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8350 & a noctua D14 or something comparable (perhaps cheaper) would be better. 

212's are ok but i had poor luck oc'ing a 8150 on a 212 in the past. (they do run hotter than 8350's tho). 

either way the AMD chips put out some serious heat you might want something a bit better than a 212 

 

I should add im saying you will need to OC the 8350 to attempt at alleviating the bottleneck to your 290. 

 

A better strategy might be finding a used z87 / z97 & 4570k/4670k for a few more $ it will definitely last you longer in the end. 

Hello,

 

So i bought a 290 recently i after playing a while i notice performance is pretty bad..

I bought witchter 3 and i runs at 20 - 30 fps even at medium.

Gta is also unplayable at medium in cities.

I checked some benchmarks on W3 and the 290 should handle high.

 

Now some people said my cpu bottlenecks my gpu and i know this but they said i shouldnt worry too much.

Could it be such a impact on fps cause off the bottleneck?

I also did a clean install on all drivers with guru did not work.

 

specs : 

fx6100

290 asus

asrock 970 extreme 4

8gb ram gskill 

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Thanks guys.

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Download MSI afterburner and check what your GPU usage is at, if it's not in the high 90s, you could be looking at a CPU bottleneck.

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Download MSI afterburner and check what your GPU usage is at, if it's not in the high 90s, you could be looking at a CPU bottleneck.

 

i tested rust and its constantly fluctauting but it never gets over 80..

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i tested rust and its constantly fluctauting but it never gets over 80..

 

Yep, your CPU is holding back your 290 pretty bad. ;) Should stay pegged at 100% most of the time in-game.

 

Upgrade to an i5 and new motherboard if you can.

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Yep, your CPU is holding back your 290 pretty bad. ;) Should stay pegged at 100% most of the time in-game.

 

Upgrade to an i5 and new motherboard if you can.

I cannot, im 17 full time school with almost no work. can't afford it. you think a 8350 would be any good?

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I cannot, im 17 full time school with almost no work. can't afford it. you think a 8350 would be any good?

 

No, not really.  Games prefer 4 very strong cores, so adding 2 more weak cores won't help, your first 4 cores that most games use will still be weak.

 

Invest in an aftermarket cooler and overclock, that's your best option. 

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I cannot, im 17 full time school with almost no work. can't afford it. you think a 8350 would be any good?

 

8320 or 8350 would be much better than what you have, yes. But it will still  hold it back to a degree in certain games. 

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No, not really.  Games prefer 4 very strong cores, so adding 2 more weak cores won't help, your first 4 cores that most games use will still be weak.

 

Invest in an aftermarket cooler and overclock, that's your best option. 

 

The first gen FX CPUs (41XX, 61XX, 81XX) were pretty weak. 8320/8350 would be quite a bit better than the 6100. 

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search for used I5 4670k with Z87 board. 

Should be able to find something pretty cheap. 

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search for used I5 4670k with Z87 board. 

Should be able to find something pretty cheap. 

 

Used.. mhhh..

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search for used I5 4670k with Z87 board. 

Should be able to find something pretty cheap. 

Can't i want too but i can't turning 18 also incurance, car, car licence etc coming in. (car license alone is 2000$ in netherlands). 

 

I think best for me would invest in a 8350 + 212 evo cooler and then overclock?. 

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Test with MSI Afterburner.

 

If your CPU bottleneck then get a new.

 

If not check drivers and then hardware after.

 

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Can't i want too but i can't turning 18 also incurance, car, car licence etc coming in. (car license alone is 2000$ in netherlands). 

 

I think best for me would invest in a 8350 + 212 evo cooler and then overclock?. 

 

How about I5 4460+ MB. 

I know it will cost more but investing in a decent hardware will last you longer. 

 

I just don't want you to regret after spending decent amount of money. 

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8350 & a noctua D14 or something comparable (perhaps cheaper) would be better. 

212's are ok but i had poor luck oc'ing a 8150 on a 212 in the past. (they do run hotter than 8350's tho). 

either way the AMD chips put out some serious heat you might want something a bit better than a 212 

 

I should add im saying you will need to OC the 8350 to attempt at alleviating the bottleneck to your 290. 

 

A better strategy might be finding a used z87 / z97 & 4570k/4670k for a few more $ it will definitely last you longer in the end. 

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Can't i want too but i can't turning 18 also incurance, car, car licence etc coming in. (car license alone is 2000$ in netherlands). 

 

I think best for me would invest in a 8350 + 212 evo cooler and then overclock?. 

Frankly, selling your CPU+Mobo and getting a cheap H97/H87 board with an i5-4440 will cost you almost as much, and won't normally even bottleneck a Titan X.  It seems a shame for you to spend $150 on an 8350+cooler for less of a bottleneck, but still a bottleneck. 

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Frankly, selling your CPU+Mobo and getting a cheap H97/H87 board with an i5-4440 will cost you almost as much, and won't normally even bottleneck a Titan X.  It seems a shame for you to spend $150 on an 8350+cooler for less of a bottleneck, but still a bottleneck. 

 

Yeah im going to do that guys. 

 

 

btw amd 8350 is 210 $ here LOL. 

 

thanks for all the suggestions.

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Hello,

 

So i bought a 290 recently i after playing a while i notice performance is pretty bad..

I bought witchter 3 and i runs at 20 - 30 fps even at medium.

Gta is also unplayable at medium in cities.

I checked some benchmarks on W3 and the 290 should handle high.

 

Now some people said my cpu bottlenecks my gpu and i know this but they said i shouldnt worry too much.

Could it be such a impact on fps cause off the bottleneck?

I also did a clean install on all drivers with guru did not work.

 

specs : 

fx6100

290 asus

asrock 970 extreme 4

8gb ram gskill 

530ww gold graded bequiet psu

 

Thanks guys.

 

Before anything else, download display driver uninstaller and do a clean reinstall of the latest beta drivers.  I know you did it already.  Do it again.

 

Anyway, the FX6100 can hold you back in GTA V quite a bit, depending on clockspeeds.  Again though, lowering or increasing your quality settings won't have a huge effect because it's a CPU limiting issue and not a GPU horsepower issue.

 

In Witcher 3 though it shoudn't be nearly as bad, and if it were the CPU your framerate would be identical regardless of settings.

https://youtu.be/Rutk9ErhKG4?t=165

 

To eliminate the CPU as a factor, can you compare your framerates running on High settings in both games to your current framerates?

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Before anything else, download display driver uninstaller and do a clean reinstall of the latest beta drivers.  I know you did it already.  Do it again.

 

Anyway, the FX6100 can hold you back in GTA V quite a bit, depending on clockspeeds.  Again though, lowering or increasing your quality settings won't have a huge effect because it's a CPU limiting issue and not a GPU horsepower issue.

 

In Witcher 3 though it shoudn't be nearly as bad, and if it were the CPU your framerate would be identical regardless of settings.

https://youtu.be/Rutk9ErhKG4?t=165

 

To eliminate the CPU as a factor, can you compare your framerates running on High settings in both games to your current framerates?

will do.

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Hello,

 

So i bought a 290 recently i after playing a while i notice performance is pretty bad..

I bought witchter 3 and i runs at 20 - 30 fps even at medium.

Gta is also unplayable at medium in cities.

I checked some benchmarks on W3 and the 290 should handle high.

 

Now some people said my cpu bottlenecks my gpu and i know this but they said i shouldnt worry too much.

Could it be such a impact on fps cause off the bottleneck?

I also did a clean install on all drivers with guru did not work.

 

specs : 

fx6100

290 asus

asrock 970 extreme 4

8gb ram gskill 

530ww gold graded bequiet psu

 

Thanks guys.

 

I'm running gta 5 on very high-ultra 1080p solid 50-60fps with my 290

 

Your CPU is probably the problem

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