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We don't know what the alternative would be...

 

that said 1000€ isn't exactly cheap for that build, and the 8350 will be holding back the 290x. I'd recommend building something like this instead:

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.30 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $956.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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since someone pointed it out, I know the prices here are in $. I just wanted to make you a parts list. The price shouldn't be that far off where you live, and this build would be superior to the one your linked.
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My friend is planning on getting a new desktop soon, and plans on following PCGamer's high-end build guide.

 

His budget is around 1800€, though he'd want to save money where possible.

I, however, was browsing tweedehands (tldr a dutch ebay so to speak), and found this gem, for 1000€. I suggested getting that and spending the rest of his budget getting SLI and maybe watercooling.

Because I don't want to steer him wrong, as he's seriously considering it, I'd like your opinions on the two different setups.
 

 

EDIT: updated the link to PCGamer's build guide, forgot to add it, sorry.
EDIT2: added his budget.

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We don't know what the alternative would be...

 

that said 1000€ isn't exactly cheap for that build, and the 8350 will be holding back the 290x. I'd recommend building something like this instead:

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.30 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $956.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-20 08:12 EDT-0400
 
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since someone pointed it out, I know the prices here are in $. I just wanted to make you a parts list. The price shouldn't be that far off where you live, and this build would be superior to the one your linked.

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That rig is not worth 1000€. The cpu will bottleneck the gpu and for the same money, you could make a way better rig.

 

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I would try snatching up that 290x if Ι cοuld.

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We don't know what the alternative would be...

that said 1000$ isn't exactly cheap for that build, and the 8350 will be holding back the 290x. I'd recommend building something like this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($259.86 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.50 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($68.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.30 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $956.71

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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You linked USA prices they are different from the Dutch prices.

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You linked USA prices they are different from the Dutch prices.

 

Not the point, that build would be better. And shouldn't be much more expensive.

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Thank you very much. I updated my original post with his budget and the link to PCGamer's build guide, if that'll change anything.

As far as I know, (to add more detail) he wants 1080p gaming, high-ultra end of the spectrum.

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Well that second hand build is not worth the price, I would make a new build if I were you.

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Another question is, what would an acceptable price be for the second build? Because maybe we could get the seller to lower it.

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Here bro. I went overkill on the case, cuz why not? Already includes windows.

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€240.21 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€27.13 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€115.72 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€35.02 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€89.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€69.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€119.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€90.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 DE (OEM) (64-bit)  (€91.03 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Total: €1641.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Wait, what is his current build if he has one by the way?

What can you use from that?

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Here bro. I went overkill on the case, cuz why not? Already includes windows.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€240.21 @ Amazon Deutschland)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€27.13 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€115.72 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€35.02 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€89.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€69.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (€119.90 @ Caseking)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€90.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 DE (OEM) (64-bit) (€91.03 @ Home of Hardware DE)

Total: €1641.77

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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For 1080p 1 970 should be more then enough. Just keep the money for the second 970 in your pocket.

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We don't know what the alternative would be...

 

that said 1000€ isn't exactly cheap for that build, and the 8350 will be holding back the 290x. I'd recommend building something like this instead:

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.30 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $956.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-20 08:12 EDT-0400
 
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since someone pointed it out, I know the prices here are in $. I just wanted to make you a parts list. The price shouldn't be that far off where you live, and this build would be superior to the one your linked.

 

 

Thanks :)

FYI prices actually (can) differ quite a lot, because of the vastly different tax. A good example would be the Aorus X7 laptop, which you can get around 2000$-ish in teh US, but costs around 2300€-ish when buying it in Europe.

(I researched that in the beginning of the previous school-year though, so prices could have changed)

 

 

Here bro. I went overkill on the case, cuz why not? Already includes windows.

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€240.21 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€27.13 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€115.72 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€35.02 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€89.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€69.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (€380.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€119.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€90.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 DE (OEM) (64-bit)  (€91.03 @ Home of Hardware DE) 
Total: €1641.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-20 14:43 CEST+0200

 

Aww yiss. Using Amazon.de as well. Awesome!

 

Wait, what is his current build if he has one by the way?

What can you use from that?

 

Sadly nothing. He has a (gaming) laptop as far as I know, currently.

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