AMD is "Transforming"

[Mario-]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Rory-Reed-2Q-2013-Xbox-PLayStation-Temash,23597.html

 

"Our focus on restructuring and transforming AMD resulted in improved financial results," Read said. [...] "We expect significant revenue growth and a return to profitability in the third quarter."

AMD said that for 3Q 2103, it expects to see revenue to increase 22 percent, plus or minus 3 percent, sequentially. That's likely because the company's APU will be appearing in the Xbox One and Playstation 4 this fall, and it already has a chip in Nintendo's struggling Wii U.

 

 

 

Comment: 

If Steamroller can continue the +15% improvement, then the competition will really tighten seing how Haswell is barely 5% faster than 2 generations old Sandy Bridge.

New APUs will rule the world, if the same 15% applies there (hopefully with new GPUs)

In the fall the money will start flowing with the sell of the next-gen consoles.

Once HD9000 launches, expect AMD to rule over Nvidia easily.

As far as I'm concerned, AMD is pretty much set.

 

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Cant wait for October. HD9000 Series hopeing to upgrade from my GTX 560ti it's too hot and too loud.

[chromeboy42]

And perhaps maybe some mATX boards for high end chips for a change?

What about Mini ITX?

[Mario-]

Mini itx would be such a great idea.
If Asus made a MoBo like the one with the extra pcb for vrm, and have a new steamroller 4,5 ghz cpu in something like a prodigy, that would blow away every intel solution in that pricepoint  imo

[Vitalius]

I'll believe it when I see it. As long as AMD's number are all inflated, I won't trust or recommend them unless the budget demands it. 

Hopefully the new CPU's will be more reliable core for core.

Hopefully the 9000 series won't have bad frame latency/stuttering.

But we will see.

[Fetzie]

The fact that they managed to get their books in order so that they are no longer making a loss every quarter in an economy with businesses folding right, left and centre and even cities going bankrupt with 15 billion dollars of debt speaks a lot about how AMD has turned their business around.

 

I really hope they can get some competition into the desktop market, maybe integrate top level GPU chips on their APU, so that you can crossfire it with a decent dedicated card (crossfire performance in an mITX form factor would be something that neither Intel nor nVidia could compete with).

[LifesCompanion]

I don't think comparing Haswell to the current/next generation AMD APU/CPU is fair. The design ethos of Haswell was to minimise power consumption as much as possible without compromising performance, however, AMD's latest APU/CPU have not been based around such ethos, rather it was more like" screw lower power consumption, we want more jigahertz"
 

Also, looking NVIDIA's roadmap, it has a lot of potential behind it, whether they will execute it well, I have no idea. I'm pretty sure I'll get some flack for what I'm about to say but... 

I SMELL AMD FANBOYS HERE
Note: I am not an Intel nor a NVIDIA fanboy, as long as it does what I want it to do, I'm happy. 

[Mario-]

I really hope they can get some competition into the desktop market, maybe integrate top level GPU chips on their APU, so that you can crossfire it with a decent dedicated card (crossfire performance in an mITX form factor would be something that neither Intel nor nVidia could compete with).

IF they get that stuttering and latency problem fixed.

But if they do, it would be pretty awesome.

[mvitkun]

I'll believe it when I see it. As long as AMD's number are all inflated, I won't trust or recommend them unless the budget demands it. 

Hopefully the new CPU's will be more reliable core for core.

Hopefully the 9000 series won't have bad frame latency/stuttering.

But we will see.

That's only for Crossfire,and supposedly Radeon Pro fixes it.

Though as to a hardware metering solution like Nvidia's,I doubt they'll have it with the HD 9000 series,although they should have drivers for it ready soon.

[Fetzie]

IF they get that stuttering and latency problem fixed.

But if they do, it would be pretty awesome.

 

The fact that they had a working prototype driver within two months of acknowledging the issue, and a release planned for the WHQL version only 6 months down the line (next week) speaks volumes about them taking it seriously and actively working on a fix.

[sonarctica]

IF they get that stuttering and latency problem fixed.

But if they do, it would be pretty awesome.

Didn't they say they wouldn't release new GPU's before it is fixed?

[Fetzie]

That's only for Crossfire,and supposedly Radeon Pro fixes it.

Though as to a hardware metering solution like Nvidia's,I doubt they'll have it with the HD 9000 series,although they should have drivers for it ready soon.

If a software solution fixes it (RadeonPro does and that isn't even AMD software) why waste PCB space on a hardware solution when that PCB space could be used for higher performance?

[That Norwegian Guy]

I just turned this entire thing into an MMORPG general chat in my head...

 

AMD: Ding! Level 2 bitches!

Nvidia: That's cute. (Is level 80 and full of epics)

[Vitalius]

That's only for Crossfire,and supposedly Radeon Pro fixes it.

Though as to a hardware metering solution like Nvidia's,I doubt they'll have it with the HD 9000 series,although they should have drivers for it ready soon.

Well, from what I've seen, the frame latency/jitter, even on singe GPU cards for AMD pretty much sucks. I remember Linus doing a video on it but can't find it anymore. It basically explained that FPS wasn't everything as the quality of that FPS matters quite a bit. 

The thing that crossfire causes and the innate frame latency on AMD Single GPU cards are sort of two different things that are only similar. At least that's how I've come to understand it. I could be very wrong. Who knows. 

Not saying AMD GPU's are unplayable/horrible, since they work, but I prefer quality over quantity. Because of the frame latency/jitter, lower FPS on AMD GPU's feels more unplayable than lower FPS on Nvidia GPU's.

This is why I say their numbers are "inflated". Their cores aren't really whole cores (as Linus explained) and the high FPS they do get is plagued with high frame latency making it a bit moot to get high FPS. Though, that was indeed fixed by RadeonPro apparently according to benchmarks.

[SKOONJar]

Like LifesCompanion said its really not a fair comparison as Haswell is a lower power based platform and amds chip that comes close to it consumes 3 times as much power even more when overclocked. Not being a intel fanboy I own a intel and a amd based system.

[Vitalius]

Like LifesCompanion said its really not a fair comparison as Haswell is a lower power based platform and amds chip that comes close to it consumes 3 times as much power even more when overclocked. Not being a intel fanboy I own a intel and a amd based system.

Could you imagine if Intel went all-out and made a CPU that was pure enthusiast that consumed the power of AMD's CPU? 

I think a Dodeca-core at 4.0+GHz would be bawlin' (that's 12). ... It'd probably cost $5,000-$10,000. 

Note for you European/Eastern world people, the comma in the US represents a separation by digits. Our $5,000.00 = your 5.000,00

Confusing. Very confusing.

[Anubikai]

intel will only release a good cpu when amd pose a serious threat in the enthusiast market. Atm no one will be buying a 9590 or whatever that 5.0ghz chip is called for gaming......just like many try to push for intel over amd for gaming. The per core performance is just better on intel........and all the multithreaded workload games crap is kinda useless atm.....plus intel still has its i7's for that area.......hopefully with both intel and amd releasing their new chips in 2014 we see them fighting it out for whos better....

 

-Anubikai

[onionring]

and all the multithreaded workload games crap is kinda useless atm....

-Anubikai

i supposed you never edited a vid/photo, did simulation work or other kind of computer intensive work...

but for gaming it s useless atm that s true...

but it ll change soon with console having a AMD 8 core 1ghz cpu, ports will be optimised for multithreaded cpus...

(they better be or game performance will be close to a atom netbook)

[TechFan@ic]

That also would be great. I think AMD missed out on a market there by having a policy of only having fx chips on ATX boards

They don't have such policy according to JJ from Asus there wasn't a clear demand for such boards.

[EmmaLong]

I just turned this entire thing into an MMORPG general chat in my head...

 

AMD: Ding! Level 2 bitches!

Nvidia: That's cute. (Is level 80 and full of epics)

Hahaha, funny thing is, AMD at level 2 completely destroys nvidia at level 80, how funny is that !? Nvidia needs to step up its game and not get ganked by smurfs.

[sof006]

i supposed you never edited a vid/photo, did simulation work or other kind of computer intensive work...

but for gaming it s useless atm that s true...

but it ll change soon with console having a AMD 8 core 1ghz cpu, ports will be optimised for multithreaded cpus...

(they better be or game performance will be close to a atom netbook)

The 8 core CPU in both consoles does not have a specified "GHz" so saying 1GHz is incorrect. Although saying this it would more likely be 2/2.5 GHz

[EmmaLong]

The 8 core CPU in both consoles does not have a specified "GHz" so saying 1GHz is incorrect. Although saying this it would more likely be 2/2.5 GHz

It's actually at a base clock of 1.6Ghz and boosts up to 2.3Ghz.

[sof006]

It's actually at a base clock of 1.6Ghz and boosts up to 2.3Ghz.

How do you know this? Is this just a rumour or has Microsoft and Sony validated this? If not then it isn't true.

[PCBudgetSolutions]

I would like to see a new AMD architecture.  This 2 core per module design with 1 floating integer is VERY in-efficient.  Throwing more IPC's, core and GHz at a 32 pipeline structure isn't going to scale performance as well as they'd like.

[EmmaLong]

How do you know this? Is this just a rumour or has Microsoft and Sony validated this? If not then it isn't true.

The 1.6Ghz is the official clock speed, 2.3Ghz is the turbo speed similar Jaguar processors achieve.