6700k vs 5820k for pure gaming, a quick help before I order.

[bomerr]

Maybe the reported "overall" CPU usage percentage of the 5820K would be lower than the 4790K, but if you were to actually look at core usage you'd see a similar situation in both cases: the cores actually in use would probably report a similar, relatively high utilization, the others not so much. And while it's true that the 5820K might report a lower overall usage percentage because it has more idle resources than the 4790K, it's an issue of whether or not those extra resources could be used to any great effect by the game in the first place. In most cases that's going to be a no.

 

So once again it comes back around to whether or not you want to bet money on the idea that games released within the useful lifespan of a 5820K will have a significant advantage on a 6/12-core processor compared to a 4/8-core processor. That's not a bet I'd personally take. I think that the greater IPC and clock frequency of an i7-6700K is going to make a better purchase for gaming in the majority of titles.

I have MSI Afterburner setup to give me the reading for each thread separately. 

 

 

Unequivocally FOR DX11 GAMES THE 6700K IS MASSIVELY BETTER.

UNEQUIVOCALLY FOR DX12 GAMES THE 5820K WILL BE AT LEAST MARGINALLY BETTER.

end of question.

It depends on the game. AAA titles this year--2015-- such as GTA V and Witcher 3 shows all 12 threads being used on my 5920k. So the FFS between my 5820k and a 4790k/6700k would be equal if the scaling is perfect and maybe a few FPS (<5) lower is the scaling isn't perfect.  

 

The short answer is this. 5820k at worst will be a few fps (<5) lower RIGHT NOW. However looking into the FUTURE it'll take a much longer time to bottleneck as it's got 2 additional cores. 

[Zeruel]

 

 

 

 

Games that are coded well, will get an FPS increase from the multiples cores, but games that don't use the extra cores will just seek improvement from raw IPC. In which case more jigga hurts == more FPS.

[Simons]

For Gaming, get fastest for Gaming, 6700k

5820k is slow as fuck for gaming unless you watercool and absurdly overclock it.

 

Absurdly overclock it? Not really, most of the chips can get to 4.0 Ghz and i've got mine cranked to 4.5 Ghz, had it sitting at 4.6 Ghz, but couldn't bother with the extra volts, as I am sitting on 1.310.

[DarkSmith2]

Sorry but most dx12 related preview benchmarks show no real performance gain from having more then 4c/8t. Therefore screw 5820k. Sorry for the guys who bought it for gaming.

[bomerr]

Sorry but most dx12 related preview benchmarks show no real performance gain from having more then 4c/8t. Therefore screw 5820k. Sorry for the guys who bought it for gaming.

Did you read anything i said or do you just not understand.

 

CPUS DO NOT MATTER FOR GAMING.

 

GPU = FPS

 

As long as a CPU does not bottleneck [LIMIT] the GPU, FPS will be the same (or roughly the same) between GPUs.

Therefore if an i5 does not bottleneck a GPU, then a i7 4C/8T or 6C or 8C will not matter. 

The advantage of more cores is that there is more room to grow latter.

 

A 4C/8T haswell or skylake will reach 100% CPU utilization aka bottleneck a lot faster than a 6 core haswell-e. 

 

The special bit about the 5820k is that it's only slightly more expensive than a i7-6700k and therefore is actually a good buy. 

[NumLock21]

Sorry but most dx12 related preview benchmarks show no real performance gain from having more then 4c/8t. Therefore screw 5820k. Sorry for the guys who bought it for gaming.

The Gigahertz war has ended like eons ago.

[Curufinwe_wins]

I have MSI Afterburner setup to give me the reading for each thread separately. 

It depends on the game. AAA titles this year--2015-- such as GTA V and Witcher 3 shows all 12 threads being used on my 5920k. So the FFS between my 5820k and a 4790k/6700k would be equal if the scaling is perfect and maybe a few FPS (<5) lower is the scaling isn't perfect.  

 

The short answer is this. 5820k at worst will be a few fps (<5) lower RIGHT NOW. However looking into the FUTURE it'll take a much longer time to bottleneck as it's got 2 additional cores. 

Even with GTA5 etc, the maximum pc reviews disagree at same clocks (although I don't have a 5960x or 6700k with me obviously.)

 

But come dx12, well lol if the 5820k doesn't obliterate the 6700k lots of people be mad.

[Grissm]

Hey:)

I post here because I cant find my self to be able to decide what to take for my newst gaming build.

6/10 posts I read say 5820k is alot better than the 6700k both for gaming right now and for future gaming. due to DX12 might use more cores etc.

Spoke to x2 salesmen and they both say the 6700k is the best option since its brand new.

What Iam afraid of is childissues, smaller problems that usually accurs when a new product arrives. 

I choose between

6700k and a asus z170-a

or a 

5820k and a asus X99-deluxe board

The computer will run 32Gb RAm and 1 or two 980ti Cards.

Keep in mind I know the 5820 build is alot more expensive. but that´s not an issue atm!

is it stupid to spend so much money on 5820 and just go with the skylake?

Thanks in beforehand!

 

Its really pretty simple.

 

You asked what should I get for a gaming rig correct?

 

Then the i7 6700k should be your choice. 

 

The 5820k is really targeted for workstation and productivity such as video editing and other programs that use multiple threads.

 

While DX12 in the future most likely will utilize more cores -- the 6700k will be more than ample for that seeing as how the GPU is really the main concern for graphics/FPS capability. 

[bomerr]

Even with GTA5 etc, the maximum pc reviews disagree at same clocks (although I don't have a 5960x or 6700k with me obviously.)

 

But come dx12, well lol if the 5820k doesn't obliterate the 6700k lots of people be mad.

DX12 will reduce CPU overhead. In other words it'll reduce the cpu power needed to drive games. So weaker GPUs should benefit more from it. For instance the 4690k currently gets bottlenecked in DX11 GTA V 1080p; with DX12 it may not. 

 

The i3 or G3258 should be especially interesting for low-end gamers as DX12 will give them a big boost.

 

On the top tier i7s, DX12 shouldn't change much. (lower cpu usage and better frametimes?) Like I said, it all comes down to this. With a 6 core you have 2 extra cores available to process data and since games today do scale beyond 4 cores it'll mean the 5820k will last longer before bottlenecking the GPU and ultimately needing an upgrade.

 

With 4k and DX12 both reducing CPU usage, my take is that the 5820k will be good all the way until PCIe 3.0 16X gets maxxed out.