Anti aliasing

[xnoobftw]

What should i be running? I dont wanna trade too much performance for eyecandy 

I have the options for 2xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA 

Running total war shogun 2 with my rig in signature

 

And can someone tell me what anisotropic filtering should i run my game at?

 

Im gaming on 1080p

Edited July 10, 2015 by xnoobftw

[ShadowCaptain]

What should i be running? I dont wanna trade too much performance for eyecandy 

I have the options for 2xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA 

Running shogun 2 with my rig in signature

 

depends on the game, run it as high as you can as long as your framerate is over 60

[xnoobftw]

depends on the game, run it as high as you can as long as your framerate is over 60

Playing total war shogun 2 on 1080p!

[minibois]

2 or 4.

Depending on how big the hit is with the game and your rig

[ShadowCaptain]

Playing total war shogun 2 on 1080p!

 

Again, run it as high as you can .. its hard to give you an exact figure, as long as your FPS remains above 60fps, try put AA as high as you can

 

 

there is no optimum.. its just run the settings as high as you can, more is better

[Robin88]

What should i be running? I dont wanna trade too much performance for eyecandy 

I have the options for 2xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA 

Running total war shogun 2 with my rig in signature

 

And can someone tell me what anisotropic filtering should i run my game at?

 

Im gaming on 1080p

Run Anisotropic Filtering at 16x, you should really be running at this in every game on your GPU, it's way more than powerful enough to run it that way in every game, as for Anti-Aliasing, try 4x for that game, it should be fine, but if you feel the framerate is too low then set it to 2x

Your R9 290x is still a beast of a card and can run with lots of AA and as for AF, it's a no brainer, run it at 16x, no matter the game.

[Bittenfleax]

Your R9 290x is still a beast of a card and can run with lots of AA and as for AF, it's a no brainer, run it at 16x, no matter the game.

*gets 40FPS on Arma 3 & Ark Survival*

[Guest]

*gets 40FPS on Arma 3 & Ark Survival*

 

Those are badly optimized...

[theereal]

What should i be running? I dont wanna trade too much performance for eyecandy 

I have the options for 2xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA 

Running total war shogun 2 with my rig in signature

 

And can someone tell me what anisotropic filtering should i run my game at?

 

Im gaming on 1080p

AA usally adds more input lag, however, its up to you, i run it as long as my pc can pull it off, higher is better

[theereal]

*gets 40FPS on Arma 3 & Ark Survival*

Those are just horribly optimized

[Bittenfleax]

Those are badly optimized...

hehe I know 

[xnoobftw]

Run Anisotropic Filtering at 16x, you should really be running at this in every game on your GPU, it's way more than powerful enough to run it that way in every game, as for Anti-Aliasing, try 4x for that game, it should be fine, but if you feel the framerate is too low then set it to 2x

Your R9 290x is still a beast of a card and can run with lots of AA and as for AF, it's a no brainer, run it at 16x, no matter the game.

Woah really? I thought that my top of the line 290x a year ago is pretty mediocre now LOL

Thanks

 

 

AA usally adds more input lag, however, its up to you, i run it as long as my pc can pull it off, higher is better

Input lag? You mean the lag btwn mouse movement and mouse moving on screen?

[Robin88]

Woah really? I thought that my top of the line 290x a year ago is pretty mediocre now LOL

Thanks

 

 

Input lag? You mean the lag btwn mouse movement and mouse moving on screen?

I legitimately canot tell if you're being sarcastic or not

But yeah a 290X is still a beast, it can hang in there with stock 780Ti's and stock 980's and they are by no means slow cards.

Yep that's what he means, but AA by itself doesn't actually add input lag by any significant amount, it's the drop in framerate that comes with AA that does, I'll be damned if I've ever noticed input lag from AA, but I definitely notice it from low framerates, but you might be different, and Total War 2's game engine might suffer from input lag with high AA more than other games, but I don't have any experience with that game in particular so it might be just fine with large amounts of AA, but if you do have issues then knock it down a touch, you won't really notice much of an improvement past 4x anyway so just bear that in mind.

 

[xnoobftw]

I legitimately canot tell if you're being sarcastic or not

But yeah a 290X is still a beast, it can hang in there with stock 780Ti's and stock 980's and they are by no means slow cards.

Yep that's what he means, but AA by itself doesn't actually add input lag by any significant amount, it's the drop in framerate that comes with AA that does, I'll be damned if I've ever noticed input lag from AA, but I definitely notice it from low framerates, but you might be different, and Total War 2's game engine might suffer from input lag with high AA more than other games, but I don't have any experience with that game in particular so it might be just fine with large amounts of AA, but if you do have issues then knock it down a touch, you won't really notice much of an improvement past 4x anyway so just bear that in mind.

 

Im not!!!

I still kinda regretted buying them when they were 550USD (or 700SGD) instead of waiting for the 900 series to release which dropped the price a month after i've bought the 290x D:

Alright! Im running everything maxed out except for AA which is at 2xmsaa 

The game looks amazing for something from 2010

Thank you for your help!

[xnoobftw]

I legitimately canot tell if you're being sarcastic or not

But yeah a 290X is still a beast, it can hang in there with stock 780Ti's and stock 980's and they are by no means slow cards.

Yep that's what he means, but AA by itself doesn't actually add input lag by any significant amount, it's the drop in framerate that comes with AA that does, I'll be damned if I've ever noticed input lag from AA, but I definitely notice it from low framerates, but you might be different, and Total War 2's game engine might suffer from input lag with high AA more than other games, but I don't have any experience with that game in particular so it might be just fine with large amounts of AA, but if you do have issues then knock it down a touch, you won't really notice much of an improvement past 4x anyway so just bear that in mind.

 

And looking at the new tri x fury (non x) what do you think about it while comparing to my 290x tri x?

[Robin88]

Im not!!!

I still kinda regretted buying them when they were 550USD (or 700SGD) instead of waiting for the 900 series to release which dropped the price a month after i've bought the 290x D:

Alright! Im running everything maxed out except for AA which is at 2xmsaa 

The game looks amazing for something from 2010

Thank you for your help!

 

Sorry ^__^; I honestly couldn't tell, my bad

Yeah you really should have hung back a bit and waited, but it's a case of being wise after the fact and everyone is wise on reflection. I wish I had sprung for something with more VRAM when I bought my current GPU as 1.25GB just isn't enough, in hindsight I should have sprung for a HD7870 or something similar, but at the time I didn't know that the VRAM usage would have gone up so much as it has (At the time most games could get away with 512MB of VRAM, and using more than 1GB was very uncommon)

 

But there you go, I made a minor mistake and I'll just have to make up for it when I can

I've heard it looks good, but I also heard the game was very buggy on launch and that's why I haven't played it yet, but even very old games look good when you crank the details and the Total War series has always been a looker

You're welcome, and just as a heads up, you're not really missing anything by only having the AA at 2x, at 1080p you start seeing diminishing returns at more than 4x, and unless you have 20/20 vision you'll not notice aliasing when using 2x AA

 

And looking at the new tri x fury (non x) what do you think about it while comparing to my 290x tri x?

I haven't seen any benchmarks of that GPU yet, but if I've got it right it's about 10-15% faster than a 290X, I'm not sure its worth upgrading to one of those at its current price, I would probably wait and see what happens with price drops and maybe wait and see what nVidias response to the Fury is, they've already dropped the price of the 980Ti, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop it again in time for Christmas and if they do then that'll be the GPU to upgrade to at the moment imho, but even then I would wait and see what comes out next

[xnoobftw]

Sorry ^__^; I honestly couldn't tell, my bad

Yeah you really should have hung back a bit and waited, but it's a case of being wise after the fact and everyone is wise on reflection. I wish I had sprung for something with more VRAM when I bought my current GPU as 1.25GB just isn't enough, in hindsight I should have sprung for a HD7870 or something similar, but at the time I didn't know that the VRAM usage would have gone up so much as it has (At the time most games could get away with 512MB of VRAM, and using more than 1GB was very uncommon)

 

But there you go, I made a minor mistake and I'll just have to make up for it when I can

I've heard it looks good, but I also heard the game was very buggy on launch and that's why I haven't played it yet, but even very old games look good when you crank the details and the Total War series has always been a looker

You're welcome, and just as a heads up, you're not really missing anything by only having the AA at 2x, at 1080p you start seeing diminishing returns at more than 4x, and unless you have 20/20 vision you'll not notice aliasing when using 2x AA

 

I haven't seen any benchmarks of that GPU yet, but if I've got it right it's about 10-15% faster than a 290X, I'm not sure its worth upgrading to one of those at its current price, I would probably wait and see what happens with price drops and maybe wait and see what nVidias response to the Fury is, they've already dropped the price of the 980Ti, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop it again in time for Christmas and if they do then that'll be the GPU to upgrade to at the moment imho, but even then I would wait and see what comes out next

Hmmm so a 980ti upgrade from a 290x is worth it eh.... I was thinking of upgrading when 4k becomes like 1080p... Then I'll probably purchase a 4k monitor tgther with a gpu

I downgraded from 8x to 4x and i couldnt tell a visual difference at all

Here's HWC video about it!

God damm look at that back plate ....

My tri x feels so scrubby now D:

[Robin88]

Hmmm so a 980ti upgrade from a 290x is worth it eh.... I was thinking of upgrading when 4k becomes like 1080p... Then I'll probably purchase a 4k monitor tgther with a gpu

I downgraded from 8x to 4x and i couldnt tell a visual difference at all

 

Here's HWC video about it!

God damm look at that back plate ....

My tri x feels so scrubby now D:

Yeah, I would say it is, but like I say, wait for further price drops if you can, while ever you're still running 1080p I would hold off upgrading for the time being because it doesn't really make sense to get a 980Ti for 1080p.

If you're going for 4K then wait even longer, we're getting there with 4K performance, but it's not perfect and I would wait for next gen before upgrading if you're serious about going for 4K.

I tried 8xMSAA and even tried 16x QCSAA and it didn't really look much better than 4xMSAA so I've never really bothered with much more than that, it really only looks good at 720p and if you're having to run at 720p then you don't have the power to run that kind of AA to begin with so I don't see the point of having such extreme levels of AA.

That looks cool, it's just a shame about the colour combination though, it doesn't really fit with much apart from MSi's M-Power Motherboards and some of the Asus Motherboards, but even so I would not say no to owning one, it'd be a damn amazing upgrade from what I currently have

[TDP_Equinox]

What should i be running? I dont wanna trade too much performance for eyecandy 

I have the options for 2xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA 

Running total war shogun 2 with my rig in signature

 

And can someone tell me what anisotropic filtering should i run my game at?

 

Im gaming on 1080p

Shogun 2 on a 290x? Max it out. That game with run on a 6450...

[xnoobftw]

Yeah, I would say it is, but like I say, wait for further price drops if you can, while ever you're still running 1080p I would hold off upgrading for the time being because it doesn't really make sense to get a 980Ti for 1080p.

If you're going for 4K then wait even longer, we're getting there with 4K performance, but it's not perfect and I would wait for next gen before upgrading if you're serious about going for 4K.

I tried 8xMSAA and even tried 16x QCSAA and it didn't really look much better than 4xMSAA so I've never really bothered with much more than that, it really only looks good at 720p and if you're having to run at 720p then you don't have the power to run that kind of AA to begin with so I don't see the point of having such extreme levels of AA.

That looks cool, it's just a shame about the colour combination though, it doesn't really fit with much apart from MSi's M-Power Motherboards and some of the Asus Motherboards, but even so I would not say no to owning one, it'd be a damn amazing upgrade from what I currently have

Hmmm how soon would you say that 4k will become the 1080p standard? Im waiting for that day to come

I'll probably wait for 2 generation since this 290x set me back quite alot (just a student here with 0 income )

 

Eh i would say it looks pretty good in my setup

Pics can be found at my profile! http://linustechtips.com/main/user/121155-xnoobftw/

(lemme know what you think about the looks )

Woah you're using a 560ti You probably should upgrade (i was using a 660 before this and the experience wasnot as optimal as i liked it to be)

 

 

Shogun 2 on a 290x? Max it out. That game with run on a 6450...

When i have like a maxed out army fighting another maxed out one my frames are starting to fall esp at 8x MSAA tho

[FaZe Booce]

hehe I know 

Arma II is better imo. optimized

[TDP_Equinox]

Hmmm how soon would you say that 4k will become the 1080p standard? Im waiting for that day to come

I'll probably wait for 2 generation since this 290x set me back quite alot (just a student here with 0 income )

 

Eh i would say it looks pretty good in my setup

Pics can be found at my profile! http://linustechtips.com/main/user/121155-xnoobftw/

(lemme know what you think about the looks )

Woah you're using a 560ti You probably should upgrade (i was using a 660 before this and the experience wasnot as optimal as i liked it to be)

 

 

When i have like a maxed out army fighting another maxed out one my frames are starting to fall esp at 8x MSAA tho

I've not played it all that much, so I had no idea about the massive army thing

It may just be a optimization thing, though.

[Robin88]

Hmmm how soon would you say that 4k will become the 1080p standard? Im waiting for that day to come

I'll probably wait for 2 generation since this 290x set me back quite alot (just a student here with 0 income )

 

Eh i would say it looks pretty good in my setup

Pics can be found at my profile! http://linustechtips.com/main/user/121155-xnoobftw/

(lemme know what you think about the looks )

Woah you're using a 560ti You probably should upgrade (i was using a 660 before this and the experience wasnot as optimal as i liked it to be)

 

 

When i have like a maxed out army fighting another maxed out one my frames are starting to fall esp at 8x MSAA tho

I would like to say maybe by the time the next gen rolls along then we might see GPU's powerful enough for 4K 60FPS at a minimum of High details, but with how quickly games have gotten more demanding I would hazard that it might be even longer.

I can sympathise with you, I've got zero income right now too, I'm slowly saving up for a new rig though and I'm gonna get a more powerful GPU as soon as possible but finances are a bitch

Actually I take it back, after seeing it in a rig it looks pretty awesome, I'd still rather pair it with a MSi M-Power or an all black motherboard, but even so, it's still a cool looking bit of kit, and your rig is nice too, gonna have to get myself a new asap, preferably a 2011-3 rig with a 390 or a 390x, cause quad core just isn't cutting it for me any more

It's the 560Ti 448, which is only slightly behind a 570/660 so it isn't that bad, I can still run Crysis 2 maxed out except for AA at 1080p with the Dx11 texture pack at around 50FPS and TW3 at a mixture of medium and high at 35-40FPS, so it isn't actually that slow considering its age, it's the lack of VRAM that kills me, if I have my second monitor switched on while I'm playing TW3 I run out of VRAM and it stutters like crazy.

It's lasted me for 3 years and the main problem has not been performance, it's been the noise, it's a blower style cooler and it's quite loud and hot running, but apart from that it runs like a champ and I've gotten my money's worth out of it, especially cause I got it for like 1/2 it's retail price.

That could be your CPU tbh, games like Total War love a strong CPU from what I've heard and they need it because of the sheer number of objects on screen during large battles, so it might not be your GPU with that game.

[Bittenfleax]

Arma II is better imo. optimized

Yeah, also I think the maps have a lot to do with it such as Takistan.

[xnoobftw]

I would like to say maybe by the time the next gen rolls along then we might see GPU's powerful enough for 4K 60FPS at a minimum of High details, but with how quickly games have gotten more demanding I would hazard that it might be even longer.

I can sympathise with you, I've got zero income right now too, I'm slowly saving up for a new rig though and I'm gonna get a more powerful GPU as soon as possible but finances are a bitch

Actually I take it back, after seeing it in a rig it looks pretty awesome, I'd still rather pair it with a MSi M-Power or an all black motherboard, but even so, it's still a cool looking bit of kit, and your rig is nice too, gonna have to get myself a new asap, preferably a 2011-3 rig with a 390 or a 390x, cause quad core just isn't cutting it for me any more

It's the 560Ti 448, which is only slightly behind a 570/660 so it isn't that bad, I can still run Crysis 2 maxed out except for AA at 1080p with the Dx11 texture pack at around 50FPS and TW3 at a mixture of medium and high at 35-40FPS, so it isn't actually that slow considering its age, it's the lack of VRAM that kills me, if I have my second monitor switched on while I'm playing TW3 I run out of VRAM and it stutters like crazy.

It's lasted me for 3 years and the main problem has not been performance, it's been the noise, it's a blower style cooler and it's quite loud and hot running, but apart from that it runs like a champ and I've gotten my money's worth out of it, especially cause I got it for like 1/2 it's retail price.

That could be your CPU tbh, games like Total War love a strong CPU from what I've heard and they need it because of the sheer number of objects on screen during large battles, so it might not be your GPU with that game.

But the MSI M-power mobo is wayyyy too expensive in my country

Woah that would be a huge jump from your current rig Be sure to tag me when you make a build log

Thank you for your compliment for my rig

Hmmmm but isnt the 4770 capable of running that game easily?