so the gap is not very large.

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780 Ti is a superior card

No.. It's not... Early In the 970's lifespan It performed better but not anymore, Its not so much that Its worth the upgrade however...

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No.. It's not... Early In the 970's lifespan It performed better but not anymore, Its not so much that Its worth the upgrade however...

Because Nvidia abandon their older cards as soon as the new ones hit the shelves :)

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Because Nvidia abandon their older cards as soon as the new ones hit the shelves :)

Such is the ways of buying a 2 year old top end card, and hoping for it to last a while.

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Such is the ways of buying a 2 year old top end card, and hoping for it to last a while.

7970 is still doing fine. So is the 290X

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7970 is still doing fine. So is the 290X

It has held up well, but it's just that I still use the "max everything" mentality that I had with my 1080p monitor, and the 780ti can't really do that on 1440p.

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It has held up well, but it's just that I still use the "max everything" mentality that I had with my 1080p monitor, and the 780ti can't really do that on 1440p.

7970 can almost do it

290X can

780 Ti can't :P

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Because Nvidia abandon their older cards as soon as the new ones hit the shelves :)

Fair :P But again, the difference between them Is minor.

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7970 can almost do it

290X can

780 Ti can't :P

Doesn't make sense why the 780 Ti can't beat a 970, if you ask me (Don't mind me, I'm still really bitter about Nvidia ditching Kepler cards while AMD never gave up on the 290X and hell... even their 7XXX lineup to a certain degree)

AMD VS Nvidia = A lost mail man that will do whatever it takes to give you your mail... despite being a few days late... and never realizing that the house that the mail is for was pretty much the first house he started from VS A well dressed, well groomed, well cleaned, and cologned-up donger that just wiggles itself and is the type of guy that makes after-parties a nightmare. Basically its: An idiot that tries VS a jerk that ruins every after-party. Pick your poison.

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Fair :P But again, the difference between them Is minor.

780 Ti should be 5fps faster, not 10fps slower - that's 960-levels lol

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780 Ti should be 5fps faster, not 10fps slower - that's 960-levels lol

I'm... gonna go grab a cigarette... maybe a shot of whisky while I'm at it.

AMD VS Nvidia = A lost mail man that will do whatever it takes to give you your mail... despite being a few days late... and never realizing that the house that the mail is for was pretty much the first house he started from VS A well dressed, well groomed, well cleaned, and cologned-up donger that just wiggles itself and is the type of guy that makes after-parties a nightmare. Basically its: An idiot that tries VS a jerk that ruins every after-party. Pick your poison.

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Doesn't make sense why the 780 Ti can't beat a 970, if you ask me (Don't mind me, I'm still really bitter about Nvidia ditching Kepler cards while AMD never gave up on the 290X and hell... even their 7XXX lineup to a certain degree)

Its just that the 780 ti is just sort of brute force with nearly 3000 cuda cores, but the new Kepler architecture can do a lot more with less cores. The 980ti has nearly the same amount of cuda cores, but is pretty much twice as fast in synthetics.

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