Skylake or x99

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I am about to make a new build that will be for:

-Alot of Gaming

-Some Photoshop

-schoolwork

-streaming games 

-little multitasking

 

Would a 6700k be good enough for these needs? or should i hop on the x99 train and go with a 5820k or something else?

 

What are your thoughts, and budget on this build isnt an issue so i could easily afford either one! 

 

 

Thanks for help in advance!

[ADZ_123_!"£]

If you can afford it then a 5820K will help for game streaming.

[CydiaDash]

Hmm... probably X99

[FireFox]

At the moment I would go with X99 unless you fancy waiting for Skylake to come down in price. Also have you thought about Z97 and a Core i5-4690K, I think that would be ideal for your needs unless you need a lot of CPU threads and if that is the case then the Core i7-4790K could be worth a look.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Depends, z170 is better feature set. x99 is cheaper here and now. Yea that sounds odd right? But it is true.

 

Also x99 is weaker single core by a fairly decent margin, but is going to obliterate z170 on stuff that can use more than 4 threads.

[blueballs]

x99

[tomas710]

I am about to make a new build that will be for:

-Alot of Gaming

-Some Photoshop

-schoolwork

-streaming games 

-little multitasking

 

Would a 6700k be good enough for these needs? or should i hop on the x99 train and go with a 5820k or something else?

 

What are your thoughts, and budget on this build isnt an issue so i could easily afford either one! 

 

 

Thanks for help in advance!

For streaming and photoshop you will benefit much more from the extra cores of the 5820K than the slight architectural improvements of skylake. I would go X99 in your case.

[Imakuni]

Depends, z170 is better feature set. x99 is cheaper here and now. Yea that sounds odd right? But it is true.

 

Also x99 is weaker single core by a fairly decent margin, but is going to obliterate z170 on stuff that can use more than 4 threads.

(Assuming US) Where in internet can one find x99 for cheaper? Using partpicker, the cheapest 2011-3 mobo goes for 160$, where as Skylake goes for 110. The 5820k is also a bit more expensive (VS the i7), but once you consider that the i5 will do just as fine for his needs, the 5820k becomes A LOT more costy. RAM is the same, but the other 2 main components aren't that close in price.

[Curufinwe_wins]

(Assuming US) Where in internet can one find x99 for cheaper? Using partpicker, the cheapest 2011-3 mobo goes for 160$, where as Skylake goes for 110. The 5820k is also a bit more expensive (VS the i7), but once you consider that the i5 will do just as fine for his needs, the 5820k becomes A LOT more costy. RAM is the same, but the other 2 main components aren't that close in price.

Midrange skylake atx mobo's go for 180-220 dollars atm.

 

Midrange x99 (because even the cheapest is midrange) is like 180-220 as well (imho best mobo under 200 on the market for any socket is the x99s msi sli plus).

 

An 6700k is basically only available atm for 360+ dollars (worse if you try to snag one of the few on the us market right now and not pay for the preorder pricing), whereas a 5820k can be had at microcenter (and fry's because they price match microcenter yay!) for 280-299.99 dollars depending on the week.

 

Sure i5 vs 5820k its way cheaper for the z170, but really if you are even considering x99 seriously then an i7 is what you are actually looking for.

[Simons]

if budget isn't an issue then go x99, or wait for the skylake X99 equivalent

 

X99 and Skylake costs the same in Europe, so no point in getting Skylake, heck even Broadwell is more expensive.

[DarkSmith2]

Which ever is cheaper, streaming performance on the 6700k is about the same with lesser fps loss ingame.

Its sad people spread false Informations instead of reading reviews correctly.

[DarkSmith2]

X99 and Skylake costs the same in Europe, so no point in getting Skylake, heck even Broadwell is more expensive.

But you have to invest more in a good board. Its only the same when you compare a build with an expansive z170 board vs one of the cheapest x99 boards.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Which ever is cheaper, streaming performance on the 6700k is about the same with lesser fps loss ingame.

Its sad people spread false Informations instead of reading reviews correctly.

Hence my comment above... Either way a 5820k is more than sufficient for all current and past dx11 games, and dx12 will keep the platform top notch for years.

[Curufinwe_wins]

But you have to invest more in a good board. Its only the same when you buy an expansive 170board vs one if the cheapest x99 boards.

And the cheapest x99 boards are still better than the more expensive z170 boards.

 

See the x99s sli plus as a perfect example (although that board is better than some 270 dollar x99 boards.)

[Avalen]

Your demands won't benefit much from the added cores of X99 and Z170 has a wider feature set and somewhat longer feature support over the X99 platform. Although, if you have the loose cash to throw at a rig X99 will give you better performance. You might benefit from waiting for Skylake prices to drop, though.

[DarkSmith2]

Hence my comment above... Either way a 5820k is more than sufficient for all current and past dx11 games, and dx12 will keep the platform top notch for years.

Well dx12.. Its a gamble. But this doesnt matter much, both CPUs will be top notch for years regardless of dx12

[Curufinwe_wins]

Well dx12.. Its a gamble. But this doesnt matter much, both CPUs will be top notch for years regardless of dx12

Truth. But we KNOW dx12 will have massively improved core scaling. (not that that is saying much as dx11 barely touches cores 4-6 at the moment. 95+ percent of workload on three threads YAY!)

[DarkSmith2]

And the cheapest x99 boards are still better than the more expensive z170 boards.

See the x99s sli plus as a perfect example (although that board is better than some 270 dollar x99 boards.)

MSI x99s SLI is crap compared to Asus z170 Hero. Wouldnt go less then x99 gaming7 if choosing 5820k.

In General the z170 are the better boards, newer chipset, newer features, faster RAM well z170 boards are incredibly ahead in everything but pci-e lane count and RAM slot count

[DarkSmith2]

Truth. But we KNOW dx12 will have massively improved core scaling. (not that that is saying much as dx11 barely touches cores 4-6 at the moment. 95+ percent of workload on three threads YAY!)

If you would Google "dx12 CPU scaling" you would find an interesting anandtech preview which is showing Benchmarks that shows a 0.1 fps difference from 4to6 Cores in a synthetic benchmark using dx12 which comes close to games.

DX12 does not magically increase your CPU performance. It just takes care that the GPU is getting fed up to max, where 4 Cores are more then enough to reach this.

[Curufinwe_wins]

MSI x99s SLI is crap compared to Asus z170 Hero. Wouldnt go less then x99 gaming7 if choosing 5820k.

In General the z170 are the better boards, newer chipset, newer features, faster RAM well z170 boards are incredibly ahead in everything but pci-e lane count and RAM slot count

You can use the same ram you know... And the z170 hero is 45 dollars more than the x99s sli plus, and I disagree that it is better in anything other than subjective aesthetics.

 

The chipset decouple is nice yes, but most people won't even use or need it.

[Curufinwe_wins]

If you would Google "dx12 CPU scaling" you would find an interesting anandtech preview which is showing Benchmarks that shows a 0.1 fps difference from 4to6 Cores in a synthetic benchmark which comes close to games.

And there are others that show nearly linear scaling in synthetic benchmarks. So what? We will see, and we still have to rely on lazy developers.

[bomerr]

MSI x99s SLI is crap compared to Asus z170 Hero. Wouldnt go less then x99 gaming7 if choosing 5820k.

In General the z170 are the better boards, newer chipset, newer features, faster RAM well z170 boards are incredibly ahead in everything but pci-e lane count and RAM slot count

I run a ga-x99-ud4 which is one of the cheapest x99 boards. It's been pretty good so far. It's only missing 3 features: usb type-c, m.2 4x slot and wifi. I don't care about the wifi and i can get an add-on card if i want type-c or m.2 4x so it's not a big deal. More importantly there are better entry level mobos out now. 

 

IMO entry level x99 > high-end z170 mobo. 

Edited August 15, 2015 by Godlygamer23

[Curufinwe_wins]

I run a ga-x99-ud4 which is one of the cheapest x99 boards. It's been pretty good so far. It's only missing 3 features: usb type-c, m.2 4x slot and wifi. I don't care about the wifi and i can get an add-on card if i want type-c or m.2 4x so it's not a big deal. More importantly there are better entry level mobos out now. 

 

IMO entry level x99 > high-end z170 mobo. 

Well its funny bomerr because look up the specs on the gaming 7 and the sli plus. THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. Literally NOTHING IS DIFFERENT except for audio isolation and prewrapped software subscriptions.

 

They even share identical I/O's for crying out loud.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Godlygamer23

[Curufinwe_wins]

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I mean for the time being, in most games the top mainstream i7 will beat a 5820k (stock to stock and OC to OC) but not by any significant margin, and certainly not in a way that outdoes the future usability of x99 and its other myriad benefits.

 

It's just that atm x99 is better for the price than z170. By a nice margin. x99 got close to z97, but I don't think it quite got there due to ram price differences. We will see what happens once skylake drops more.

Edited August 15, 2015 by Godlygamer23

[Simons]

But you have to invest more in a good board. Its only the same when you compare a build with an expansive z170 board vs one of the cheapest x99 boards.

 

Not really you can find very good boards for 160$+ like MSI SLI Plus, it has some really cool features. But honestly, if you are going to spare a total of 50$ on a build, you're too picky, get X99.