1st time builder

GrimboSnipes · October 29, 2015

Hi,

New on here and just wanted to get a few questions out of the way since I will be building my first PC soon. Here is what I am coming to terms with on my build...

Case - Case Master Magnum TH10A or STH10A

Processor - i7 6700k

Mobo - MSI X99A GODLIKE GAMING

GPU - MSI GTX 980ti

Memory - Undecided (looking for suggestions)

Drive - Undecided (looking for suggestions) possibly M.2

Power Supply - Undecided (looking for suggestions)

Cooling - EKWB custom liquid cooling

Monitor - Lookin for a good curved monitor (looking for suggestions)

Primarily for gaming

Budget is around 4k

Location in the USA

Kind of confused with M.2. Getting this would nullify the need of getting regular SSD's or HDD's?

Other suggestions will be appreciated.

GammaProX · October 29, 2015

Hi,

New on here and just wanted to get a few questions out of the way since I will be building my first PC soon. Here is what I am coming to terms with on my build...

Case - Case Master Magnum TH10A or STH10A

Processor - i7 6700k

Mobo - MSI X99A GODLIKE GAMING

GPU - MSI GTX 980ti

Memory - Undecided (looking for suggestions)

Drive - Undecided (looking for suggestions) possibly M.2

Power Supply - Undecided (looking for suggestions)

Cooling - EKWB custom liquid cooling

Kind of confused with M.2. Getting this would nullify the need of getting regular SSD's or HDD's?

Other suggestions will be appreciated.

whats your price range and what will the pc be used for. also follow your post with the button on the top right to see when people reply

Shimejii · October 29, 2015

M.2 uses PCI.E Slot, its quite a bit faster than a normal SSD due to the location on the mother board. They are generally amazing to put an os for booting. You could probably get a small one for just the OS, than a regular Samsung SSD or w/e brand you want for storage, and a HDD for Mass storage.

8-Bit Ninja · October 29, 2015

water cooling on your first build, christ good luck. as for memory make sure its DDR4 brands like Corsair, Kingston or G skill are a safe bet. A m.2 is a ssd that plugs directly into the motherboard rather than through a sata cable. Its expensive, but the speeds blow a normal ssd out the water, as for PSU, make sure you've herd of the brand. If it has Chinese characters as the company name, stay away from it, also don't go near any corsair CX series PSU's

Elucidator · October 29, 2015

whats your price range and what will the pc be used for. also follow your post with the button on the top right to see when people reply

I think he wants it to play videogames, since he has a gaming mobo and a Ti

Tac127 · October 29, 2015

that's a x99 board don't you need z170 for skylake?

October 29, 2015

Tip 1) PCPartPicker is a wonderful website for making sure everything is compatible

Tip 2) If you give us a budget and a location (country) we would be more then happy to put together a build for you
Tip 3) X99 (Haswell-E) and Z170 (Skylake) are two different sockets, you would need a Z170 based motherboard for the Skylake CPU

GammaProX · October 29, 2015

I think he wants it to play videogames, since he has a gaming mobo and a Ti

that's what everyone assumes on this forum. so i dont like too

Nena Trinity · October 30, 2015

I made a long list of ideas also budget?

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

whats your price range and what will the pc be used for. also follow your post with the button on the top right to see when people reply

I have like 4k to blow on it!

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

water cooling on your first build, christ good luck. as for memory make sure its DDR4 brands like Corsair, Kingston or G skill are a safe bet. A m.2 is a ssd that plugs directly into the motherboard rather than through a sata cable. Its expensive, but the speeds blow a normal ssd out the water, as for PSU, make sure you've herd of the brand. If it has Chinese characters as the company name, stay away from it, also don't go near any corsair CX series PSU's

I don't think the water-cooling part will be that difficult. I'm pretty good at hands on stuff. I was thinking of going with one of the EKWB kits which should make it more easier.

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

Tip 1) PCPartPicker is a wonderful website for making sure everything is compatible

Tip 2) If you give us a budget and a location (country) we would be more then happy to put together a build for you

Tip 3) X99 (Haswell-E) and Z170 (Skylake) are two different sockets, you would need a Z170 based motherboard for the Skylake CPU

Thanks for the website

I have 4k to spend, in the US.

And thank you for letting me know bout skyline not being compatible with the X99.

stconquest · October 30, 2015

I have like 4k to blow on it!

That is great and all, but depending on your purpose there might not be a reason to spend that much.

1. Where do you live?

2. Why are you building this PC? It's uses.

3. Do you need a monitor?

4. Do you need peripherals?

I would not recommend custom water cooling for a first-time builder. You will be spending over $500 (CPU/GPU) and the performance benefit over closed loop coolers is very small. They look great, but if you don't have any experience you might just want to do custom water cooling later on. Focus on the core components and getting the PC running well first.

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

That is great and all, but depending on your purpose there might not be a reason to spend that much.

1. Where do you live?

2. Why are you building this PC? It's uses.

3. Do you need a monitor?

4. Do you need peripherals?

I would not recommend custom water cooling for a first-time builder. You will be spending over $500 (CPU/GPU) and the performance benefit over closed loop coolers is very small. They look great, but if you don't have any experience you might just want to do custom water cooling later on. Focus on the core components and getting the PC running well first.

1. USA

2. Gaming and web browsing

3. Yes

4. What is a peripheral?

stconquest · October 30, 2015

1. USA

2. Gaming and web browsing

3. Yes

4. What is a peripheral?

Keyboard/mouse/sound gear, etc...

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

Keyboard/mouse/sound gear, etc...

Ah, just a keyboard and sound gear

stconquest · October 30, 2015

Ah, just a keyboard and sound gear

A well rounded gaming build. You can argue for the GTX 980Ti($650) because it is faster, but the monitor I chose has Freesync (research Freesync and Gsync). You can always add a second R9 390X into this machine:

$2190:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($174.11 @ Newegg)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Monitor: Asus MG279Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($579.99 @ B&H)

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($112.05 @ Amazon)

Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset ($79.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $2160.57

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-29 21:19 EDT-0400

GarnetDevil · October 30, 2015

If you have lots of money to spend you should consider using a PCI-E SSD

stconquest · October 30, 2015

If you have lots of money to spend you should consider using a PCI-E SSD

I don't mean this in a bad way, but... for what?

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

If you have lots of money to spend you should consider using a PCI-E SSD

A well rounded gaming build. You can argue for the GTX 980Ti($650) because it is faster, but the monitor I chose has Freesync (research Freesync and Gsync). You can always add a second R9 390X into this machine:

$2190:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($174.11 @ Newegg)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Monitor: Asus MG279Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($579.99 @ B&H)

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($112.05 @ Amazon)

Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset ($79.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $2160.57

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-29 21:19 EDT-0400

Yea thats a pretty nice build, way cheaper than what I originally planned....

How bout this one?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZC6mt6

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

And how did you link the items in that manner?

stconquest · October 30, 2015

Yea thats a pretty nice build, way cheaper than what I originally planned....

How bout this one?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZC6mt6

Well, you are spending $1500 and might get worse performance than my build.

Reasons:

Motherboard - 0% performance increase

RAM - little or no gaming performance and you will never use 32 GB for gaming

Water Cooled - You don't need to overclock the CPU for gaming... most people do it for fun.

Power Supply - $70 more, no discernible quality benefits... The Seasonic EVO is a high quality unit.

M2 Drives - No faster than the Samsung EVO I had picked. You could look into NVME drives but you won't see enough benefit to justify the extra cost... 0% in games actually.

Case - 3x the price of the Enthoo Pro... personal choice, but the Enthoo Pro is an awesome case for $99. It is more like a $150+ case... no better value for a full tower on the market.

Monitor - Now the real reason you might actually notice a drop in gaming performance going from my build to yours. You have a 1440p widescreen display which means that even though the 980Ti is faster than the R9 390X, it will have to do more work because of the extra pixels.

Honest Critique: You have a lot of frills that serve no real performance purpose. Some parts are picked for reason I cannot understand, it probably just looked good to you (I am not trying to be mean, sorry).

At $3700 you could be running two GTX 980Tis and have an Intel 750 or Samsung 950 planned for your storage... and still have money left over.

stconquest · October 30, 2015

And how did you link the items in that manner?

GrimboSnipes · October 30, 2015

Well, you are spending $1500 and might get worse performance than my build.

Reasons:

Motherboard - 0% performance increase

RAM - little or no gaming performance and you will never use 32 GB for gaming

Water Cooled - You don't need to overclock the CPU for gaming... most people do it for fun.

Power Supply - $70 more, no discernible quality benefits... The Seasonic EVO is a high quality unit.

M2 Drives - No faster than the Samsung EVO I had picked. You could look into NVME drives but you won't see enough benefit to justify the extra cost... 0% in games actually.

Case - 3x the price of the Enthoo Pro... personal choice, but the Enthoo Pro is an awesome case for $99. It is more like a $150+ case... no better value for a full tower on the market.

Monitor - Now the real reason you might actually notice a drop in gaming performance going from my build to yours. You have a 1440p widescreen display which means that even though the 980Ti is faster than the R9 390X, it will have to do more work because of the extra pixels.

Honest Critique: You have a lot of frills that serve no real performance purpose. Some parts are picked for reason I cannot understand, it probably just looked good to you (I am not trying to be mean, sorry).

At $3700 you could be running two GTX 980Tis and have an Intel 750 or Samsung 950 planned for your storage... and still have money left over.

I appreciate the honesty bud, I don't know the realm as well, thats why I am on here.

I'll def consider that build though.

I do want that monitor in all honesty though, its so beast.

So 2 980 ti's would suffice for the monitor?

stconquest · October 30, 2015

I appreciate the honesty bud, I don't know the realm as well, thats why I am on here.

I'll def consider that build though.

I do want that monitor in all honesty though, its so beast.

So 2 980 ti's would suffice for the monitor?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ B&H)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($345.98 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($649.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: XFX PRO Black Edition 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)

Monitor: Acer Predator XR341CK 75Hz 34.0" Monitor ($1011.98 @ Directron)

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($112.05 @ Amazon)

Total: $3637.44