Morals

[MattLantis]

Well, I don't pirate if that's what you mean

[Guest]

Well, I don't pirate if that's what you mean

No, not that, lol.

[Guest]

They were right, but they were also being oversensitive. (sorry my nature and upbringing just makes me more relaxed, the people were enraged)

Its hard to say if someone is enraged by looking at few written sentences. People just wanted to point out that looking at someones emails is really hurting someones privacy. 

[Guest]

Its hard to say if someone is enraged by looking at few written sentences. People just wanted to point out that looking at someones emails is really hurting someones privacy. 

I guess, but I also made them more angry by insanely rude comments (or at least 1 I remember)

[Guest]

I guess, but I also made them more angry by insanely rude comments (or at least 1 I remember)

There is always someone that will cross the line. Its expected. Sometimes I do that

[Guest]

@Jade

@JoeyDM  (he ignored me I think)

 

 

How the hell did you not get this through your thick skulls, do I normally insult so hard like that for no good reason? That alone should be a red flag. You enraged peepz.

[Bsmith]

mine are simple, i won't judge as long i don't have a reason to do.

[Guest]

mine are simple, i won't judge as long i don't have a reason to do.

What would be a reason?

[Jade]

@Jade

@JoeyDM  (he ignored me I think)

 

 

How the hell did you not get this through your thick skulls, do I normally insult so hard like that for no good reason? That alone should be a red flag. You enraged peepz.

The only thick skulled person here, is you. Pretty simple; you invaded another person's privacy. Just because you're not doing anything with what you found doesn't mean it's okay. By that logic, if I hacked you (All theoretical, remember that.), as long as I do nothing with it, it's okay? It's not; hence why we password protect things, why we encrypt things, so on and so forth. Regardless of whether you were trolling or not, it doesn't mean it's okay. Yes, people jump on it quick. Why? Because they value privacy. Do you insult people like that? Fuck if I know. I don't know you, nor do I care to.

[Guest]

The only thick skulled person here, is you. Pretty simple; you invaded another person's privacy. Just because you're not doing anything with what you found doesn't mean it's okay. By that logic, if I hacked you (All theoretical, remember that.), as long as I do nothing with it, it's okay? It's not; hence why we password protect things, why we encrypt things, so on and so forth.

No, you didn't get it through your thick skull that it wasn't real and that it was obviously designed to enrage you now, you were right.

Read the OP. BUt you rage too hard also.

[Pomfinator]

Please, I get this in my humanities classes every semester, "social construction of reality"

[Jade]

No, you didn't get it through your thick skull that it wasn't real and that it was obviously designed to enrage you now, you were right.

Read the OP. BUt you rage too hard also.

See my edit post. And yes, welcome to the real world, where people -- humans that have emotions -- are sensitive to important things to them. I'm sure you'd be upset if you saw someone smashing your computer.

[Guest]

See my edit post. And yes, welcome to the real world, where people -- humans that have emotions -- are sensitive to important things to them. I'm sure you'd be upset if you saw someone smashing your computer.

Yes yes, but I still found it odd..... it shouldn't be THAT rage inducing.

[Jade]

Yes yes, but I still found it odd..... it shouldn't be THAT rage inducing.

Not to you. Not everyone is you or values things the sane way you do.

[Delusional Phil]

@coolkingler1  My Morals ? 

Do not fucking make fun of other people because they are different ...

[Guest]

@coolkingler1  My Morals ? 

Do not fucking make fun of other people because they are different ...

Das a good un

[Delusional Phil]

Das a good un

 

From elementary to High school I have been holding my self back when my " Friends " are making fun of other people ... ( Note that I now have 1 best friend and he is like me , so hard to fine best friends these days ... )

[Guest]

From elementary to High school I have been holding my self back when my " Friends " are making fun of other people ... ( Note that I now have 1 best friend and he is like me , so hard to fine best friends these days ... )

Yep, but I have a good group so the very occasional joke I let go. (and the joke isn't even about me)

[Delusional Phil]

Yep, but I have a good group so the very occasional joke I let go. (and the joke isn't even about me)

 

That's fine I guess ... Anyway it's your opinion , I have the option to laugh or not to laugh , to comment what I think and If I don't want to talk about something , I ain't talking about it ... 

[Guest]

That's fine I guess ... Anyway it's your opinion , I have the option to laugh or not to laugh , to comment what I think and If I don't want to talk about something , I ain't talking about it ... 

Well there is a black guy in our group and they make a joke about him rarely, and that's what I mean really. But always to his face and it's a very slightly offending joke. That's it really.

I don't laugh at them, just not funny to me, not because it's slightly offensive but because it's not funny. (something along the lines of 'cant see you in the dark')

 

However, they accept that everybody is different, they have accepted my love for tech, that I look a little different in general and don't treat me any different.

[Delusional Phil]

Well there is a black guy in our group and they make a joke about him rarely, and that's what I mean really. But always to his face and it's a very slightly offending joke. That's it really.

I don't laugh at them, just not funny to me, not because it's slightly offensive but because it's not funny. (something along the lines of 'cant see you in the dark')

 

Well If you are in a group of people that's a different kind of story ... I do that with my only friend and he plays back . That's what real friends are ...

 

I'm talking about people laughing , judging , pointing fingers at somebody I know or someone I don't know . It's never fun to make fun of people you don't know well ... 

[Guest]

Well If you are in a group of people that's a different kind of story ... I do that with my only friend and he plays back . That's what real friends are ...

 

I'm talking about people laughing , judging , pointing fingers at somebody I know or someone I don't know . It's never fun to make fun of people you don't know well ... 

Yep, never.

[Fred Castellum]

Morals?  How about forget morality and worry about what would work to make the world a better place.  Sometimes morals have to be thrown out the window.  For instance many people think that the death penalty is wrong/immoral but if we used it properly to get rid of the scum of the Earth and stopped babying people then we might have a safer society and out of that maybe a happier one.

What we think is better is quite oftenly based on morals however, everyone has some sorta moral subconscious at work unless your a psychopath which isn't necessarily(inherently) bad.

 

It's not something you can just throw out the window because morality plays a big role, and is based on the general consensus of the people.  

 

Morals-

Not real.

No such thing.

Nope.

Just created so people are good.

Same with religion.

 

 

I dont want to start a war here,

but morals, religion, and the like, are all created to keep people in line, and, in the case of religion, explain the unexplained.

Morals come in, in a more natural psychologically built manner than religion, its part of our social structure really. It's buillt by the consensus of people and very oftenly followed by those who are to lazy to think for themselves. It's quite a interesting topic, because it ties in with how humans operate in society and how our psychological makeup shapes our personalities. 

 

Learning is fun! Especially if its something you find interest in. 

[Volbet]

I used to be subscribed to a moral of the will idea (in the nietzschean sense). 

But seeing how it didn't add up with reality, I had to discard them that stand. I then defaulted back to a position of moral relativism.

 

Today my position is this: Morals are a social construct. Morals are something that you learn throughout your life (if you don't believe me, spend some time at a kindergarden)

However, this does not mean that I see all moral stands are equal. If a constructive debate can be had, one should be able to idetify a moral position as ´better´.

For example: Is it immoral to steal? I would argue that it is (for the most parts). The pleasure that the thief gets (the enrichment, the adrenalin kick etc.) isn't greater or equal to the suffering the person who got something stolen feels. 

This position probably puts me into a more utilitarian moral relativistic camp.

 

I also think, that an intersting discussion could be had, on whether or not following an objective moral standard (be it found in ontology or theology), is actually moral of the individual.

 

An intersting discussion also comes up, when you look at what evolutionary psychology has to say on morality. 

Some theorists, like Sam Harris, regard certain moral standards to be so ingrained in you species, that they can be regarded as objective.  

[Jogostar]

yeah..uhm..no. 

 

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