folding power cost ?

[Midnitewarrior4]

ok so my rig is in my sig, i limit my gpu to 65 degrees while folding which makes it throttle a little so lets say the system is using 300 watts while folding, if i fold for 3 hours at 300 watts thats 0.9KWh   

my hydro price is 8.3 cents per KWh so does that mean folding for 3 hours costs about 8 cents ?   i usually fold on off peak hours and my parents were complaining about the power bill but could this be because of the folding cause really lets say i fold for 6 hours in the week that only 16 cents.... are my calculations right here ? or am i missing something ?

[Enderman]

yeah its right

[Midnitewarrior4]

yeah its right

well i guess folding doesnt cost too much then guess folding will become a regular thing for me again

[Midnitewarrior4]

yeah its right

btw can you fold on a 9600gt ? might pickup a cheap system and he has one laying around wondering if i should get it to fold

[Enderman]

btw can you fold on a 9600gt ? might pickup a cheap system and he has one laying around wondering if i should get it to fold

no idea, i dont fold

but probably, i know people fold on crappy 10 years old laptops...lol

[Midnitewarrior4]

no idea, i dont fold

but probably, i know people fold on crappy 10 years old laptops...lol

lol im stil wondering if i should buy it, the guy wants to give me 4 oloder pc`s running windows xp and that have 1-2gb of ram for 50$ but one of them has windows 7 but it wont boot into windows and it has 1 gb of ram and a 80gb hdd, so i dont know if ill be able to make profit selling them fixed up or not, might buiy 2 and put all the good parts in one and sell the other parts

[Imakuni]

ok so my rig is in my sig, i limit my gpu to 65 degrees while folding which makes it throttle a little so lets say its using 300 watts while folding, if i fold for 3 hours at 300 watts thats 0.9KWh   

my hydro price is 8.3 cents per KWh so does that mean folding for 3 hours costs about 8 cents ?   i usually fold on off peak hours and my parents were complaining about the power bill but could this be because of the folding cause really lets say i fold for 6 hours in the week that only 16 cents.... are my calculations right here ? or am i missing something ?

No way the GPU is using 300w. AT ALL. My Gtx 970 Windforce, with fans at 78% reaches 80ºC when using 220w, you'd have to have a custom loop to achieve 300w at 65ºC. Maybe total system power consumption, yeah, but as far as GPU.... it's not using 300w.

 

Grab yourself a wattimeter (commonly know as "kill-a-watt") and plug your PC to it. Take the delta between how much power the PC normally uses and how much it uses when folding; multiply that by the time spent folding and the tax, and you'll get yourself an accurate number.

 

Oh, and a hint

[Midnitewarrior4]

 

No way the GPU is using 300w. AT ALL. My Gtx 970 Windforce, with fans at 78% reaches 80ºC when using 220w, you'd have to have a custom loop to achieve 300w at 65ºC. Maybe total system power consumption, yeah, but as far as GPU.... it's not using 300w.

 

Grab yourself a wattimeter (commonly know as "kill-a-watt") and plug your PC to it. Take the delta between how much power the PC normally uses and how much it uses when folding; multiply that by the time spent folding and the tax, and you'll get yourself an accurate number.

 

Oh, and a hint

i never said my gpu was using 300w.... i said whole system.... "ok so my rig is in my sig, i limit my gpu to 65 degrees while folding which makes it throttle a little so lets say its using 300 watts while folding" i said im using the pc in my sig which i limit my gpu so it should use around 300 watts by "it" i mean the whole system

[vanished]

i never said my gpu was using 300w.... i said whole system.... "ok so my rig is in my sig, i limit my gpu to 65 degrees while folding which makes it throttle a little so lets say its using 300 watts while folding" i said im using the pc in my sig which i limit my gpu so it should use around 300 watts by "it" i mean the whole system

Well you can see how that was unclear though and could have referred to either the GPU or your whole system

[Coaxialgamer]

btw can you fold on a 9600gt ? might pickup a cheap system and he has one laying around wondering if i should get it to fold

i wouldl'nt fold on a 9600gt , because there are systems that are so much more energy efficien.

Personnally i would try to find something newer that will give you more poerformance/watt , even if it costs you more at the beginning.

[tobben]

the 9600gt probably won't work, i am guessing there won't be any wu's available for it.

Even if it works, the return will be next to nothing and you might be missing the timeout. 

I wouldn't put too much effort into it.

[iBeast_M0de]

No way the GPU is using 300w. AT ALL. My Gtx 970 Windforce, with fans at 78% reaches 80ºC when using 220w, you'd have to have a custom loop to achieve 300w at 65ºC. Maybe total system power consumption, yeah, but as far as GPU.... it's not using 300w.

Grab yourself a wattimeter (commonly know as "kill-a-watt") and plug your PC to it. Take the delta between how much power the PC normally uses and how much it uses when folding; multiply that by the time spent folding and the tax, and you'll get yourself an accurate number.

Oh, and a hint

Bro I think u eitherlive in the desert or ur card has no thermal paste (Im joking ofcourse there is no way that could be it) how can u get the 970 at 78% fan speed still rise up to 80 degrees C my 770 overvolted and Oced to 1297 Mhz while folding at 30% fan speed gets up to about 65-70 degrees and thats with an ambient temperature of about 28 C (I know thats alot but I keep my pc running with the windows closed) and the 970 is far more power efficient

[Imakuni]

Bro I think u eitherlive in the desert or ur card has no thermal paste (Im joking ofcourse there is no way that could be it) how can u get the 970 at 78% fan speed still rise up to 80 degrees C my 770 overvolted and Oced to 1297 Mhz while folding at 30% fan speed gets up to about 65-70 degrees and thats with an ambient temperature of about 28 C (I know thats alot but I keep my pc running with the windows closed) and the 970 is far more power efficient

Problem isn't ambient temps or thermal paste.

 

The problem is actually the apps I use, which consume MUCH more power than the majority of things out there. They consume a lot more than regular apps, such as games and folding, these are relatively light programs.

[vanished]

Problem isn't ambient temps or thermal paste.

 

The problem is actually the apps I use, which consume MUCH more power than the majority of things out there. They consume a lot more than regular apps, such as games and folding, these are relatively light programs.

Are you sure it's not the 35 ºC temps you proclaim in your location?

 

If not, I'm curious now... what could be doing that!?

[Imakuni]

Are you sure it's not the 35 ºC temps you proclaim in your location?

 

If not, I'm curious now... what could be doing that!?

Well, 35º happens during peak summer. It's still a month or 2 away from happening, my guess is around 25º now. At any rate, such high load is achieved with primality testing on a newly optimized app, released just a little while ago.

 

As a quick explanation as to why it generates so much heat,

it's because the new app uses Single Precision digits, which is Maxwell's strong point. As such, it can leverage every single drop of performance; while every other GPU had it's performance drop to around 1/3 of the older app, Maxwell actually had in increase by around 20~30%. And that's not all: those tasks are EXTREMELY memory bandwidth demanding (it's different than memory size!), which also generates a lot of heat normally absent from games and stress tests, for these aren't as demanding on this aspect. Couple that with the fact that the PC runs 24/7, so the GPU and case (and even the room, to an extent) have enough time to get heat soaked, and you've got yourself a recipe for disaster...

 

Oh, and remember physics: being "efficient" just means a great performance / consumption value, not necessarely "low power consumption". And if the card consumes loads of power, it WILL get hot, there's just no way around it.....

[vanished]

Well, 35º happens during peak summer. It's still a month or 2 away from happening, my guess is around 25º now. 

We get a couple days like that in summer as well, usually, but that doesn't mean you have to let the room get that hot; air conditioning

 

Also, I'm lovin' the -5 - +10 range right now

 

As a quick explanation as to why it generates so much heat,

it's because the new app uses Single Precision digits, which is Maxwell's strong point. As such, it can leverage every single drop of performance; while every other GPU had it's performance drop to around 1/3 of the older app, Maxwell actually had in increase by around 20~30%. And that's not all: those tasks are EXTREMELY memory bandwidth demanding (it's different than memory size!), which also generates a lot of heat normally absent from games and stress tests, for these aren't as demanding on this aspect. Couple that with the fact that the PC runs 24/7, so the GPU and case (and even the room, to an extent) have enough time to get heat soaked, and you've got yourself a recipe for disaster... 

Ah, ok that makes total sense.

 

Oh, and remember physics: being "efficient" just means a great performance / consumption value, not necessarely "low power consumption". And if the card consumes loads of power, it WILL get hot, there's just no way around it.....

of course

[Guest SkyFall]

ok so my rig is in my sig, i limit my gpu to 65 degrees while folding which makes it throttle a little so lets say the system is using 300 watts while folding, if i fold for 3 hours at 300 watts thats 0.9KWh   

my hydro price is 8.3 cents per KWh so does that mean folding for 3 hours costs about 8 cents ?   i usually fold on off peak hours and my parents were complaining about the power bill but could this be because of the folding cause really lets say i fold for 6 hours in the week that only 16 cents.... are my calculations right here ? or am i missing something ?

 

You're lucky, I pay about 26 cents per kWh...

[Midnitewarrior4]

You're lucky, I pay about 26 cents per kWh...

mine is 8.3 off peak 12.8 mid and 17.5 on peak so ya I guess that pretty good

[iBeast_M0de]

Problem isn't ambient temps or thermal paste.

 

The problem is actually the apps I use, which consume MUCH more power than the majority of things out there. They consume a lot more than regular apps, such as games and folding, these are relatively light programs.

When in a stress test my 770 doesn't go over the 75 degrees C so I have no clue what ur are trying to explain here I must be poor airflow then

[vanished]

When in a stress test my 770 doesn't go over the 75 degrees C so I have no clue what ur are trying to explain here I must be poor airflow then

Did you read the explanation?  He's using apps that are setup to work the card in a way that produces more heat than most due to how they can leverage more of it's abilities.  Not unlike prime95 in a way, I suppose.

[iBeast_M0de]

Did you read the explanation?  He's using apps that are setup to work the card in a way that produces more heat than most due to how they can leverage more of it's abilities.  Not unlike prime95 in a way, I suppose.

I did read the explanation but why would u ever wanna do something like that and tell people its inpossible for there cards to run that cool underload without telling anyone at first hand that he's using those programmes