FX-8350?

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

wo wo wo...what games have you played to came to those conclusions mate?

 

bf4,dragonage inquisition,dead rising 3, watchdogs,advanced warfare, black ops 2 , ryse son of rome, metal gear solid v, dying light,battlefield hardline,battlefield 3,bad company 2, bioshock infinite.

 

all have the same performance. in fact i dont even own a game where they arent close.

 

i should add however the 4770k is only at 4.2 ghz and my fx 8350 was at 4.7,clock for clock im sure there's a big difference but 4770k is also a hot cpu and some of the chips dont oc higher than 4.4 im working on a better cooler, also in some of the games i mentioned the 4770k still gets 5-10 fps more but overall with the gpus i have they are close.

 

i still recommend to not buy fx8350 and go with intel,because a 8350 has to be overclocked to the max to get this performance and yes mininum framerates are a factor and overall the i7 is smoother.

[Lotus]

Misread the post.

Edited February 9, 2015 by Lotus

[zappian]

-sniperino-

 

That first graph is not Gpu Bound at ALL.

 

/s

[helloimtom-]

 

Oh really.

 

Idk, man. I'd much rather get an 8-core than a Dual-Core

[Lotus]

That first graph is not Gpu Bound at ALL.

 

/s

Are you kidding me? Every CPU getting the same performance from an i7-4960x down to a lowly Phenom II x6? Those CPUs have VERY different peformance in both single threaded and multi-threaded categories. The only way they all perform the same is if the CPU wasn't a limiting factor. Unless there's some 3rd limiting factor at play here, that's leaves the GPU as the limiting factor, hence GPU bound.

 

I'm clearly an idiot.

 

[zappian]

-sniperdoodles-

 

Hmm sarcasm tag .

 

...

 

/S

[Lotus]

Hmm sarcasm tag .

 

...

 

/S

I am not aware of a sarcasm tag. Sorry. I'm an idiot.

 

The point I was trying to make is that he thought an i5-4460 would bottleneck in those games, and it clearly would not. That's why your post struck me so oddly. My mistake.

[D3MON]

Love my 8320

if intel quad cores are so great why not get a 4430 hmm????.......
"and i3 destroys it in gaming" thats why everyone needs a 4690k for 70% more?

intel users- spending money on cpu's instead of gpus since 2010...

but no dont get anything over an 8320E for gaming, waste of time and money, spend the money on the graphics card.

[i_build_nanosuits]

bf4,dragonage inquisition,dead rising 3, watchdogs,advanced warfare, black ops 2 , ryse son of rome, metal gear solid v, dying light,battlefield hardline,battlefield 3,bad company 2, bioshock infinite.

 

all have the same performance. in fact i dont even own a game where they arent close.

 

i should add however the 4770k is only at 4.2 ghz and my fx 8350 was at 4.7,clock for clock im sure there's a big difference but 4770k is also a hot cpu and some of the chips dont oc higher than 4.4 im working on a better cooler, also in some of the games i mentioned the 4770k still gets 5-10 fps more but overall with the gpus i have they are close.

 

i still recommend to not buy fx8350 and go with intel.

probably because R9 280X crossfire require a TON of overhead from the CPU to allow for enough drawcalls...that's probably why...but i bet your minimum FPS are better and you get more consistent frametime variance too...for me personaly the jump from a 4.6ghz FX chip to a 4.2ghz haswell i7 was VERY noticeable in games when paired with a GTX 780...most of the games you've mentionned are based on frostbyte engine or cryengine and those tends to run ''fairly'' well on an AMD FX chip for the most part...but if you re-do your testing with watchgods for example i'm sure you'll notice a much smoother gaming experience, for me it was day and night in that game...the AMD FX averaging around 70% GPU loads and core i7 averaging at 95%.

[brandishwar]

Personally I own and have built two systems with FX-8350s. That said, I'm prospecting a build right now for a friend of my wife's, and I'm going Intel on it -- namely the i5-4690K (he's currently on an i3-2000 series). The reason I'm going that route is price to performance, in that it's got a great amount of performance over the 8350, and in many places right now can be had for give or take 200 USD. And the mainboards I'm considering aren't that much different in price over AMD boards right now in that you can get a good Intel board plus the processor (the one I mentioned) for under $350.

[stconquest]

 

 

 

Idk, man. I'd much rather get an 8-core than a Dual-Core

 

 

 

lol, what makes you think the FX is an 8-core?

[brandishwar]

lol, what makes you think the FX is an 8-core?

The 8000 series FX processors are 8-core processors.

[zappian]

-double post- 

[zappian]

The 8000 series FX processors are 8-core processors.

 

 

lol, what makes you think the FX is an 8-core?

 

its only a eight core in integer tasks lol.

 

"Eight core"

 

It has shared 256 bit FPUS so yeah not a true eight core by any means.

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

the fx does have bad framedrops in some games and mininum fps is lower than intel and intel is smoother gameplay,which is why i cannot recommend the fx over a 4690k or any new intel.

 

and nano is right most of the games i mentioned are frostbite or cryenginw if i had more games to test im sure there will be a huge difference in some games

[i_build_nanosuits]

The 8000 series FX processors are 8-core processors.

They are not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_%28microarchitecture%29

do you see an 8 core CPU in that photo? only AMD and AMD fanboys can see a chip with 4 FPU and 4 decoders as an 8 core chip:

 

[stconquest]

I would rather have my Phenom II X6 for multitasking, over the FX8xxx....but really.  AM3+ is dead...old...outdated... Intel has been improving over the 5-7 years where AMD has not.

[i_build_nanosuits]

the fx does have bad framedrops in some games and mininum fps is lower than intel and intel is smoother gameplay,which is why i cannot recommend the fx over a 4690k or any new intel.

 

and nano is right most of the games i mentioned are frostbite or cryenginw if i had more games to test im sure there will be a huge difference in some games

yes, for many games the difference can be huge at times...for some other it's negligeable...depends on how picky you are i guess...but for me personaly when you have like 500$ invested in graphics cards you want to have the best possible experience out of them and cheaping out on the CPU and having it being the limiting factor in half the games out there is not an option.

[brandishwar]

They are not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_%28microarchitecture%29

do you see an 8 core CPU in that photo? only AMD and AMD fanboys can see a chip with 4 FPU and 4 decoders as an 8 core chip:

 

 

 

Except the 8350 is Piledriver, not Bulldozer. It has 4 modules, but 8 cores according to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_%28microarchitecture%29

[i_build_nanosuits]

Except the 8350 is Piledriver, not Bulldozer. It has 4 modules, but 8 cores according to this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_%28microarchitecture%29

they are the same architecturaly, they share the same core layout they only slightly improved performance on piledriver but it's still CMT based architecture, the link is valid for both processor.

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

yes, for many games the difference can be huge at times...for some other it's negligeable...depends on how picky you are i guess...but for me personaly when you have like 500$ invested in graphics cards you want to have the best possible experience out of them and cheaping out on the CPU and having it being the limiting factor in half the games out there is not an option.

 

nano you are one of the main reasons i switched to 4770k! i took your advice and im not sorry for it cause i do absolutely love the i7.

 

all im trying to say is the fx wasnt bad.it did me well until i moved on but in the games i mentioned the performance was close but im sure i was hitting a wall with the gpus i got so i needed to grow because i will get even better gpus in the future,and yes no one want to spend 500+ on gpus and not have thier gpu work as it should.

[stconquest]

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[i_build_nanosuits]

nano you are one of the main reasons i switched to 4770k! i took your advice and im not sorry for it cause i do absolutely love the i7.

 

all im trying to say is the fx wasnt bad.it did me well until i moved on but in the games i mentioned the performance was close but im sure i was hitting a wall with the gpus i got so i needed to grow because i will get even better gpus in the future,and yes no one want to spend 500+ on gpus and not have thier gpu work as it should.

 

You did the right thing the i7 haswell will be relevant to games for a lot of time and will feed dual high-end cards in the future if you need it to...outside of some very poorly codded MMO's i have yet to find a game in which the i7 CPU is my limiting factor to performance, even at 720p resolution the GPU gets fed all it can handle...this clearly shows that such a CPU still got plenty of room to grow.

[stconquest]

ffs, I still run my i5 3570K at stock.  Gone are the days of pushing my Phenom to keep up with the i7 920.

[helloimtom-]

lol, what makes you think the FX is an 8-core?

How is the 8350 not an 8-core?