NVIDIA + G-SYNC vs AMD + FREESYNC

[WaelT]

What makes nvidia + g-sync a better solution over the AMD + freesync ?

Does nvidia team deserve the extra $$$ for the g-sync and GPU? or you gain almost exact performance for less $$$ when choosing AMD + Freesync? 

 

What would you go with and why? 

[AresKrieger]

Gsync is better but as you said more money, but better so.....980ti + Gsync if I wanted to be 100% baller, otherwise I wouldn't waste the money on either imo, mostly because 60 fps is fine by me

[i_build_nanosuits]

i choosed GSYNC and nvidia because i feared AMD would have to sell out and stop providing support and drivers for GPU's.

[S1lent_5am]

All it comes down to is what a person can afford to do what ever is is they need to do.

[Enderman]

imo gsync because you get a full range of variable refresh rates from 30 to 144hz (or depending on the monitors max refresh rate)

[itsmyjobtoknow]

i choosed GSYNC and nvidia because i feared AMD would have to sell out and stop providing support and drivers for GPU's.

 

This is the reason why AMD might have to sell out, it goes in full circles. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

imo gsync because you get a full range of variable refresh rates from 30 to 144hz (or depending on the monitors max refresh rate)

actually it's 1FPS...to 144 or 165...

[i_build_nanosuits]

This is the reason why AMD might have to sell out, it goes in full circles. 

couldnt deal with the idea of having to buy only AMD GPU's for the next 5 or 10 years...hell nah.

[CyanideInsanity]

I don't recall them having any difference that's actually perceivable. They both do the same thing in the end, refresh the display with the output frames instead of a a fixed rate. Really it depens on what gpu you have, or will be upgrading to when your getting a VRR monitor. Freesync has the 1up over gsync simply because its built onto the displayport 1.2a standard, and doesn't require the scaler to be purchased from amd but even so is still only for amd gpus.

 

So far I can't call gsync anything other than a premium, but its your only option for VRR if you have an nvidia gpu. I believe nvidia did say that gsync can do more than just variable refresh, but we've got no additions so far.

[Sam Z Man]

The fact that Nvidia forces monitor manufactures to pay them a royalty on every monitor sold makes me not like them, same kind of thing where they make companies pay to have there motherboards support SLI.

[itsmyjobtoknow]

couldnt deal with the idea of having to buy only AMD GPU's for the next 5 or 10 years...hell nah.

 

No one ever said you had to ONLY buy AMD hardware. But the mentality of your earlier statement makes it sound as if you will never buy AMD hardware because of their financial status 

[Enderman]

actually it's 1FPS...to 144 or 165...

no, gsync only goes down to 30hz

[CyanideInsanity]

no, gsync only goes down to 30hz

 

Yes and no. While literally it bottoms somewhere around there, it technically continues. If you were getting 20fps it would be refreshing at 40hz, not 30.

[i_build_nanosuits]

no, gsync only goes down to 30hz

 

no, bellow 30FPS is start doubling the frames...so for example if you dip to 25FPS the monitor will refresh at 50hz but will show every frame twice.

...it keep it in Sync all the time...regardless of the framerate.

So effectively Gsync can work all the way down to 1FPS...it will then refresh at 30hz and display the same frame 30 times

You just don't notice it, but it's always in sync regardless....that's brilliant!

[i_build_nanosuits]

No one ever said you had to ONLY buy AMD hardware. But the mentality of your earlier statement makes it sound as if you will never buy AMD hardware because of their financial status 

well if you connect the dots...if you buy a Freesync monitor, that ties you to AMD GPU's if you want to use the feature...i felt better with the idea of buying only nvidia GPU's from now on...safer!

[Enderman]

 

no, bellow 30FPS is start doubling the frames...so for example if you dip to 25FPS the monitor will refresh at 50hz but will show every frame twice.

So effectively Gsync can work all the way down to 1FPS...it will then refresh at 30hz and display the same frame 30 times

 

thats not gsync

any monitor can do that

you send a monitor a 1fps image it still is displayed at a refresh rate of 30 or 60hz

the point of gsync is to match the framerate to the refresh rate x=y

if youre getting 20fps and gsync sends the monitor 40Hz you still only see 20Hz because each image is displayed twice

 

that is 2x=y not x=y

[i_build_nanosuits]

thats not gsync

any monitor can do that

you send a monitor a 1fps image it still is displayed at a refresh rate of 30 or 60hz

the point of gsync is to match the framerate to the refresh rate x=y

if youre getting 20fps and gsync sends the monitor 40Hz you still only see 20Hz because each image is displayed twice

 

that is 2x=y not x=y

you do not understand, re-read my post it has been slightly edited.

Yes you still see a 20FPS refresh rate in that case but it's still IN SYNC.

Therefore GSYNC still work even at 10FPS...you will see the same frame 3 times but it will not have any tearing, it will still be perfectly in SYNC.

Of course it won't magicaly double your framerates otherwise i wouldnt have a 980ti

[Weak1ings]

Freesync and G-sync are both very good.  I wish they weren't so stuck in each side however.  (red vs green.)

However, from what little I know, I think that G-sync is currently better due to the fact it works at a lot more FPS ranges than some of the Free-sync monitors who shut it off at too low or too high points.  (This is the monitor maker's issue, but it is still valid and present currently.)

[itsmyjobtoknow]

well if you connect the dots...if you buy a Freesync monitor, that ties you to AMD GPU's if you want to use the feature...i felt better with the idea of buying only nvidia GPU's from now on...safer!

 

No one ever said Freesync is ONLY tied to AMD's GPU. Freesync is an opened standard and NVidia can adapt it at any point of time.

Its just at the current moment of time, only AMD is using Freesync.

 

With that being said, if individuals ONLY buys NVidia hardware because it is "safer" and AMD does falls under, there will only be NVidia and their monopoly over the market. So how is that a "safer" bet when there is a potential monopoly?

[Enderman]

you do not understand, re-read my post it has been slightly edited.

Yes you still see a 20FPS refresh rate in that case but it's still IN SYNC.

Therefore GSYNC still work even at 10FPS...you will see the same frame 3 times but it will not have any tearing, it will still be perfectly in SYNC.

well if you consider that "working" then sure its in sync...but that isnt how you should be gaming

linus even said that anything below 40hz was already bad

[i_build_nanosuits]

1-No one ever said Freesync is ONLY tied to AMD's GPU. Freesync is an opened standard and NVidia can adapt it at any point of time.

Its just at the current moment of time, only AMD is using Freesync.

 

2-With that being said, if individuals ONLY buys NVidia hardware because it is "safer" and AMD does falls under, there will only be NVidia and their monopoly over the market. So how is that a "safer" bet when there is a potential monopoly?

1- nvidia won't adopt freesync they spent a bunch to force Gsync...which is better anyways.

2- yeah i know, hope some people keep buying them but it will not be me

[Enderman]

No one ever said Freesync is ONLY tied to AMD's GPU. Freesync is an opened standard and NVidia can adapt it at any point of time.

Its just at the current moment of time, only AMD is using Freesync.

 

With that being said, if individuals ONLY buys NVidia hardware because it is "safer" and AMD does falls under, there will only be NVidia and their monopoly over the market. So how is that a "safer" bet when there is a potential monopoly?

Freesync is not an open standard. Freesync is AMD's implementation of variable refhresh rate. They do not allow nvidia to use it.

 

Adaptive-Sync is the VESA standard of variable refresh rate, which is what nvidia could choose to use.

[i_build_nanosuits]

well if you consider that "working" then sure its in sync...but that isnt how you should be gaming

linus even said that anything below 40hz was already bad

of course it's bad...that's the reason i spent 800$ on a new graphics card mate

45FPS is not too bad with Gsync...55FPS is perfectly acceptable...80FPS is butter smooth...100FPS+ look like it's real and happening right in front of your eyes pretty much...

 

Your affirmation was Gsync only work down to 30hz....which is not true like i said it will start displaying the frames twice but will remain in sync and you will have no screen tearing or anything...just a sloppy slow framerate

[Kobathor]

The fact that Nvidia forces monitor manufactures to pay them a royalty on every monitor sold makes me not like them, same kind of thing where they make companies pay to have there motherboards support SLI.

I'm with you, man. NVidia keeps promising more, exciting things for G-Sync but they never have anything to show for it. They love their sheep that would pay a premium for a pile of poop with "NVidia" branding. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'm with you, man. NVidia keeps promising more, exciting things for G-Sync but they never have anything to show for it. They love their sheep that will pay a premium for anything. 

what else would Gsync need to do other than sync the monitor refresh rate to the GPU?!?! that's WHY it's been created and it's doing that FLAWLESSY...what else?! it should boost your FPS by 15% on top of that ?!?! WTF!!!....

this is the Gsync module...this tiny POS...what else should it do for you to be happy?! gosh