Best way to decrese video rendering (exporting) time?

[ZiggyGG]

Hello.

I have some important question. I am doing video editing and with my current config (i7 5930K, MSI X99S Gaming 7, Titan X and 32GB DDR4 2133MHz) video exporting/rendering in Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 take me around same time as video length. I want to decrease this time to faster rendering. I already tried with second Titan X in SLI but there was no difference at all. The next thing what I'm thinking about is buying nVidia Quadro K5200. If this will help me improve rendering time? I've also heard that I will get more improvement if I just change my CPU for higher 5960X model. 

 

I recall that Linux editors desk have now Titan X and i7 5960X, so is it the optimal setting?

 

Can anyone help me to make right decision about how to decrease rendering speed? Maybe there is another way?

I am exporting to H264 FullHD 1080p 12Mbps 60FPS.

Thanks

[You_are_a_cunt]

The rendering is done by one of the beasts in the server room, afaik

[Sir Asvald]

Hello.

I have some important question. I am doing video editing and with my current config (i7 5930K, MSI X99S Gaming 7, Titan X and 32GB DDR4 2133MHz) video exporting/rendering in Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 take me around same time as video length. I want to decrease this time to faster rendering. I already tried with second Titan X in SLI but there was no difference at all. The next thing what I'm thinking about is buying nVidia Quadro K5200. If this will help me improve rendering time? I've also heard that I will get more improvement if I just change my CPU for higher 5960X model. 

 

I recall that Linux editors desk have now Titan X and i7 5960X, so is it the optimal setting?

 

Can anyone help me to make right decision about how to decrease rendering speed? Maybe there is another way?

I am exporting to H264 FullHD 1080p 12Mbps 60FPS.

Thanks

How long is the Video? Mine is 11 minutes same settings 10Mbps 12Mbps Target. 14 Minutes on an i5 4690

 

Also please follow your topics @ZiggyGG

 

 

[HeyKitty]

drop from 12Mbps to around 4-6 and to 30FPS... there is no real need to render that high of settings unless you have the power/wait time to do so... Most people wont care about the quality drop.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Only specific codex are gpu accelerated (see the video editing log for one that is, idr the name).

 

Likewise using a different codex will allow you to optimize that way. A k5200 will be a step-down from the titan x in this case (as it doesn't use or require DP).

 

And yea.. 30 FPS.

[sumitmak]

This is something out of a big budget, but try looking up about the concept of Rendering Farms.

 

Other than that, mostly look for higher processing power, OC you processor with good cooling might help a bit as well. And as someone stated, some codecs don't support GPU acceleration, so basically your GPU is sleeping during the rendering process.

[Sauron]

LMG use a dual 18-core xeon computer with two titan Xs in it. As for the "optimal" setup, there really isn't one; the more compute power you can fit in the better it will be. You could techniocally use pcie extenders and have 6 titans or more in there. Swap those out for dual gpu cards and you just doubled performance again.

 

To keep it cheap you could consider an r9 290 rendering farm; tuck 4 of those in one rig and the compute power will be monstrous for relatively cheap, assuming the encoding you use supports opencl rendering.

[ZiggyGG]

How long is the Video? Mine is 11 minutes same settings 10Mbps 12Mbps Target. 14 Minutes on an i5 4690

 

The rendering time is +/- same as video length. so if video is about 45 minutes then the rendering time around same.

 

Only specific codex are gpu accelerated (see the video editing log for one that is, idr the name).

 

Likewise using a different codex will allow you to optimize that way. A k5200 will be a step-down from the titan x in this case (as it doesn't use or require DP).

 

And yea.. 30 FPS.

 

OK then K5200 is off the list. What codex I should use for better GPU acceleration within the Adobe Premiere Pro?

 

This is something out of a big budget, but try looking up about the concept of Rendering Farms.

 

Other than that, mostly look for higher processing power, OC you processor with good cooling might help a bit as well. And as someone stated, some codecs don't support GPU acceleration, so basically your GPU is sleeping during the rendering process.

 

So then I'm thinking upgrade to i7 5960X with OC? I use AIO watercooling.

 

LMG use a dual 18-core xeon computer with two titan Xs in it. As for the "optimal" setup, there really isn't one; the more compute power you can fit in the better it will be. You could techniocally use pcie extenders and have 6 titans or more in there. Swap those out for dual gpu cards and you just doubled performance again.

 

To keep it cheap you could consider an r9 290 rendering farm; tuck 4 of those in one rig and the compute power will be monstrous for relatively cheap, assuming the encoding you use supports opencl rendering.

 

Yeah I forgot about this beast. But the rig I need isn't just for rendering, so I think buying two Xeons, Mobo and second Titan X  isn't the right thing to do.

What render farm you have in mind? I am using Adobe Premiere Pro CS6.

[Sauron]

Yeah I forgot about this beast. But the rig I need isn't just for rendering, so I think buying two Xeons, Mobo and second Titan X  isn't the right thing to do.

What render farm you have in mind? I am using Adobe Premiere Pro CS6.

 

A render farm would simply be a rig (or more than one) full of gpus that has no other purpose than rendering. You finish your work on your main machine and the farm renders it faster than your pc would.

[Curufinwe_wins]

The rendering time is +/- same as video length. so if video is about 45 minutes then the rendering time around same.

 

 

OK then K5200 is off the list. What codex I should use for better GPU acceleration within the Adobe Premiere Pro?

 

 

So then I'm thinking upgrade to i7 5960X with OC? I use AIO watercooling.

 

 

Yeah I forgot about this beast. But the rig I need isn't just for rendering, so I think buying two Xeons, Mobo and second Titan X  isn't the right thing to do.

What render farm you have in mind? I am using Adobe Premiere Pro CS6.

I don't know. I would watch the lmg video about their workflow for tips there.

[ZiggyGG]

A render farm would simply be a rig (or more than one) full of gpus that has no other purpose than rendering. You finish your work on your main machine and the farm renders it faster than your pc would.

I think that's cost will be high. Can you give examples?

I don't know. I would watch the lmg video about their workflow for tips there.

I am watching but can't buy now this Xeon beast or hire many editors. Other ideas?

[Sauron]

I think that's cost will be high. Can you give examples?

 

A core i3 with 4 r9 290s on pcie risers. Sure, it's not cheap, but it's cheaper than dual titans and it would perform better IF your program supports opencl.

[ZiggyGG]

A core i3 with 4 r9 290s on pcie risers. Sure, it's not cheap, but it's cheaper than dual titans and it would perform better IF your program supports opencl.

I'll look in to that and check the pricing.

I guess I send those projects with all files through the network, right?

EDIT:

In my store they don't have R9 290. Have 270,380,390. Which one I should check?

[Sauron]

I'll look in to that and check the pricing.

I guess I send those projects with all files through the network, right?

EDIT:

In my store they don't have R9 290. Have 270,380,390. Which one I should check?

 

Yeah, you could use a network or just move them over with a usb stick if you prefer, depends on your needs. By the way, MAKE SURE the program you use supports opencl before buying amd gpus, and cuda if you choose nvidia; otherwise you'll be wasting money.

 

The 390 is faster than a 290, the 380 and 270 are significantly slower. 390 all the way if you can afford them.

[ZiggyGG]

Yeah, you could use a network or just move them over with a usb stick if you prefer, depends on your needs. By the way, MAKE SURE the program you use supports opencl before buying amd gpus, and cuda if you choose nvidia; otherwise you'll be wasting money.

 

The 390 is faster than a 290, the 380 and 270 are significantly slower. 390 all the way if you can afford them.

I use Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and it is supporting both CUDA and OpenCL. And if nVidia then which one? 960? 970? 980? 980Ti?

If I take those R9 390 then two is enough for start?

[Sauron]

I use Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and it is supporting both CUDA and OpenCL. And if nVidia then which one? 960? 970? 980? 980Ti?

If I take those R9 390 then two is enough for start?

 

You can start at any number you like, but a single 390 will be slower than your titan x. On the nvidia side, computing performance isn't as good in maxwell cards, you'd be better off if you managed to find some 780/tis.

[ZiggyGG]

You can start at any number you like, but a single 390 will be slower than your titan x. On the nvidia side, computing performance isn't as good in maxwell cards, you'd be better off if you managed to find some 780/tis.

 

390 then. With how many 390s i should start then?

[Sauron]

390 then. With how many 390s i should start then?

 

I honestly can't tell you, depends on how fast you need dem renders. Since you say a titan x isn't enough for you I'd start at 3, but nothing stops you from buyin two, testing them and buying another one the next day if the performance doesn't satisfy you. Make sure you buy a power supply that can handle them though.

[ZiggyGG]

I honestly can't tell you, depends on how fast you need dem renders. Since you say a titan x isn't enough for you I'd start at 3, but nothing stops you from buyin two, testing them and buying another one the next day if the performance doesn't satisfy you. Make sure you buy a power supply that can handle them though.

 

For now I checked this set:

Asus Z170-DELUXE Intel Z170 LGA 1151 ATX

Intel Core i3-6320 3,9 GHz LGA1151

Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4 2133 MHz CL14 16 GB

Samsung 850 Pro 128GB SSD

Samsung 850 Pro 512GB SSD

2x Asus STRIX-R9390-DC3OC-8GD5-GAMING Radeon R9 390 Gaming 8 GB

Corsair HX1200i, 80 PLUS Platinum

I have Antec Three Hundred ATX case, so I could put that in there.

Price about 2130 euro. It´s about price of this Quadro K5200. Will it be more efficient? Any changes?

[Sauron]

 

For now I checked this set:

Asus Z170-DELUXE Intel Z170 LGA 1151 ATX

Intel Core i3-6320 3,9 GHz LGA1151

Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4 2133 MHz CL14 16 GB

Samsung 850 Pro 128GB SSD

Samsung 850 Pro 512GB SSD

2x Asus STRIX-R9390-DC3OC-8GD5-GAMING Radeon R9 390 Gaming 8 GB

Corsair HX1200i, 80 PLUS Platinum

I have Antec Three Hundred ATX case, so I could put that in there.

Price about 2130 euro. It´s about price of this Quadro K5200. Will it be more efficient? Any changes?

 

I don't see the need for ssds, if you'll use it for rendering a hdd will do just fine. I'd also tone down the motherboard, there's really no need for a high end board; for rendering the gpus only need a pcie 1x lane each, so as long as it has enough slots as you need any mid end board will do. Two r9 390s will definitely outperform that quadro by a decent margin, quadros are generally good for cad and such. The power supply is plenty even f you want to add a third or ever 4th card, so no complaints there (bare in mind you can always use a second power supply if you want to, there are no downsides other than case space).

[ZiggyGG]

I don't see the need for ssds, if you'll use it for rendering a hdd will do just fine. I'd also tone down the motherboard, there's really no need for a high end board; for rendering the gpus only need a pcie 1x lane each, so as long as it has enough slots as you need any mid end board will do. Two r9 390s will definitely outperform that quadro by a decent margin, quadros are generally good for cad and such. The power supply is plenty even f you want to add a third or ever 4th card, so no complaints there (bare in mind you can always use a second power supply if you want to, there are no downsides other than case space).

So I´ve changed mobo for Asus Z170 PRO GAMING Intel Z170 LGA 1151 ATX with PCI slots, others had only 2. I couldn't find one with 4x PCI slots.

Also I keept 128GB SSD for OS and change second one for HDD WD Black 3 TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB - 3,5".

Anything else?

[Sauron]

So I´ve changed mobo for Asus Z170 PRO GAMING Intel Z170 LGA 1151 ATX with PCI slots, others had only 2. I couldn't find one with 4x PCI slots.

Also I keept 128GB SSD for OS and change second one for HDD WD Black 3 TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB - 3,5".

Anything else?

 

you can use these to slot more gpus in

 

[ZiggyGG]

you can use these to slot more gpus in

What's that and where I connect that?

[Sauron]

What's that and where I connect that?

 

it's a pcie riser. You slot it in a 1x (or 2x or 4x...) slot on your motherboard and you connect the gpu to it, then you mount the gpu to the case. That way you can use all of your motherboard's slots for gpus if you so desire. They can be found on amazon.

[ZiggyGG]

it's a pcie riser. You slot it in a 1x (or 2x or 4x...) slot on your motherboard and you connect the gpu to it, then you mount the gpu to the case. That way you can use all of your motherboard's slots for gpus if you so desire. They can be found on amazon.

Ok. Do you think that I should change anything else in this rendering set?

BTW I can't find support for CrossFire in this 390s

EDIT: Ok. I need buy R9 390X