SSDs Question!?

[ViruZ_HUN]

Why is SSDs so small?

 

we do thye need to be that small?

 

i mean if u do such small thing and hardly put a 1tb in it why it need to be that small?

 

for me a ssd could be big as a HDD and have bigger capacity and still be an ssd.

If ssds would be big as a hdd then they could even put 3-4 tb in it. and it would be cheap to buy a 1 tb ssd becuze there exist bigger?

 

 

whos with that ssds dont need to be that small?

[Volbet]

The flash doesn't get cheaper just because you build it bigger. There currently is not reason why a consumer level SSD should be build in a 3,5" form factor

[M-ursu]

Because they do not need to be bigger, and current triple level flash cant handle more than 1TB.

Did you know that PCB is not even near of the size of SSD.

[MrSuperb]

They are that small because in the long run it is cheaper to manufacture smaller chips. (because you can fit more chips on a single silicon waffer).  

[WoodenMarker]

With HDD's 3.5", drives were faster but if they could get the same speeds from a 2.5" they would have moved all drives to 2.5". With SSD's there is no speed benefit from making the drive bigger so making them physically larger will just mean higher material cost.

 

This also improves compatibility because instead of having to produce 2 sizes, they just make a small drive that fits laptops and desktops.

[X1XNobleX1X]

Uh........ 

HDDs have recently became 3-4TB and HDDs have been out for quite some time. The reason why manufacturers cannot put 3-4 TB is because the level flash is limited to 1TB (I think) Is holding us back. 

You know baby steps. We have 1TB SSDs coming out soon. Technology is growing fast with storage, and soon we will see 3-4TB, just at a very,very high price tag. 

[Skyfire]

They become expensive when they have to make larger chips and more transistors, and aren't really made for large media because of the read/write operations it would have to do. Typically made for OS because of the simple read operations and why a SSD can last a long time if you caress it with your love.

[ViruZ_HUN]

Because they do not need to be bigger, and current triple level flash cant handle more than 1TB.

Did you know that PCB is not even near of the size of SSD.

 

do u mean the PCIe ssds. its too expensive around 10000 euro..

[MrSuperb]

Also 2.5" SSDs will disappear sooner or later, as not even the 1TB 840 evo fills up the room of a 2.5" drive ...

 

 

500GB/1TB Samsung 840 EVO on the left / 120GB Samsung EVO on the right

[ViruZ_HUN]

 

With HDD's 3.5", drives were faster but if they could get the same speeds from a 2.5" they would have moved all drives to 2.5". With SSD's there is no speed benefit from making the drive bigger so making them physically larger will just mean higher material cost.

 

This also improves compatibility because instead of having to produce 2 sizes, they just make a small drive that fits laptops and desktops.

 

 

but HDDs is bigger in size and caoacity and they still is cheap..

[MG2R]

• SSDs come in a 2.5" form factor because that means they can be installed in both desktops and laptops, making the market for the manufacterers bigger, thus reducing the cost of fabricating one unit.
• If they would make 3.5" drives, they could potentially put more flash chips in it, but this would in turn require a way more complex controller, thus increasing the cost even more.
• Because SSDs are only really worth the money if you want to run programs and your OS of it, people most likely won't need more than 1TB in one SSD, thus lowering the demand of such big drives.

The above three points show you that it is economically more viable to go with a 2.5" standard.

[looney]

2.5 is more then big enough. with the smaller new evo drives the pcb is only half the size of the case for example.

 

[ViruZ_HUN]

Uh........ 

HDDs have recently became 3-4TB and HDDs have been out for quite some time. The reason why manufacturers cannot put 3-4 TB is because the level flash is limited to 1TB (I think) Is holding us back. 

You know baby steps. We have 1TB SSDs coming out soon. Technology is growing fast with storage, and soon we will see 3-4TB, just at a very,very high price tag. 

 

so when we see 4 tb ssds the 1-3 tb ssds will be cheap?

[ViruZ_HUN]

aha. saw neweegs unboxing and a ssd is that small when he pick it apart:D i thought it was bigger

[M-ursu]

do u mean the PCIe ssds. its too expensive around 10000 euro..

No

[X1XNobleX1X]

2.5 is more then big enough. with the smaller new evo drives the pcb is only half the size of the case for example.

 

 

That video there is showing a 250gb SSD. Not the 1TB, if that's what you were meaning. 

[WoodenMarker]

but HDDs is bigger in size and caoacity and they still is cheap..

Ssds are more expensive because it costs more to manufacturer. Size doesn't determine pricing just as how a piece of plywood wouldn't cost more than a smaller nugget of gold.

so when we see 4 tb ssds the 1-3 tb ssds will be cheap?

Maybe. I doubt 1-3TB ssds would cost more than 4TB ssds. 

Whether something is cheap or not is relative.

 

Edit: The question in your original post is loaded. Ssds do not NEED to be small. It's just more practical to make them smaller.

[X1XNobleX1X]

so when we see 4 tb ssds the 1-3 tb ssds will be cheap?

No way. If you think about it, the price per gigabyte at the moment is near a 1:1 ratio. Which means if you bought a Samsung Evo 1TB it would probably cost $1000+. 

[ViruZ_HUN]

Ssds are more expensive because it costs more to manufacturer. Size doesn't determine pricing just as how a piece of plywood wouldn't cost more than a smaller nugget of gold.

Maybe. I doubt 1-3TB ssds would cost more than 4TB ssds. 

Whether something is cheap or not is relative.

 

Edit: The question in your original post is loaded. Ssds do not NEED to be small. It's just more practical to make them smaller.

aha now i understand.

[looney]

That video there is showing a 250gb SSD. Not the 1TB, if that's what you were meaning.

that's why I said that the smaller ones where small :P

They don't make consumer drives over 1TB because there is no big market for them.

And by the time there is a marked for them the size of chips will already have shrunk so it will likely stay in the 2,5" format for a while.

[ViruZ_HUN]

No way. If you think about it, the price per gigabyte at the moment is near a 1:1 ratio. Which means if you bought a Samsung Evo 1TB it would probably cost $1000+. 

 

in sweden prices already came out: i tb 840 evo: 500 euro

[MrSuperb]

in sweden prices already came out: i tb 840 evo: 500 euro

 

I bet this will drop below 400€ until end of 2013

[looney]

Which means if you bought a Samsung Evo 1TB it would probably cost $1000+.

right now a 1TB evo is roughly 550EUR ($730)

[X1XNobleX1X]

in sweden prices already came out: i tb 840 evo: 500 euro

That's interesting, I would of thought it would be more expensive, $600 isn't too bad. I remember when I bought my 480GB Intel 520 when it came out, it cost me $1000

[ViruZ_HUN]

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