Single Thread Performance

[Jetfighter808]

At what Ghz would the fx 6300 be equal to the 4460 in terms of single threaded performance?

[ZetZet]

Never in real life. 7Ghz maybe. Probably 8.

[TheRandomness]

A lot.

[Arwanell]

never...

[JebKerman]

the amount you'd spend to get there (if at all) would not only be more than the chip itself, but would likely degrade the chip (or fry the board).

[Zackfoo]

is the ghz that you can't reach even with liquid nitrogen + 20 million dollar worth of lottery luck.

[Castdeath97]

GHz is not some sort of fairy magic, the fx-6300 has for single core IPC and it would take more than a couple of improvements in clock rate to make it as fast in single core operations.

[PorkyChoUk]

Get the i5 4460, the fx 6300 just sucks.

[Jetfighter808]

Why does AMD 6300 have 5MB more L2 cache than the i5?

[comicsansms]

Assuming there was perfect scaling
 
 
Single Core: Source
i5 4460 = 93.7pt, FX 6300 = 71.8pt
                                            71.8/3.5GHz=20.5
                                             20.5 * 4.5 = 92.6
 
The FX 6300 would have to be at least at 4.5GHZ to be par in single core preformance

[Extingquish]

Using passmark as a benchmark (Before anyone flames at me, yes I know doing it this way is hugely flawed since synthetic benchmark, different things affect single core performance etc, but I'm doing it anyway) if you divide the FX6300's clockspeed by it's score and then multiply it by the i5's score, you get an (inaccurate) answer

 

so using this 3.5/1408*1952=~4.85GHz which realistically isn't going to happen on a run of the mill motherboard and a 212 evo (to give an example of a cheap cooler that's usually paired with the 6300)

 

TL;DR get the i5, it's not worth the hassle to get an expensive motherboard to overclock

[ZetZet]

Why does AMD 6300 have 5MB more L2 cache than the i5?

why does it matter? It clearly doesn't do anything.

 

Assuming there was perfect scaling

 

i5 4460 = 93.7pt, FX 6300 = 71.8pt

                                            71.8/3.5GHz=20.5

                                             20.5 * 4.5 = 92.6

 

The FX 6300 would have to be at least at 4.5GHZ to be par in single core preformance

 

Scorce:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-6300/2310vs1555

except it's not even close to perfect.

[comicsansms]

why does it matter? It clearly doesn't do anything.

 

 

except it's not even close to perfect.

I know it isn't going to be very accurate!

Did i stuff up the formula?

[Dabombinable]

Look at it this way, an FX 8350 at 5.3GHz isn't as fast single threaded as an i5 4440 at stock.

[ZetZet]

I know it isn't going to be very accurate!

Did i stuff up the formula?

I don't like the numbers you used, that does cpubenchmark even look at? 

 

Let's take Cinebench http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_4460-358-vs-amd_fx_6300-218

 

4460 132

6300 at 3.5 94

So I get 4914Mhz here

 

 

Geekbench

4460 3136

6300 at 3.5 2073

5294Mhz here

 

 

In reality though it doesn't scale nearly as good as that so I would say my estimate of 7Ghz is pretty close.

 

9590 at 4.7Ghz gets 114 in cinebech and 2587 in geekbech. Still not even close to 4460.

[Dabombinable]

Search through the document here (Ctrl+F): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sxzGshuqVtFe_2zgRhN3gXCraR7d8p-NazJ6z0nsGGc/edit

[Jetfighter808]

If only intel gave an unlocked i3

[Dabombinable]

If only intel gave an unlocked i3

That would undercut the i5 series.

[Jetfighter808]

That would undercut the i5 series.

 

If only businesses didn't run on money 

[Guest]

9001 GHz

[Guest]

Assuming there was perfect scaling

 

 

Single Core: Scorce

i5 4460 = 93.7pt, FX 6300 = 71.8pt

                                            71.8/3.5GHz=20.5

                                             20.5 * 4.5 = 92.6

 

The FX 6300 would have to be at least at 4.5GHZ to be par in single core preformance

except math isn't always perfect with CPU's...

I believe it has a diminishing return effect when overclocking, hence after like 5GHz when overclocking, you rely on RAM a lot too rather CPU speed and GHz. It may not but the i5 is still the clear winner. 

[comicsansms]

except math isn't always perfect with CPU's...

I believe it has a diminishing return effect when overclocking, hence after like 5GHz when overclocking, you rely on RAM a lot too rather CPU speed and GHz. It may not but the i5 is still the clear winner. 

I did say

 

 

Assuming there was perfect scaling

[Nena Trinity]

i5 is best but if it was i3 vs FX then you could argue!

 

except math isn't always perfect with CPU's...
I believe it has a diminishing return effect when overclocking, hence after like 5GHz when overclocking, you rely on RAM a lot too rather CPU speed and GHz. It may not but the i5 is still the clear winner. 

I say a FX-6350 at 4.5 and a pair of 2133MHz RAM would be a good match against Haswell i3 but not to a i5...

[Jetfighter808]

Who changed the thread name?

[Dabombinable]

Who changed the thread name?

A  moderator.