Leap Computing, Is cloud computing here?

[ErickS89]

 

I will like it when it is open source and I can get paid for letting people game on my rig from their own house via cloud computing.

I second this!

[AlexCo]

Just wanted to clarify this in the TOS...

 

16a is there so that we can kick people off for hosting web servers on our cloud desktops. If you have a render project that takes 7 days at 100%, go for it. We won't stop you. We just need a way to legally kick someone off for severe misuse. It would make no sense for us to actually act on this for our paying customers for a cloud gaming service, as any game you play will likely exceed this.

 

17 - Becasue no bandwidth cap is stated in the pre-order, there is no bandwidth cap. We wont shut you off. This is more for future products we have not announced yet for film and broadcast where they will be live editing and relaying 24/7.

 

Alexander Nataros

CEO - Leap Computing, Inc.

 

Just found this before i was about to order on the Terms of Service.

 

16a.) Resource Usage
If applicable to the Service set forth in your Order, neither you nor your users may:
1) Use 50% or more of system resources for longer then 90 seconds. There are numerous activities that could cause such problems; these include: CGI scripts, FTP, PHP, HTTP, etc.

 

 

17.) Bandwidth Usage
If applicable to the Service set forth in your Order, you are allocated a monthly bandwidth allowance. This allowance varies depending on the level of service you purchase. Should your account pass the allocated amount we reserve the right to suspend the account until the start of the next allocation, suspend the account until more bandwidth is purchased at an additional fee, suspend the account until you upgrade to a higher level of package, terminate the account and/or charge you an additional fee for the overages. Unused transfer in one month cannot be carried over to the next month.

 but nowhere does it say when ordering what you are allowed on what plan.....

[Trik'Stari]

  I second this!

Shit, I'd sign up for that.

[DeadSurvivor]

Just wanted to clarify this in the TOS...

 

16a is there so that we can kick people off for hosting web servers on our cloud desktops. If you have a render project that takes 7 days at 100%, go for it. We won't stop you. We just need a way to legally kick someone off for severe misuse. It would make no sense for us to actually act on this for our paying customers for a cloud gaming service, as any game you play will likely exceed this.

 

17 - Becasue no bandwidth cap is stated in the pre-order, there is no bandwidth cap. We wont shut you off. This is more for future products we have not announced yet for film and broadcast where they will be live editing and relaying 24/7.

 

Alexander Nataros

CEO - Leap Computing, Inc.

Do I need a good PC to run the service? Or can I use a NUC or Netbook for example and use this service and still get 60 FPS no problem?

[AlexCo]

Do I need a good PC to run the service? Or can I use a NUC or Netbook for example and use this service and still get 60 FPS no problem?

 

Basically if it plays netflix and Youtube in HD you're good to go. NUCs and netbooks are fine.

 

Alex

[Night_Rider0]

I linked the video that jay released in the original post! 

[Icecube26]

 

is it worth it or not? .... 

[terrytek]

It probably allows people with shitty systems to play good games on ultra, i hope. If it actually turns out that way, i would be super psyched.

[ShadowCaptain]

This is nothing new really, we have had other services such as Nvidia Grid and On Live

 

The concept is there, but the payment model (lack of local version too), and most peoples internet speeds are the prohibiting factor

[SpittingLlama]

Just singed up. For 30$ a month it is worth trying it out.
If it sucks I just stop the subscription.

Very interesting.

[Joe_Easy]

I like this idea a lot but in typical use cases where I would use this (as in I'm not at home) and travelling for work, I would have to rely on either Mobile Broadband (3g/4G) and that wouldn't have enough data allowance to make it usable from a laptop or else I would be using from some public or hotel wifi where I definately don't have enough bandwidth to play decent games.

 

If you're into gaming you will more than likely have a gaming rig at home and if not, I can't imagine very many All in one PC users or iMac users signing up to this, it's still a lot of money every month and that's just for access, you still have to pay for games on Steam, etc, etc. Would be interesting to see how this hold up on a big tv and a small media centre PC in the living room...that might be a use case.

 

If you  think about this as in the same category as an HBO subscription or cable TV or Netflix in terms of home entertainment, it might seem better value for money.

 

Certainly intrigued and going to keep an eye on it but not convinced yet.

[Stadiz]

Just singed up. For 30$ a month it is worth trying it out.

If it sucks I just stop the subscription.

Very interesting.

 

Would be sweet if you make a post about your experience of cloud gaming.

[Thorium19]

Considering the last major attempt at this just recently went bust (onlive) I highly doubt it will be successful. The amount of marketing onlive did was crazy and they still flopped. I can only see the likes of nvidia and EA succeeding in this area, at least if EA has a go at it, because they already have an infrastructure in place with both nvidia GPUs and EA Origin accounts

[deviant88]

The technology is great but i will stick to my opinion cloud gaming can ruin gaming. Imagine a near future where everything is cloud computing streaming,your windows is a service that you can only run what MS says you can run,games that are locked to cloud streaming only,with no mods,little options,overpriced with preinstalled DLC's..you name it.

Im not saying it will but it can ruin gaming because it opens a door to a lot of abuses and restrictions by these shitty corporations imo.

Im against anything cloud computing except for business stuff maybe not even that, if you think now we have little privacy imagine if most people would switch to such services,where companies like LeapComputing will have to log everything you do and deliver that data to governments,no fucking ty.

This would be great if humans wouldnt be so shitminded.I will stay with dedicated hardware/OS/games forever.

[TwistedDictator]

This isnt news and its a new post which was moved to the general section by an admin before.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/340515-leap-computing-is-cloud-computing-here/

[Opcode]

Still too pricey, you're better off just building a gaming machine and streaming games in-home. The cloud is ready for it but most peoples home connection to the cloud is not.

[Doobeedoo]

The technology is great but i will stick to my opinion cloud gaming can ruin gaming. Imagine a near future where everything is cloud computing streaming,your windows is a service that you can only run what MS says you can run,games that are locked to cloud streaming only,with no mods,little options,overpriced with preinstalled DLC's..you name it.

Im not saying it will but it can ruin gaming because it opens a door to a lot of abuses and restrictions by these shitty corporations imo.

Im against anything cloud computing except for business stuff maybe not even that, if you think now we have little privacy imagine if most people would switch to such services,where companies like LeapComputing will have to log everything you do and deliver that data to governments,no fucking ty.

This would be great if humans wouldnt be so shitminded.I will stay with dedicated hardware/OS/games forever.

Indeed. And I don't want everything and all my data to be on cloud. Reason why I don't rely my main things on cloud, simply doesn't feel good and safe.

I can see this type of gaming for like game room places with multiple computers and all.

I just don't want to have anything with the cloud. Only for some backup and easy managment, nothing so crucial or vital that would cost me in a way some people did.

[IMPERIUS]

I think it needs just a liiiitle bit more time, leap computing is making wonders but its not quite there yet.

If you aren't a hardcore games and don't mind a bit of lag then this is definitely the way to go.

But what about people that have shit internet? I have 3 something on speedtest.net which is really slow. I guess I would have huge lag and I'm also far away from the servers (I guess they are in the US? I'm in EU)

[aDouche]

I sure hope cloud computing never becomes a reality(alredy is?),i pray it dies and goes extinct.

In terms of gaming that would mean the end of PC games as we know them,end of mods and so on.For busineses and so on its usefull but it better stay away from gaming,that would be a disaster

 

I'm not quite sure how LeapComputing will kill modding though. LC is basically just a computer in the cloud that they stream to your local machine. What LC is doing better than the competition is very high frame rates (max 90 at 1080p) and low latency (well they still have to prove that, but Jayz's review looked promising). So, you get a fully functional Windows 10 desktop where you can install any games and any mods just like on your local machine. That's what I like about the idea of LC so much (assuming they can deliver of course). You can even use it as a high power desktop for editing if you'd like -I think they check for bitcoin mining and other stuff, that's not allowed. I will use it to game (of course!!!) and for any other tasks my underpowered laptop can't handle. 

 

Nvidia's game stream seems like a whole other thing. Nvidia streams games through a proprietary gaming service I think, it doesn't let you install anything yourself it just makes the games available to play though an app. I quite like the idea of this, but I agree that it will change gaming. However, it looks like Nvidia is aiming more at the console market with their service at the moment than pc. Their shield devices and controller do point in that direction more than the pc gaming market. It also makes sense as fps matters less there. But I could be wrong on this.

 

What are everyone's thoughts on cloud based computing? Do you like the idea of losing control of your data, paying a much higher internet bill or does convenience out weight the negatives for you?

 

For me I doubt I will ever go to cloud based computing so matter how great it becomes, maybe for very particular situations (can't think of any right now). I don't mind if it costs more or it is more work. Even the idea of something breaking does not bother me when comparing it to the negative of cloud based computing. I currently have 115GB of Google Drive space thanks to getting a M8. Never use it for anything, I think I have a couple files on there and they are only ones from other people that have shared files/folders with me.

 

Do you really give these services a fair shake comparing them to a cloud storage service? Or are you comparing google drive to something else than Leapcomputing and Gamestream? maybe I misunderstood.

 

 

I am all for this kind of solution, but I do feel weird about putting all my personal files on a cloud computer. Which is even stranger as I will be doing so via Dropbox, a cloud storage service of all things! It's mostly that I will have to use all my passwords and stuff through a client app. Just doesn't feel safe. Although their security is probably better than my laptop's... It's probably just in my head. Everything else I'm fine with, data speeds are really high where I live and on campus they're also great, I have no space for a proper rig, nor the energy and money upfront to build one. So, it's actually great for me. I think I might be their perfect target. Like a deer caught in headlights.

 

This could be very useful for Students as well. Every college has a outstanding Internet connection, so you could get this instead of spending money on a rig which could easily be damaged in dorms. Overall I think that this is a great idea and I hope that they deliver everything that they have promised.

 

Completely agree. Not to mention that your macbook air (or 2015 macbook) that every student sits in class with all of a sudden is a beast gaming rig.

[aDouche]

I sure hope cloud computing never becomes a reality(alredy is?),i pray it dies and goes extinct.

In terms of gaming that would mean the end of PC games as we know them,end of mods and so on.For busineses and so on its usefull but it better stay away from gaming,that would be a disaster

 

I'm not quite sure how LeapComputing will kill modding though. LC is basically just a computer in the cloud that they stream to your local machine. What LC is doing better than the competition is very high frame rates (max 90 at 1080p) and low latency (well they still have to prove that, but Jayz's review looked promising). So, you get a fully functional Windows 10 desktop where you can install any games and any mods just like on your local machine. That's what I like about the idea of LC so much (assuming they can deliver of course). You can even use it as a high power desktop for editing if you'd like -I think they check for bitcoin mining and other stuff, that's not allowed. I will use it to game (of course!!!) and for any other tasks my underpowered laptop can't handle. 

 

Nvidia's game stream seems like a whole other thing. Nvidia streams games through a proprietary gaming service I think, it doesn't let you install anything yourself it just makes the games available to play though an app. I quite like the idea of this, but I agree that it will change gaming. However, it looks like Nvidia is aiming more at the console market with their service at the moment than pc. Their shield devices and controller do point in that direction more than the pc gaming market. It also makes sense as fps matters less there. But I could be wrong on this.

 

What are everyone's thoughts on cloud based computing? Do you like the idea of losing control of your data, paying a much higher internet bill or does convenience out weight the negatives for you?

 

For me I doubt I will ever go to cloud based computing so matter how great it becomes, maybe for very particular situations (can't think of any right now). I don't mind if it costs more or it is more work. Even the idea of something breaking does not bother me when comparing it to the negative of cloud based computing. I currently have 115GB of Google Drive space thanks to getting a M8. Never use it for anything, I think I have a couple files on there and they are only ones from other people that have shared files/folders with me.

 

Do you really give these services a fair shake comparing them to a cloud storage service? Or are you comparing google drive to something else than Leapcomputing and Gamestream? maybe I misunderstood.

 

 

I am all for this kind of solution, but I do feel weird about putting all my personal files on a cloud computer. Which is even stranger as I will be doing so via Dropbox, a cloud storage service of all things! It's mostly that I will have to use all my passwords and stuff through a client app. Just doesn't feel safe. Although their security is probably better than my laptop's... It's probably just in my head. Everything else I'm fine with, data speeds are really high where I live and on campus they're also great, I have no space for a proper rig, nor the energy and money upfront to build one. So, it's actually great for me. I think I might be their perfect target. Like a deer caught in headlights.

 

 

This could be very useful for Students as well. Every college has a outstanding Internet connection, so you could get this instead of spending money on a rig which could easily be damaged in dorms. Overall I think that this is a great idea and I hope that they deliver everything that they have promised.

 

Completely agree. Not to mention that your macbook air (or 2015 macbook) that every student sits in class with all of a sudden is a beast gaming rig.