I'm a gamer who has no idea about computers and need help!

[lPreM]

I am a gamer who wants to start streaming and does not know anything about computers. I heard that the i7 4790k was a great processor for streaming, so i created a build with it. I then heard about the new i7 5820K and thought that its newer and has 6 cores w/ hyper threading so it must be better! However, because I am not smart with computers i thought of coming here and asking the community. I already have an EVGA GTX 770 4GB and a 1TB SanDisk SSD so I do not need to worry about storage or graphics. Also if you have any suggestions on what else I should add or change they would be much appreciated! These are my two builds:

i7 4790k: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VbKr8d

i7 5820k: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D2kMHx

[connorpiper]

Changed the PSU to a better one. (Fully modular and more efficient, for the same price)

And changed the cooler out for a better one.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ OutletPC) 

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($6.89 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($145.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $944.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:38 EDT-0400

 

BTW: That case is a bit big for what you are doing. 

[YT2002]

I am a gamer who wants to start streaming and does not know anything about computers. I heard that the i7 4790k was a great processor for streaming, so i created a build with it. I then heard about the new i7 5820K and thought that its newer and has 6 cores w/ hyper threading so it must be better! However, because I am not smart with computers i thought of coming here and asking the community. I already have an EVGA GTX 770 4GB and a 1TB SanDisk SSD so I do not need to worry about storage or graphics. Also if you have any suggestions on what else I should add or change they would be much appreciated! These are my two builds:

i7 4790k: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VbKr8d

i7 5820k: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D2kMHx

go with the one with the 5820K. If you decide to get the 4790K one, wait for Skylake CPUS and the core i7 6700k

[Jlryan]

I would have gone with the Quad Core and upgraded the Graphics to something a bit beefier. The GPU's have hardware H.264 encoder/decoders built in, which means you can stream with no noticeable effects to performance.

[Guest]

okay

4790k. you don't need a full tower Use a EVGA Supernova instead of a Corsair CSM and NEVER SAY YOU DON'T NEED STORAGE, YOU'LL KILL THAT POOR SSD

Install WINDOWS and the programs you use MOST ONLY ON THE SSD; something like this will be much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($111.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($109.65 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ OutletPC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $881.56

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:42 EDT-0400

[connorpiper]

 

okay

4790k. you don't need a full tower Use a EVGA Supernova instead of a Corsair CSM and NEVER SAY YOU DON'T NEED STORAGE, YOU'LL KILL THAT POOR SSD

Install WINDOWS and the programs you use MOST ONLY ON THE SSD; something like this will be much better.

 

 

He is fine having everything on the SSD.

[lPreM]

 

okay

4790k. you don't need a full tower Use a EVGA Supernova instead of a Corsair CSM and NEVER SAY YOU DON'T NEED STORAGE, YOU'LL KILL THAT POOR SSD

Install WINDOWS and the programs you use MOST ONLY ON THE SSD; something like this will be much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($111.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($109.65 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ OutletPC) 

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $881.56

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:42 EDT-0400

 

What is your take on liquid cooling, I never feel safe using it just because of the risks that comewith it. I am mainly worried because i plan on using this Comp for a while

[Guest]

He is fine having everything on the SSD.

you'll kill that thing

you should NEVER put EVERYTHING on an SSD, even if you want to you should ALWAYS have a backup drive.

SSD's can and will fail eventually. 

[Guest]

What is your take on liquid cooling, I never feel safe using it just because of the risks that comewith it. I am mainly worried because i plan on using this Comp for a while

Liquid cooling from AIO is fine, its the same as air, just with a radiator and some fans, it gets more difficult when you do full custom loops 

[connorpiper]

you'll kill that thing

you should NEVER put EVERYTHING on an SSD, even if you want to you should ALWAYS have a backup drive.

SSD's can and will fail eventually. 

 

So will HDDs. SSDs are not un-reliable today, that might have been a problem in 2009

[lPreM]

 

Changed the PSU to a better one. (Fully modular and more efficient, for the same price)

And changed the cooler out for a better one.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ OutletPC) 

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($6.89 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($145.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $944.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:38 EDT-0400

 

BTW: That case is a bit big for what you are doing. 

 

Would the Fractal Designs R5 be a better case?

 

And does this mean you recommend the i7 4790K over the i7 5820K?

[Jlryan]

you'll kill that thing

you should NEVER put EVERYTHING on an SSD, even if you want to you should ALWAYS have a backup drive.

SSD's can and will fail eventually. 

Yeah literally after PETABYTES of data WRITTEN, not read

[lPreM]

Liquid cooling from AIO is fine, its the same as air, just with a radiator and some fans, it gets more difficult when you do full custom loops 

So it would be ok if i did decide to go with that? That would also mean i could overclock right???

[TheSLSAMG]

What is your take on liquid cooling, I never feel safe using it just because of the risks that comewith it. I am mainly worried because i plan on using this Comp for a while

I've had three different liquid cooling units, all of which have been reliable. Just buy a good unit from a good brand and don't puncture or bend it.

 

you'll kill that thing

you should NEVER put EVERYTHING on an SSD, even if you want to you should ALWAYS have a backup drive.

SSD's can and will fail eventually. 

And HDDs won't? Written data is a bigger killer, and OP probably won't write enough data to it in 10 years to kill it.

[connorpiper]

Would the Fractal Designs R5 be a better case?

 

And does this mean you recommend the i7 4790K over the i7 5820K?

 

I recommend both, but the 4790K is fine. The R5 is fine too.

[TheSLSAMG]

Would the Fractal Designs R5 be a better case?

 

And does this mean you recommend the i7 4790K over the i7 5820K?

The Define R5 isn't really a better case, both the 750D and R5 are good. Get what you like. As for the CPU, a 5820K is likely overkill for what you're doing.

[lPreM]

I recommend both, but the 4790K is fine. The R5 is fine too.

The only reason i would want to upgrade to the 5829K is so i could use the newer DDR4 ram and use it for much longer. I plan on keeping this build for a while.

[lPreM]

The Define R5 isn't really a better case, both the 750D and R5 are good. Get what you like. As for the CPU, a 5820K is likely overkill for what you're doing.

I am looking for overkill just so i wont have to upgrade as soon as i might have to with the 4790k

[connorpiper]

The only reason i would want to upgrade to the 5829K is so i could use the newer DDR4 ram and use it for much longer. I plan on keeping this build for a while.

 

DDR4 is not much more powerful than DDR3, it is the CPU that would really last you a long time. As the cost of the extra $$. 

[lPreM]

DDR4 is not much more powerful than DDR3, it is the CPU that would really last you a long time. As the cost of the extra $$. 

So would it be better to go with the 5820k?

[stconquest]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($103.74 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $741.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:52 EDT-0400

[connorpiper]

So would it be better to go with the 5820k?

 

If you are willing to pay the price premium for X99, yes. That CPU is super OP and will last a long time. 

[lPreM]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.50 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($103.74 @ Amazon)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.98 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $741.16

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-01 02:52 EDT-0400

Why the i5??? I want to stream so i need the hyperthreading to improve stable quality

[lPreM]

If you are willing to pay the price premium for X99, yes. That CPU is super OP and will last a long time. 

K thank you. And as for OC'ing, would it be worth it to buy an AIO and oc the CPU?? Also is that safe? I have never oc'd and dont know if i trust myself to do it properly

[stconquest]

Why the i5??? I want to stream so i need the hyperthreading to improve stable quality

 

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