6700K Bottleneck ?

[sms1202]

In many benchmarks I have seen case where a 5960X is a bottleneck at 2-way SLI of Titan X and 980ti's at 1440p (For eg: Awesomesauce network's hotline benchmark)

 

I was planning to get a 6700K and two r9 fury (non-x) for a setup which is still under planning

My budget won't allow a 5960X and a multi GPU setup 

 

Since the Skylake Architecture is looking great and seems to be good

Will it Bottleneck two R9 fury's ?

If yes I plan to save some money and get the GTX 980ti G1 Gaming edition

[Agazed]

No. Not even close lmao

[manikyath]

in minecraft - yes

in valley benchmark - no.

[sms1202]

No. Not even close lmao.

But the 5960x did bottleneck two 980ti at 1080p and 1440p

I planned to get the ASUS mG279Q

Awesomesauce's Hotline and @JayzTwoCents'  Skunkworks does mention the 5960x as a bottleneck

[sms1202]

in minecraft - yes

in valley benchmark - no.

Are you trolling or being serious?

[Morgan MLGman]

No, I don't think so. But I highly recommend you opt for the 5820k over the 6700k. It's simply better.

[LepokeZ]

im sorry but are you fucking completely out of this world?
jesus christ 

[The_Stig]

No, but saving for the faster single card is advisable.

[sms1202]

No, I don't think so. But I highly recommend you opt for the 5820k over the 6700k. It's simply better.

IDK, the jump to x99 does cost about $200 CAD and I don't think I need 6 cores yet.

[manikyath]

Are you trolling or being serious?

both.

in short:

there is no clear cut yes/no answer on bottlenecking, because every application will have a different balance between cpu and gpu usage, some applications will be able to make use of the two GPUs more than others, etc,etc.

[sms1202]

im sorry but are you fucking completely out of this world?

jesus christ 

Just check the Hotline benchmarks

Kyle mentions it to be a bottleneck at lower resolutions 

[Castdeath97]

But the 5960x did bottleneck two 980ti at 1080p and 1440p

I planned to get the ASUS mG279Q

Awesomesauce's Hotline and @JayzTwoCents'  Skunkworks does mention the 5960x as a bottleneck

It isn't a bottleneck because the i7 5960X is weak, rather because DX 11 isn't effcient enough to make use of it. So, the verdict is there is little you can do, even a i7 5960X won't fix it.

[manikyath]

No, I don't think so. But I highly recommend you opt for the 5820k over the 6700k. It's simply better.

thats very wrong. while it beats the 6700k in multi-trheaded loads, the 6700k beats it in quad core and single core.

[Majestic]

If you consider a bottleneck inherently as a sign of unbalance, then yes.

 

Question is ill-defined. 

[Morgan MLGman]

thats very wrong. while it beats the 6700k in multi-trheaded loads, the 6700k beats it in quad core and single core.

No. In the recent 6700k vs 5820k CPU showdown, the 6700k won in 1 out of 4 games that Luke tested and gaming is supposed to be the only thing the 6700k might have an advantage over the 5820k cause in every other heavy task it's going to lose. What's the point of it if it's only slightly cheaper? the 5820k single cored performance after a decent OC to around 4,4-4,6ghz provided you have a good cooler is more than enough for anything you throw at it. You get 4 extra threads with it and an enthusiast grade chipset. For example I OC'd my dad's 5820k to 4,4 ghz on an aircooler Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 and it runs just fine without any extreme temps. I could try pushing it further, felt no need for it. @sms1202 you should know all that too I guess ^^

[sms1202]

Ok

So the conclusion is the 6700K is too far away from bottle necking two r9 furys

[manikyath]

No. In the recent 6700k vs 5820k CPU showdown, the 6700k won in 1 out of 4 games that Luke tested and gaming is supposed to be the only thing the 6700k might have an advantage over the 5820k cause in every other heavy task it's going to lose. What's the point of it if it's only slightly cheaper? the 5820k single cored performance after a decent OC to around 4,4-4,6ghz provided you have a good cooler is more than enough for anything you throw at it. You get 4 extra threads with it and an enthusiast grade chipset.

first off: yes you can oc the 5820k, but you can flawlessly oc the 6700k as well.

 

second: yes, indeed the 5820k beat the 6700k in some benchmarks, guess what, i just told you. "in multithreaded loads"

its all a matter of how many threads the preffered applications use.

[sms1202]

No. In the recent 6700k vs 5820k CPU showdown, the 6700k won in 1 out of 4 games that Luke tested and gaming is supposed to be the only thing the 6700k might have an advantage over the 5820k cause in every other heavy task it's going to lose. What's the point of it if it's only slightly cheaper? the 5820k single cored performance after a decent OC to around 4,4-4,6ghz provided you have a good cooler is more than enough for anything you throw at it. You get 4 extra threads with it and an enthusiast grade chipset. For example I OC'd my dad's 5820k to 4,4 ghz on an aircooler Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 and it runs just fine without any extreme temps. I could try pushing it further, felt no need for it. @sms1202 you should know all that too I guess ^^

I know

[mathijs727]

For gaming high single threaded performance will be better in most games. In terms of API bottlenecks high single threaded performance will probably be better. The driver that has to process the draw commands always runs on a single thread so adding more cores doesnt fix that problem.

The 6700K has way better single threaded performance then the X99 CPU's because of higher clock speeds and better IPC (instruction per clock).

[Octavialicious]

in minecraft - yes

 

there is no bottleneck in minecraft, just terrible optimization and coding. My old GTX 670 + FX-8350 DESTROYED my GTX 980Ti + 4790K

[Morgan MLGman]

first off: yes you can oc the 5820k, but you can flawlessly oc the 6700k as well.

 

second: yes, indeed the 5820k beat the 6700k in some benchmarks, guess what, i just told you. "in multithreaded loads"

its all a matter of how many threads the preffered applications use.

In a year or two there won't be a new game that doesn't use all of the threads of your CPU. If the 5820k wins even right now, it will be significantly better in the future and relevant longer.

 

 

For gaming high single threaded performance will be better in most games. In terms of API bottlenecks high single threaded performance will probably be better. The driver that has to process the draw commands always runs on a single thread so adding more cores doesnt fix that problem.

The 6700K has way better single threaded performance then the X99 CPU's because of higher clock speeds and better IPC (instruction per clock).

There shouldn't be any major API bottlenecks in DX12. That's what it's made for. If the 5820k is just as good in gaming right now, it can be only better in the future.

 

[manikyath]

there is no bottleneck in minecraft, just terrible optimization and coding. My old GTX 670 + FX-8350 DESTROYED my GTX 980Ti + 4790K

minecraft is just a bit special, i've seen minecraft bottleneck on pci-e bandwidth before.

[Octavialicious]

minecraft is just flat out idiotic

Such a splendid game, but Mojang has the IQ of a pig. They mess with things people enjoy and add stupid features no one asks for, as opposed to fixing optimization issues and actual things people care about.

[Master Disaster]

Such a splendid game, but Mojang has the IQ of a pig. They mess with things people enjoy and add stupid features no one asks for, as opposed to fixing optimization issues and actual things people care about.

 

Well now Mojang no longer own MC any more I guess we'll see what MS do with it.

[manikyath]

Such a splendid game, but Mojang has the IQ of a pig. They mess with things people enjoy and add stupid features no one asks for, as opposed to fixing optimization issues and actual things people care about.

thats why mods exist

minecraft forge (which is just the API) causes the game to run approx. 30% better in some cases.