Nvidia vs AMD

[Patrick Bateman]

Agreed, GeForce Experience sucks balls.

For me, personally, all I care about is game performance NOW and in the relatively near future. For example, AMD is the better prospect, as its superior asynchronous compute performance and general compute performance seems to be a massive advantage in preliminary DX12 benchmarks, something I hope Nvidia's upcoming Pascal architecture addresses. For every feature from one vendor there is usually an equivalent or similar from the other (with the exception of Nvidia GameStream). 

i mean i kinda need geforce experience.. i know it sucks but shadowplay comes with it

[Messisan321]

Is AMD planning to make something equlivant to shadowplay or nah?

[Ddave]

Odd - shouldn't be crashing - unstable OC?

 

It's running on stock.

IIRC, the programs running are Steam, Chrome, and Photoshop CS3.

I was showing my brother how 1080p will compare to 1366x768.

Then I ran Trixx. Just when Trixx was about to show-up(it was already visible but is still transparent), the monitor froze.

 

Move the mouse, ctrl+shift+esc, ctrl+alt+del. Nothing. So I just pressed the reset button.

[NoTrollOK]

I buy cards based in which has the best performance when overclocked and stays quiet at the same time. Thus cards with little power consunption are preferable.

And ever since the introduction of Kepler, nvidia was leading in that segment. If AMD was to come out with compelling alternatives again, like they used to in the early Fermi days, I'd go for team red.

Software wise both conpanies have fucked up some itterations of their driver. unless you want to use a variable refresh rate technology the software features of both teams make next to no difference in real world gaming. G-sync still seems to be ahead of freesync though, at least the last time i checked.

No,FreeSync input lag is lower than G-Sync you know. Linus has make a video about that. Just search for FreeSync vs G-Sync.

[NoTrollOK]

It's running on stock.

IIRC, the programs running are Steam, Chrome, and Photoshop CS3.

I was showing my brother how 1080p will compare to 1366x768.

Then I ran Trixx. Just when Trixx was about to show-up(it was already visible but is still transparent), the monitor froze.

Move the mouse, ctrl+shift+esc, ctrl+alt+del. Nothing. So I just pressed the reset button.

Maybe AMD make VSR for 1080p higher.Maybe.

[S_S_D]

oh so when i ask that it gets locked

[Morgan MLGman]

i mean i kinda need geforce experience.. i know it sucks but shadowplay comes with it

But there are other, third-party recording apps, that are in fact better than the shadowplay

[manikyath]

what AMD card did you use??

ive used a 7950 with a samsung 32" TV for a couple of years, no issues. colors display correctly. Refresh rate behaves correctly...

i am genuinly interested. because neither my Tahiti based 7950 (280) nor my R9 295x2 (dual 290x) has had any issues with my Samsung TV. And yes, it is a proper TV, albeit small screen size.

its a very isolated case, down to the exact run of TVs i have on my desk. theres a "production flaw" in them that makes them uncapable of processing the entire 60Hz smoothly, getting up to two seconds input latency. dropping the refresh rate down to 59.7 brings that down to like.. 100ms i'd say. if i go any lower it just refuses to display all together.

 

but yeah, i got it for free, i'm not complaining.

[ivan134]

I buy cards based in which has the best performance when overclocked and stays quiet at the same time. Thus cards with little power consunption are preferable.

And ever since the introduction of Kepler, nvidia was leading in that segment. If AMD was to come out with compelling alternatives again, like they used to in the early Fermi days, I'd go for team red.

Software wise both conpanies have fucked up some itterations of their driver. unless you want to use a variable refresh rate technology the software features of both teams make next to no difference in real world gaming. G-sync still seems to be ahead of freesync though, at least the last time i checked.

Lol, what? It's amazing that this myth is still being perpetuated. I see that people still think TDP is power consumption.

 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Is AMD planning to make something equlivant to shadowplay or nah?

 

You'd be surprised to know that they already have one. And pretty long ago as well.  

[App4that]

when was the last time you used CF?

ive used it for 3+ years, no real issues other then slow drivers at times (generally 1-2 weeks waiting time on average. which is fine with me since most games are halfway broken the first week, before the devs patch stuff)

Tried using it last night. Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Mechwarrior. All with multiple settings and profiles. Mechwarrior was the worst as it refused to not use both cards, no matter the settings. When I set it to windowed to force it to use one card I only got 70% of the information on the screen.

Ive had two cards for months and have yet to find one game where I get an improvement using two cards. 90% of the time crossfire causes shuttering and a decrease in fps.

[xAcid9]

Tried using it last night. Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Mechwarrior. 

Gameworks, Gameworks, Gameworks. You better swap the cards with Nvidia equivalent.

[App4that]

Gameworks, Gameworks, Gameworks. You better swap the cards with Nvidia equivalent.

Thought about it, seriously thought about it. I could sell both cards and get a 980 easy(I'd add some of my savings), problem is a 980 barely out performs my 390. So I'd have roughly the same performance after all that. I could really throw down and get a 980ti, but at 1080p? I'd got to nerd hell. Still a bit lost on how to fix it. And I take responsibility for having shit taste in games lol

[Messisan321]

You'd be surprised to know that they already have one. And pretty long ago as well.  

Really? what is it called and is it any good as shadowplay?

[Prysin]

Tried using it last night. Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Mechwarrior. All with multiple settings and profiles. Mechwarrior was the worst as it refused to not use both cards, no matter the settings. When I set it to windowed to force it to use one card I only got 70% of the information on the screen.

Ive had two cards for months and have yet to find one game where I get an improvement using two cards. 90% of the time crossfire causes shuttering and a decrease in fps.

so you got a 290 + 390.... that is probably why. even though it should, in theory, not matter. It may matter after all, seeing as the 390 is clocked slightly higher on memory and core, and it will force itself to run slower unless you manually tune both to the same clocks.

 

also, may be because you got one 8GB VRAM card and one 4GB VRAM one....

 

as i said, shouldnt matter. But it may just do.

 

do you run ALL your games in FULLSCREEN?

because windowed fullscreen/borderless fullscreen does NOT work with CF (yet. Nvidia managed to make it work recently and i applaud them for that. about damn time.... so AMD should follow suit soon enough).

 

 

my 295x2 works fine in Witcher 3. havent tried Fallout 4 and i wont. never liked the concept behind the series. Mechwarrior... well, havent tried that one either, but if it is cheap on steam, i may buy it just to test it out...

 

Try run Tomb Raider 2013. AMD game through and through. That game has rock solid CF profiles. If you have any issues AT ALL. then that game is sure to reveal them.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Really? what is it called and is it any good as shadowplay?

 

The names changed alot of times. Right now it should be called highlight clips. Used to be called replay or GVR or smth smth. Records up to 20mins of gameplay. The methods are about the same. 

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[App4that]

so you got a 290 + 390.... that is probably why. even though it should, in theory, not matter. It may matter after all, seeing as the 390 is clocked slightly higher on memory and core, and it will force itself to run slower unless you manually tune both to the same clocks.

also, may be because you got one 8GB VRAM card and one 4GB VRAM one....

as i said, shouldnt matter. But it may just do.

do you run ALL your games in FULLSCREEN?

because windowed fullscreen/borderless fullscreen does NOT work with CF (yet. Nvidia managed to make it work recently and i applaud them for that. about damn time.... so AMD should follow suit soon enough).

my 295x2 works fine in Witcher 3. havent tried Fallout 4 and i wont. never liked the concept behind the series. Mechwarrior... well, havent tried that one either, but if it is cheap on steam, i may buy it just to test it out...

Try run Tomb Raider 2013. AMD game through and through. That game has rock solid CF profiles. If you have any issues AT ALL. then that game is sure to reveal them.

I run both at 1050 core and 1450 memory, doesn't matter. In a synthetic benchmark they scale beautifully, try playing a game and they trip over each other. I always play on full screen.

Mechwarrior is free, and a shit ton of fun. From what I hear the Crysis 3 profile should work, but I get horrible performance with it.

My patience has a limit, and I'm close to selling both. 100% because of crossfire, not the 390s performance which has been great.

[KamiKatze]

No,FreeSync input lag is lower than G-Sync you know. Linus has make a video about that. Just search for FreeSync vs G-Sync.

 

idk if its that much of a difference? How many ms? Freesync only works above 45 FPS if i remember correctly, which is frankly much less usefull than G-sync.

[Quadlazer]

What is everyone's favorite, constantly updated chart of gpu performance for modern games? Does Linus have one somewhere? Tomshardware?

[WangKe]

Well, the driver stuff seems untrue, let's take a 2 years old 780Ti into consideration, the driver support for a 710$ card barely 2 years ago is terrible and it's getting smashed by a GTX 970 that's half its price cause Nvidia decided to fuck Kepler and only optimize well for Maxwell.

Now look at my R9 290X, it's also 2 years old and it actually gets better with every driver update to the point when I beat a GTX 980 score in userbenchmark not to mention it's faster than GTX 780Ti, GTX 970 etc.

When Pascal comes out, there just as well might be the same situation when a GTX 980Ti will get beaten by equivalent to a GTX 1070 for half its price.

When I saw a 290X maturing to the point of even doing things like that, I give Nvidia a middle finger. My wallet also sent its regards. It showed that AMD never gave up and still kept pushing.

Back then, I'd give AMD an A for effort and thats just about it. Now, I give Nvidia an F because, I mean, come on. They essentially gave Kepler cards faux drivers (drivers for the sake of saying "here's your new driver, sir" and then laughing at you as you turn your back. So, yeah, I'm just calling the new drivers as faux drivers because they don't do much compared to what Maxwell cards and the 290X are enjoying) and.... yeah.

I chose Nvidia at that time because I wanted a Titan killer and I was so close to picking the 290X... until Nvidia came with the 780Ti... I wish I went red that time.

[App4that]

What is everyone's favorite, constantly updated chart of gpu performance for modern games? Does Linus have one somewhere? Tomshardware?

Charts are biased, way too many variables. Do you get the fps you want using the settings you want. That's not biased. But Digital Foundry has really good video's, but 90% of them are outdated because of drivers that changed the results.

[Morgan MLGman]

When I saw a 290X maturing to the point of even doing things like that, I give Nvidia a middle finger. My wallet also sent its regards. It showed that AMD never gave up and still kept pushing.

Back then, I'd give AMD an A for effort and thats just about it. Now, I give Nvidia an F because, I mean, come on. They essentially gave Kepler cards faux drivers (drivers for the sake of saying "here's your new driver, sir" and then laughing at you as you turn your back. So, yeah, I'm just calling the new drivers as faux drivers because they don't do much compared to what Maxwell cards and the 290X are enjoying) and.... yeah.

I chose Nvidia at that time because I wanted a Titan killer and I was so close to picking the 290X... until Nvidia came with the 780Ti... I wish I went red that time.

Yeah, AMD really stepped their GPU game up, not to mention that there basically are no bad early DX12 benchmarks for AMD GPUs, I wish I could say the same of Nvidia's.

[PlayStation 2]

I have a personal preference towards AMD which sadly gets in the way of quite a bit. Either way, it's whatever the budget allows, what you do, and your preferences.

 

Nvidia, admittedly, has had better 3D support and more constant driver updates, but AMD has significantly better dual GPU, multi-monitor, and better general driver updates. Also, you typically aren't assed out on driver updates on AMD's GPUs, because they typically go on for four to six years.

[App4that]

I have a personal preference towards AMD which sadly gets in the way of quite a bit. Either way, it's whatever the budget allows, what you do, and your preferences.

 

Nvidia, admittedly, has had better 3D support and more constant driver updates, but AMD has significantly better dual GPU, multi-monitor, and better general driver updates. Also, you typically aren't assed out on driver updates on AMD's GPUs, because they typically go on for four to six years.

I have to ask, where? In synthetic benchmarks? I've got issues with crossfire not disabling since Crimson came out with 15.11.1. Even in games with profiles I get the same performance with crossfire as after doing the 15min(no joke) dance to disable crossfire and using one GPU. Only the single GPU doesn't give me stutters.

 

I'm going to try Armored Warfare next, after I figure out why the last change from disabled to enabled set all my Afterburner values to 0 <_<

[PlayStation 2]

I have to ask, where? In synthetic benchmarks? I've got issues with crossfire not disabling since Crimson came out with 15.11.1. Even in games with profiles I get the same performance with crossfire as after doing the 15min(no joke) dance to disable crossfire and using one GPU. Only the single GPU doesn't give me stutters.

 

I'm going to try Armored Warfare next, after I figure out why the last change from disabled to enabled set all my Afterburner values to 0 <_<

wait what

i was for crossfire lol