$600 Gaming PC Building

[JoshB2084]

I have spare money to spend to building 2nd PC for fun.  I want something that play Japanese's Visual Novel and med to heavy   games, I need new case come with PSU, I can sell 2 consoles,(XB360 Elite and 80GB PS3) Don't playing it anymore.

[alexhelvetica]

I have spare money to spend to building 2nd PC for fun.  I want something that play Japanese's Visual Novel and light games, I need new case come with PSU(don't care if crappy PSU, don't worries.) I can take my old 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 and HDD in. And NO AMD CPU!

This is actually the time where you would want an AMD CPU.

Why not AMD?

[Prysin]

You would be best off with a AMD APU. It trashes ANYTHING INTEL OFFERS AT THAT PRICEPOINT.

 

BRANDLOYALTY IS STUPID IF IT GIVES YOU LESS IN RETURN.

 

http://anandtech.com/show/9307/the-kaveri-refresh-godavari-review-testing-amds-a10-7870k/5

 

Here you can see how the AMD APUs litterally RAPE intels offerings with intergrated graphics (your best bet at this price range)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A6-7400K 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACFZ13 36.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $198.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 11:00 EDT-0400

 

Before rebates, i am at 206 USD. you can drop the cooler if you do not want to OC the APU.

 

Below 450-550 USD, going intel isnt really worth it as no part of the system would ever stretch its legs due to too many bottlenecks. AMD simply ROCKS the sub 550 USD segment for a very good reason too.

[minibois]

200 dollars will barely game.

And with such a low budget, you would probably be best off with an APU which AMD has at this price point...

Conclusion: I can't make anything for 200 dollars and an Intel CPU to game.

[DimasRMDO]

With $200 budget and no AMD CPU....
Better to go with APU, it doesn't hurt.

[Ophidio]

Yeah, the AMD A-Series APU would give you much more performance than anything you could get from intel. I understand that Intel may be the best option most of the time but you won't get a "decent" pc for shit at that price range if you go with intel.

[007agentHP]

unfortunately the AMD stuff would kill nvidia at this price point. thake a look :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A85S3 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard  ($56.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $209.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 10:56 EDT-0400

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.00 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-E35 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $187.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 10:58 EDT-0400

[Prysin]

 

unfortunately the AMD stuff would kill nvidia at this price point. thake a look :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A85S3 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard  ($56.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $209.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 10:56 EDT-0400

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($64.00 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-E35 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $187.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 10:58 EDT-0400

 

http://anandtech.com/show/9307/the-kaveri-refresh-godavari-review-testing-amds-a10-7870k

 

again... if he ever wants to play ANY game, then AMD APUs wreck intel no question, ever.

 

Also, go for a seasonic 350W in low power builds, there is no mail in rebates on it, so the 35.99USD price is what you really pay.

with 350w, you can just barely add in a 750TI. Cannot OC it, but you can add it in and get much better performance in the build

[alexhelvetica]

I think I have discovered his problem with AMD 

@Prysin, @Minibois, @DimasRMDO, @Ophidio & @007agentHP

I'm sorry, can't help. I am stuck with AMD for 10 years. I noticed Intel's CPU have no pins on it exchange pins on motherboard, that's big plus. AMD... Well, I was destroying 3 AMD CPUs for last 10 years.... God, I hating AMD CPU pins....

 

So which CPU Brands is likely more easier to installation, AMD or Intel?

 

[Prysin]

 

I think I have discovered his problem with AMD 

@Prysin, @Minibois, @DimasRMDO, @Ophidio & @007agentHP

 

so he blames his own incompetency and carelessness on a brand?

 

that is ridiculous.

[alexhelvetica]

so he blames his own incompetency and carelessness on a brand?

 

that is ridiculous.

I know.

It like that guy who killed 3 motherboard 1 GPU and broke a FX 6300 so blamed it ALL on amd!!!

despite they ONLY made one of those products and it is somehow AMD's fault.

NO-ONE GETS 3 DOA motherboard, 1 DOA GPU and 1 DOA CPU for 1 computer.

[JoshB2084]

Firstly, I don't want AMD anymore. And secondly,  I want to playing  Japanese's Visual Novel and light games.

 

 

I think I have discovered his problem with AMD 

 

 

 

Sadly, it is all true.

 

so he blames his own incompetency and carelessness on a brand?

 

that is ridiculous.

 

I know, it's all my faults.. Now you made me feeling bad.... I love AMD in my whole life.. That's why I going to builds Intel PC again...

[Prysin]

Firstly, I don't want AMD anymore. And secondly,  I want to playing  Japanese's Visual Novel and light games.

 

 

Sadly, it is all true.

 

 

I know, it's all my faults.. Now you made me feeling bad.... I love AMD in my whole life.. That's why I going to builds Intel PC again...

At that pricepoint, intel doesnt make sense.

 

The pentium series are horrible, and would suck balls if you wanted to say, listen to music and play a game at the same time.

The Core series, aka i3, i5 and i7 is awesome. but outside of your price range.

 

You should really, either go with a AMD APU, or save your money until you can afford a decent Intel Core i3 4xxx setup. Which will cost you around 400-450 USD since you already have a HDD and RAM.

[JoshB2084]

OK, how's about this list? That's 2nd Intel build for fun and light game... My other PC is main gaming PC on hold....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 240 2GB Video Card  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $194.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 12:27 EDT-040

 

Will replace.my current AMD A4 3400 APU PC

[Prysin]

OK, how's about this list? That's 2nd Intel build for fun and light game... My other PC is main gaming PC on hold....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($42.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 240 2GB Video Card  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)

Total: $194.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 12:27 EDT-040

 

Will replace.my current AMD A4 3400 APU PC

 

http://anandtech.com...-amds-a10-7870k

 

Please read that, two or three times over.

 

Do you notice the FPS that the G3258 has? the CPU that is above yours?

Do you notice where every AMD APU is on that list?

Do you notice where that 220 USD i5 in relation to the APUs?

 

The GPU you selected is weaker then what is in todays APUs!!!

 

Sorry mate, but you can buy intel all you want. Unfortunatly, at any budget under 450-550 USD, Intel/Nvidia is forever THE LEAST SMART CHOICE, PERFORMANCE TO DOLLAR WISE!!!!

 

EITHER SAVE SOME MORE MONEY, OR BUY AN AMD APU. YOU WONT GET ANY GOOD INTEL AND OR NVIDIA SYSTEM, EVER, UNDER 450 USD

[JoshB2084]

@Prysin

 

Which words you don't understand?????

 

Fun or light???

 

I know current AMD APU is better spec than any Pentium but, that's my idea...

[Prysin]

@Prysin

 

Which words you don't understand?????

 

Fun or light???

 

I know current AMD APU is better spec than any Pentium but, that's my idea...

then waste your money on a inferior build, have "fun" untill you realize you wasted 200 USD for nothing. And please, DO NOT COME BACK HERE AND CRY WHEN THIS SETUP SUCKS BALLS.

 

Everyone in this thread warned you!

[JoshB2084]

OK, I am give up!   Go to back to AMD PC again...

 

How about this one?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI A68HM-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($50.31 @ Mwave)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $195.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 14:25 EDT-0400

[Prysin]

OK, I am give up!   Go to back to AMD PC again...

 

How about this one?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: MSI A68HM-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($50.31 @ Mwave)

Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($32.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $195.28

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-15 14:25 EDT-0400

while it may not have much cable management room, i advice you get the Fractal Design Core 1000. As it has USB 3 ports, the case you selected does not.

 

Also, what speed is the RAM you got already?

[Guest]

At that pricepoint, intel doesnt make sense.

 

The pentium series are horrible, and would suck balls if you wanted to say, listen to music and play a game at the same time.

The Core series, aka i3, i5 and i7 is awesome. but outside of your price range.

 

You should really, either go with a AMD APU, or save your money until you can afford a decent Intel Core i3 4xxx setup. Which will cost you around 400-450 USD since you already have a HDD and RAM.

The whole Pentium series isnt horrible some Pentium processors are great for the price to performance incl. an OC

[JoshB2084]

while it may not have much cable management room, i advice you get the Fractal Design Core 1000. As it has USB 3 ports, the case you selected does not.

 

Also, what speed is the RAM you got already?

 

1333mhz. *sigh*

[Prysin]

1333mhz. *sigh*

with your current AMD APU, you would be better off in general just buying faster RAM. that alone should make it way faster and nippier then it currently is....

 

like, get 1866 or 2133 RAM and a A6 APU... that alone is way way faster....

[Prysin]

edit. my bad, your mobo is FM1... you need a new mobo..

[JoshB2084]

Hmm. I am concern about  Radeon HD 7660D..... I selected AMD A8-7600 with R7... I won't overclocking anything...

[Prysin]

Hmm. I am concern about  Radeon HD 7660D..... I selected AMD A8-7600 with R7... I won't overclocking anything...

how much money do you have at max?

 

like, if you sold some of your old parts etc?

 

and what parts CAN you use, other then the HDD (the ram is useless, too little and too slow. So we need something better)