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The FX 8300 has been ordered. Will arrive tomorrow or on monday. I hope tomorrow.

I had to go for the cheapest 8-core version since I got a job and started working on monday so some of my expenses increased (gasoline for traveling with the car and lunch on the job).

I can afford a FX 8300 or a 8320. Not higher.

But those CPU-s are all the same; 8300/8320/8320/8350/8370 - each is unlocked (for overclocking) and the only differences are set voltages and factory set clocks (multiplier).

Buy a old used 8 core if you can anyway, they were binned higher before the 9xxx FX ones came out.

I currently have my 8320 at 3.5GHZ, 1.28V.

I think mine was made 2 years ago and binned good. Only reason i'm not OC now cause i'm using a stock cooler. :/

Not bad for a 8320 on a 4+2 power phase board.

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Buy a old used 8 core if you can anyway, they were binned higher before the 9xxx FX ones came out.

I currently have my 8320 at 3.5GHZ, 1.28V.

I think mine was made 2 years ago and binned good. Only reason i'm not OC now cause i'm using a stock cooler. :/

Not bad for a 8320 on a 4+2 power phase board.

 

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Nice.

 

I can't get a used one, people sell them almost near the price of new ones. Not worth paying 20-30$ less and get a CPU used for 1-2 years on who-knows-what boards or overclocks.

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I used to run a FX 8320 OCd to 4.52GHz, and to be honest, between the obnoxious heat output and the sometimes weird framerates i got in games (mind you, i got a 295x2, even if the game has no CF profile it takes A LOT to make that card not run at 60+ FPS), i can not for the life of me suggest an FX processor

Yes the FX could match or beat the 3770k, but that was the last generation intel. Intel is now on 4690k for the i5, and soon they will move on to 5690k. Honestly, the FX has no chance anymore, it loses out to a 4th gen i3 in many cases.

Is it cheap to buy, not if you want a remotely quiet rig, this thing BEGS for watercooling, if you want to OC you pretty much need to run it on a 140 or 240mm rad, or else your mobo will fry over time as a air cooler will just dump all that heat into your case, and the mobo will then have to try cool its mosfets with airtemps of 35-40+ c.... That aint gonna work, and those mosfets will die over time, a short time i must add.

Just get an intel, or stick with your phenom until Zen.

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It's not a wonder the FX 8320 was a bottleneck to the 295x2, that CPU is a mid-range CPU and that GPU solution is a real high end.

Would be strange if no bottlenecking were visible. You need an CPU like the i7 3770K or newer/better for that card.

The FX 8320 is more like an older gen i5 or an even older i7; the range of the i5 2400 or the i7 860.

It has enough power for modern mid-range cards and lower, might even work nicely with a stronger card with DirectX12 but under DX11 you need really powerfull cores.

 

I'm aiming at a 200$ to 300$ price range for the GPU, so the FX 8-core should be just fine, even a 6-core FX would do (but I think a 8-core is better to buy since I have the money).

 

The most important part is to have your system ballanced. Built to have as less bottlenecks as possible.

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Cheapest FX8 core i've seen is this one
http://ow.ly/P4Owc
$150 + taxes,S/H was $120 back in February 2015

Comparing two FX8's
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8300_vs_AMD_FX-Series_FX-8370.html

If you have the money and the price difference is that much I'd go with the 8300. If you get a 6300 or 6350 I dont see any point changing to an 8 core after that.

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I run an AMD system and a 2500k system (intel system i no longer use, but have benchmarks from it)

 

The 2500k system is only faster when paired with a faster GPU...

 

My Phenom II system is a great performer in everything i throw at it and is actually GPU limited aside from CSGO.. which FPS is in the 170-300FPS range...

 

It is entirely up to you, an FX 8320 at 4.7ghz will give you the game performance of a Phenom II quad at around 4.0ghz, so just be aware, not an efficient architecture at all, and OC'd do not gain it much in gaming prowess, unlike Phenom II and intel chips.

 

 

Here is what my Phenom II can do in CPU limited game..

 

Last CSGO video i did with the FPS overlay on..

 

 

Most CPU bound game i threw at the 2500k...

 

 

 

In BF4, expect the FX to not touch what the 2500k can get, but it will not be unplayable or bad, it will most likely dip under 60 a few times, but BF4 with the res scale turned up will become totally GPU bound.

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In BF4, expect the FX to not touch what the 2500k can get, but it will not be unplayable or bad, it will most likely dip under 60 a few times, but BF4 with the res scale turned up will become totally GPU bound.

LoL...here BF4 running on my AMD FX config, settings completely maxed out @1080p @100% scalling and 4xMSAA:

 

FX-8320@4.4ghz/ GTX 780 1150mhz:

 

 

Unfortunately, not every games ran like that or anywhere near that well, overall CPU is quite slow most of the time when it comes to gaming,...but obviously BF4 is AMD sponsored title very well optimised and spread the load across the CPU very efficiently, as shown in the video.

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I remember this guy did a test on two similar specced cpu's to the ones we're talking about now...

Core i5 3570k vs FX-8350:



Isn't the Sandy bridge 2500k close in specs to the 3570k but slightly inferior to its Ivy bridge counterpart?
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Why not spend the cash on a AIO? It doesn't seem you would benefit much from a FX, can you push your CPU anymore?

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Why not spend the cash on a AIO? It doesn't seem you would benefit much from a FX, can you push your CPU anymore?

I can't, it's not BE.

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and I'm fixed on a FX cpu.

*sigh*

There are many ways to lessen the upgrade cost of switching platforms, such as selling old parts.

There's nothing to contribute to someone who is either close minded or unable to go to the trouble of making a worthwhile upgrade to a system by selling outdated components from a dead platform..

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Hey a fellow Croatian! I went from a phenom II 965 to an fx 6300. On games which used a single core I didn't notice a huge improvement, but programs which use multiple cores I saw a decent jump in performance

I would say go with an 8320 over the 8300 as its a bit newer and better. The only thing I would recommend is a better cooler as the stock one is pretty noisy. A cheap 212 Evo does a great job.

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*sigh*

There are many ways to lessen the upgrade cost of switching platforms, such as selling old parts.

There's nothing to contribute to someone who is either close minded or unable to go to the trouble of making a worthwhile upgrade to a system by selling outdated components from a dead platform..

One would have to sell the "old" and then later buy the new. I can sell the "old" only after buying the new. 

 

Hey a fellow Croatian! I went from a phenom II 965 to an fx 6300. On games which used a single core I didn't notice a huge improvement, but programs which use multiple cores I saw a decent jump in performance

I would say go with an 8320 over the 8300 as its a bit newer and better. The only thing I would recommend is a better cooler as the stock one is pretty noisy. A cheap 212 Evo does a great job.

The 8300 is in fact newer than the 8320. And also, I have two aftermarket coolers for AM3+ - a weaker Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM and a stronger LC Power LC-CC-120 which can cool almost the same as a Hyper 212 Evo (they have the same TDP rating).

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The FX 8300 has been ordered. Will arrive tomorrow or on monday. I hope tomorrow.

I had to go for the cheapest 8-core version since I got a job and started working on monday so some of my expenses increased (gasoline for traveling with the car and lunch on the job).

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  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
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  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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*sigh*

There are many ways to lessen the upgrade cost of switching platforms, such as selling old parts.

There's nothing to contribute to someone who is either close minded or unable to go to the trouble of making a worthwhile upgrade to a system by selling outdated components from a dead platform..

I think he meant that his budget is limited to the FX 8 core range. He could afford the cpu on the budget but not the additional mobo until he sells his current pc.

If this is his only decent interface and its necessary for it to be available at all times. Selling it and having downtime may not be a viable option.

 

The FX 8300 has been ordered. Will arrive tomorrow or on monday. I hope tomorrow.

I had to go for the cheapest 8-core version since I got a job and started working on monday so some of my expenses increased (gasoline for traveling with the car and lunch on the job).

Grats on your purchase I got mine February 2015 and I'm pleased with this cpu.

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