msi command center

[RyomaSJibenG]

surely lots of you folks will just
 

"duuuuude, just go to BIOS and OC manually"

 

i'm a new guy and don't even know how to overclock and all which is why i found out that its pretty convenient for MSI to give this app

i did my research and found this

 

 

notice the pencil(pen?) icon, so with that you can just type the amount of voltage and/or cpu multiplier if you hate analog

 

i believe we can just tune and save just like you do in the BIOS

combine with MSI Gaming App

 

 

which allow you to just interchange from OC mode to default(silent mode) which i hope integrates with the command center, i think this is pretty sweet

 

 

 

thoughts?

 

oh and if you guys know how to use this, can you teach me how?

[Tro]

I don't get why you wouldn't use the bios.

Easier and even more easy to un-do your mistakes or whatever.

[H4X3R]

I don't get why you wouldn't use the bios.

Easier and even more easy to un-do your mistakes or whatever.

This.

Software can really mess things up (i used the gigabyte overclocking utility and it gives me the weirdest readings and messed up my overclock).

[cesrai]

I don't get why you wouldn't use the bios.

Easier and even more easy to un-do your mistakes or whatever.

 

This.

Software can really mess things up (i used the gigabyte overclocking utility and it gives me the weirdest readings and messed up my overclock).

 

Use BIOS this just feels wrong and weird.

[RyomaSJibenG]

well its just a thought, i guess softwares just aren't there yet for OC and have to go for manual for more precise reading

 

*cough* manual car *cough*

 

jokes aside, is there a guide on OCing using MSI BIOS, cause in Linus video he uses MAXIMUS VI EXTREME which entirely different UI

 

my specs are:

intel core i5-4690k

msi z97 gaming 5

[TheMcSame]

I seem to be the odd one out here. I prefer using software to manually overclock, never had any problems and it just feels more convenient to me. I don't need to go looking through the BIOS for stuff (though it's not that much of a problem) and I can get to stressing it straight away. 

 

Then again that might be down to me using fast boot.

[RyomaSJibenG]

I seem to be the odd one out here. I prefer using software to overclock, never had any problems and it just feels more convenient to me. I don't need to go looking through the BIOS for stuff and I can get to stressing it straight away. 

 

Then again that might be down to me using fast boot.

yea that's why i'm asking on peoples' opinion on the software

[i_build_nanosuits]

thoughts?

 

oh and if you guys know how to use this, can you teach me how?

MSI are amazing, those are great tools if you fear to hit the delete key to enter your BIOS i guess.

And do you really need to be teached how to use these tools? a 5 years old could master this in about 5 minutes...all he need to know is that more voltages produce more heat and therefore require additional cooling

[RyomaSJibenG]

MSI are amazing, those are great tools if you fear to hit the delete key to enter your BIOS i guess.

And do you really need to be teached how to use these tools? a 5 years old could master this in about 5 minutes...all he need to know is that more voltages produce more heat and therefore require additional cooling

its called paranoid, cause you know, its expensive

[TheMcSame]

its called paranoid, cause you know, its expensive

There's not really anything to be paranoid about. Just don't stick a crap load of volts through it and it'll be fine.

[RyomaSJibenG]

ok since we're already talking about OCing

i'm planning to go 4.2GHz

 

cooler used:

2x MegaFlow 200mm intake

JetFlo 120 mount on Hyper 212x

JetFlo 120 rear exhaust

 

idle temperature: 36 C

 

is that achievable?

[i_build_nanosuits]

ok since we're already talking about OCing

i'm planning to go 4.2GHz

 

cooler used:

2x MegaFlow 200mm intake

JetFlo 120 mount on Hyper 212x

JetFlo 120 rear exhaust

 

idle temperature: 36 C

 

is that achievable?

yes sure most likely...you should start by setting manual voltage in the bios, and try at 1.2v and a multiplier of 42...if it boots run some stress test while monitoring your temps...if it pass that's great you can slowly start lowering the voltage...if it fails it means you have a unlucky CPU, which means you'll have to increase the voltage a little...the comfort zone with an hyper 212 will be around 1.25v MAX...anything bellow that is fine for that cooler...i guess you'll be able to get 4.2ghz stable at around 1.18v or so...once you've found your stable overclock set the voltage to adaptative again so that the volts and clockspeed drops when the CPU is on idle state.

 

Good luck!

[RyomaSJibenG]

yes sure most likely...you should start by setting manual voltage in the bios, and try at 1.2v and a multiplier of 42...if it boots run some stress test while monitoring your temps...if it pass that's great you can slowly start lowering the voltage...if it fails it means you have a unlucky CPU, which means you'll have to increase the voltage a little...the comfort zone with an hyper 212 will be around 1.25v MAX...anything bellow that is fine for that cooler...i guess you'll be able to get 4.2ghz stable at around 1.18v or so...once you've found your stable overclock set the voltage to adaptative again so that the volts and clockspeed drops when the CPU is on idle state.

 

Good luck!

thanks a lot, but before i start OCing

what's the best software to use for stress test?

[i_build_nanosuits]

thanks a lot, but before i start OCing

what's the best software to use for stress test?

intel extreme tuning utility is all you need to stress test, monitor temps and benchark to mesure the performance gains on your intel processor.

[RyomaSJibenG]

intel extreme tuning utility is all you need to stress test, monitor temps and benchark to mesure the performance gains on your intel processor.

alright i'm all set then

[LogicalDrm]

jokes aside, is there a guide on OCing using MSI BIOS, cause in Linus video he uses MAXIMUS VI EXTREME which entirely different UI

 

Not from Linus but i will almost guarantee that you will find some specific guide. But they aren't that different. Like I used 1155 Gigabyte OC guide for learning my 1150 UEFI. Which was really different compared to legacy BIOS I used before that. Then I went and OC'd on MSI board and found everything except LLC. That I had to google.

[RyomaSJibenG]

Not from Linus but i will almost guarantee that you will find some specific guide. But they aren't that different. Like I used 1155 Gigabyte OC guide for learning my 1150 UEFI. Which was really different compared to legacy BIOS I used before that. Then I went and OC'd on MSI board and found everything except LLC. That I had to google.

i'm sorry like i said i'm really new, but what's LLC?

[LogicalDrm]

i'm sorry like i said i'm really new, but what's LLC?

 

Load Line Calibration. I don't know details that much either. But it makes voltage drop (referred as vdroop) less or none. That depends on board how well it work. So if you set voltage to 1.25V and go do stress test. You could see voltage going from 1.22V to 1.29V without it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

i'm sorry like i said i'm really new, but what's LLC?

you don't need to worry about that since you don't shoot for a very big overclock anyways, and MSI has this set on auto for you so that it won't interfere with your overclock.

 

You wan't 4.2ghz, 8/10 4690K will do that with 1.2v or less...so i'd start there and work my way down.

Just make sure you are on manual voltage mode when you stress test and are looking for your overclock.

 

If you have problems or want to have a much better knowledge on overclocking haswell CPU i suggest this guide since @ProKoN was nice enough to use an MSI motherboard that has a very similar UEFI to yours

if you take your time and follow this guide you will get at least your 4.2ghz stable overclock the best and most efficient way possible, and even a lot more if you want/NEED more in the future:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/

[RyomaSJibenG]

okay thanks a lot guys, i'll do my best

 

appreciate the tips