i7-5820k second thoughts? You thoughts/suggestions?

[ItzFeeZyHD]

So I have been really worrying about my processor, that is about the last thing I need to figure out.... Here is my current build.

 

(http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fPQTTW)

(I have to change the RAM, SSD, and HDD, but those should not effect this decision w/ processer)

 

I have originally picked out the Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor with Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard, and I was told by many people it would be well worth it to return the motherboard I have already bought (Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard) and exchange it and get a Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard , with the new motherboard I was told to get the Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor, to take advntage of Haswell (x99) and DDR4.

 

But..... I have been doing alot of research on the Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor... and what I have been hearing was not very supportive in the decision I am going to make. Let me state what I will be doing on this new build. Gaming (Ark, CS:GO, H1Z1, Rust, Everquest 2 (r.i.p ), Steam Games mostly, and maybe a MMO if there is a new good one) at higest quality possible, while streaming and recording. I will also be rendering on the build aswell.

 

Gaming (Max/Highest settings), Twitch streaming via OBS, Recording, and Rendering (Photoshop, C4D (rarely), Sony Vegas).

 

All the videos I have watched are saying it is a complete WASTE of money for gaming, but preforms very well for rendering and such. I need a processer that will preform exceptionally well for rendering, gaming, streaming.

 

So what should I get? Links are appriciated, I just cant seem to find a good CPU that preforms well in every criteria I have listed above.

 

(@DeadEyePsycho, @Reece Leu, @Sam Z Man)

[hak4fun]

I would stick with the 5820k if you have the cash. It will be more then enough for gaming, and great for streaming and rendering.

[mathijs727]

So I have been really worrying about my processor, that is about the last thing I need to figure out.... Here is my current build.

 

(http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fPQTTW)

(I have to change the RAM, SSD, and HDD, but those should not effect this decision w/ processer)

 

I have originally picked out the Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor with Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard, and I was told by many people it would be well worth it to return the motherboard I have already bought (Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard) and exchange it and get a Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard , with the new motherboard I was told to get the Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor, to take advntage of Haswell (x99) and DDR4.

 

But..... I have been doing alot of research on the Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor... and what I have been hearing was not very supportive in the decision I am going to make. Let me state what I will be doing on this new build. Gaming (Ark, CS:GO, H1Z1, Rust, Everquest 2 (r.i.p ), Steam Games mostly, and maybe a MMO if there is a new good one) at higest quality possible, while streaming and recording. I will also be rendering on the build aswell.

 

Gaming (Max/Highest settings), Twitch streaming via OBS, Recording, and Rendering (Photoshop, C4D (rarely), Sony Vegas).

 

All the videos I have watched are saying it is a complete WASTE of money for gaming, but preforms very well for rendering and such. I need a processer that will preform exceptionally well for rendering, gaming, streaming.

 

So what should I get? Links are appriciated, I just cant seem to find a good CPU that preforms well in every criteria I have listed above.

 

(@DeadEyePsycho, @Reece Leu, @Sam Z Man)

Its certainly a good buy.

What they mean with "a waste of money for gaming" is that its "overpowered" for current games as no game uses all 12 threads. That does NOT mean its bad at games (its good, but for gaming an i5 would do just as well).

 

As for the 4930k vs 5820k:

• 4930k has 40PCIe lanes, 5820k "just" 28.
• 5820k uses a newer architecture (faster)
• X99 uses DDR4 and as such is more "future proof"
• 5820k is much cheaper

 

My vote definetely goes to the 5820k

[LukaP]

Just get the 5820k, you lose a few PCIe lanes (not really important in your use case), but gain a newer platform with modern connectivity

[AyBuild]

I think you could run everquest at 5k or more with this build...

[Nena Trinity]

Looks costly!

[Sam Z Man]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Micro Center)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($163.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($122.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)

Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1599.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 16:41 EDT-0400

[Nerykrugeer]

I got the same answers as you, for when I was building mine. Since I was going to do a lot video and 3D render i decide to get the 3930K, and im very happy with that. I overclocked to 4.2Ghz, but put back on stock, just because I got some improvement but the power from stock wasnt letting me down.

 

Good you change to the newer platform, I would do the same.

 

I just check your build, I'm not a pro or anything but why go with the velocirapitor?? if im not wrong the 7200rpm will perfome just as good, have more storage, and with the extra money get a 5930K so you have all 40 PCIe lanes

 

And game well a i5 do just as good, but why the hell not have the i7 with 6 cores and 12 threads when need it.

[Sauron]

The only reason it's a waste for gaming is that it's too good. You won't loose any performance - but you won't get any more of it for paying more. If you use it for rendering and streaming it's worth it

[Sam Z Man]

X99 uses DDR4 and as such is more "future proof"

How is that a reason to get One over the other DDR4 is just as (F-word proof) as DDR3.

[mathijs727]

How is that a reason to get One over the other DDR4 is just as (F-word proof) as DDR3.

Higher bandwidth

 

And as DDR4 becomes mainstream DDR3 will dissapear.

So if you wanna upgrade your memory in a couple of years you wont have to overpay for second hand DDR3

[Sam Z Man]

I think you could run everquest at 5k or more with this build...

Sadly the 980 does not have the GPU power, because at higher resolutions games become much more reliant on the GPU.

[Sam Z Man]

Higher bandwidth

 

And as DDR4 becomes mainstream DDR3 will dissapear.

So if you wanna upgrade your memory in a couple of years you wont have to overpay for second hand DDR3

You can still go buy DDR2 brand new, the higher bandwidth influences almost nothing.

[mathijs727]

You can still go buy DDR2 brand new, the higher bandwidth influences almost nothing.

In my country DDR2 is about 2 times as expensive as DDR3...

And DDR4 will allow for higher capacaties.

 

I will agree that most people would be fine with DDR3

[2FA]

Well, what they mean when they say it is a waste for gaming is that if you are only doing gaming and nothing like recording, video editing, etc. you won't see an improvement over the 4790k but since you will be doing all of that other stuff, it is useful to have a hexacore.. Also, the 4930k you mentioned will perform quite similarly to a 5820k as there is little improvement in Haswell over Ivy Bridge. The performance increase will actually only be around 5%. (source:http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K/2579vs1976)

 

TL;DR They give almost identical performance, and since you already have that Asus board, you might as well get the 4930k.

[2FA]

Also: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/5

[othertomperson]

Wait do you already have a 4930K and a Rampage IV Black Edition, or not? If you're buying outright get the 5820k, but if you're already using Ivy Bridge-E don't bother upgrading.

[bomerr]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Micro Center)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($163.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($122.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)

Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)

Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1599.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 16:41 EDT-0400

i like this build better.

 

I would change the mobo to an ASRock tho and buy it along with the CPU from Microcenter, 

also if possible get rid of the GTX 980 for a 980 TI,

and add 1 1440p display (qnix 2710 dvi-only 96z) instead of 1080p or even 4k if it's in the budget,

lastly install windows 10 beta from MS website as they are giving it out for free. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J48hNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J48hNG/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($184.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($177.89 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($122.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Monitor: QNIX QX2710 Perfect Pixel 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($350.00) 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1588.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 17:51 EDT-0400

 

+200-300 to upgrade from a 980 to a 980 Ti

[ItzFeeZyHD]

Well, what they mean when they say it is a waste for gaming is that if you are only doing gaming and nothing like recording, video editing, etc. you won't see an improvement over the 4790k but since you will be doing all of that other stuff, it is useful to have a hexacore.. Also, the 4930k you mentioned will perform quite similarly to a 5820k as there is little improvement in Haswell over Ivy Bridge. The performance increase will actually only be around 5%. (source:http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K/2579vs1976)

 

TL;DR They give almost identical performance, and since you already have that Asus board, you might as well get the 4930k.

I am going to return the mobo... since the cpu (5820k) is on sale for $299!! a lot cheaper then 550$ for the 4930k!

[ItzFeeZyHD]

Wait do you already have a 4930K and a Rampage IV Black Edition, or not? If you're buying outright get the 5820k, but if you're already using Ivy Bridge-E don't bother upgrading.

Yes i have the MOBO.... but not the CPU..... the 4930 is 550$ and the  5820 is on sale for 299 so I will be returning the MOBO and getting the 5820

[ItzFeeZyHD]

 

i like this build better.

 

I would change the mobo to an ASRock tho and buy it along with the CPU from Microcenter, 

also if possible get rid of the GTX 980 for a 980 TI,

and add 1 1440p display (qnix 2710 dvi-only 96z) instead of 1080p or even 4k if it's in the budget,

lastly install windows 10 beta from MS website as they are giving it out for free. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J48hNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J48hNG/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($184.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($177.89 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($122.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Monitor: QNIX QX2710 Perfect Pixel 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($350.00) 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1588.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-28 17:51 EDT-0400

 

+200-300 to upgrade from a 980 to a 980 Ti

 

lol 60hz monitor.... but i already have the GPU and it would cost alot to send it back, so it is not worth it

[bomerr]

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8

 

this monitor would be really good for CS:GO. 

 

 

lol 60hz monitor.... but i already have the GPU and it would cost alot to send it back, so it is not worth it

 

lol 1080p. also it overclocks to 96hz. 

[ItzFeeZyHD]

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8

 

this monitor would be really good for CS:GO. 

 

 

 

it overclocks to 96hz. 

for that price id rather get https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/

 

Plus I have already bought one of the monitors it just came in today

[bomerr]

The ROG swift is said to have bad quality control and very poor colors and viewing angle. 

[othertomperson]

I am going to return the mobo... since the cpu (5820k) is on sale for $299!! a lot cheaper then 550$ for the 4930k!

 

lolwut. Screw i5, 5820k is apparently the best value cpu lmao