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Ok, so people keep telling me  that there is money to be made hand selecting and building computers, and to some extent I can see how building a high end machine and selling it for 2k instead of 3k from alienware or cyberpower ect. can make some money.

 

However, 99.8% of people don't want/need high end stuff like this that a builder can make cash like that on. 

 

What do you think the typical PC buyer spends on a box pc? and what do they expect out of it/need it for?

 

also was thinking that pc upgrades would actually be a better market you can reuse case, psu, optidrive, HDD in most and possibly ram in some situations.

 

What do you guys think is there a way to compete with box stores as a level that the bulk of people buy at?

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Is it only me or is there a few sentences which is hard to understand:D?

 

No offense OP

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Is it only me or is there a few sentences which is hard to understand:D?

 

No offense OP

Sorry, I read too much 18th century literature as a kid...It really really messed up what i consider to be good flow.

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Yea there's real money all right. None of that money is profit, but it sure is real. 

Did think there would be money...lost on mail in rebates that is. Profit seemed unreasonable to me so hence this thread. (that damn 100 dollars for windows OS kills u every time)

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Did think there would be money...lost on mail in rebates that is. Profit seemed unreasonable to me so hence this thread. (that damn 100 dollars for windows OS kills u every time)

You can't really get into the custom pc game unless you have a lot of capitol to buy in bulk and get deep discounts, but then you better hope you can sell everything or you'll be upside down on that investment within 6-12 months. 

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You can't really get into the custom pc game unless you have a lot of capitol to buy in bulk and get deep discounts, but then you better hope you can sell everything or you'll be upside down on that investment within 6-12 months. 

That's not entirely true.

 

You can make money if you very carefully select parts and market it in certain ways. For example, saying it's a gaming rig, put an i5 (locked, low SKU) with a B85 motherboard and a video card with a decent amount of VRAM; a 280, say.

You can choose to either keep the games it comes with and sell them separately, or include them as a value add. "Three free games! $180 value!"

Keeping in mind that this is a system built by you, the person buying likely won't be that tech savvy and you can charge 15%+ more than it costs to build, plus a fee for the parts.

It's all about picking very budget oriented parts where they won't be readily noticed. PSU, case, motherboard, RAM, etc.

 

You won't make $1000 on a $2000 build. Plain and simple. You lack any kind of brand power, and warranty that said brand power implies.

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The money is in the support, not the hardware.

 

Most people don't understand the difference between the $300 fire hazard pc from walmart and a custom PC with components that won't burn your house down.  They only see "$300 is cheap lets get that one"

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Sorry, I read too much 18th century literature as a kid...It really really messed up what i consider to be good flow.

what lol? have those grammar like that?

 

(english is my third language maybe thats why I don't Understand)

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Ok, so people keep telling me  that there is money to be made hand selecting and building computers, and to some extent I can see how building a high end machine and selling it for 2k instead of 3k from alienware or cyberpower ect. can make some money.

 

However, 99.8% of people don't want/need high end stuff like this that a builder can make cash like that on. 

 

What do you think the typical PC buyer spends on a box pc? and what do they expect out of it/need it for?

 

also was thinking that pc upgrades would actually be a better market you can reuse case, psu, optidrive, HDD in most and possibly ram in some situations.

 

What do you guys think is there a way to compete with box stores as a level that the bulk of people buy at?

 

I don't think you can compete without being able to build a lot of volume at a reasonable price point, and then convince people to buy from you instead of the big box places. People go there because they don't understand the difference or don't care. Either way you probably couldn't reach them. After that you're left with people that know what they're getting and likely know how to do it for themselves. So they would only be attracted to pricing. I just don't see there being any money in upgrades as a business model alone, and I would have to think the places that offer that don't make much on it

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I don't think you can compete without being able to build a lot of volume at a reasonable price point, and then convince people to buy from you instead of the big box places. People go there because they don't understand the difference or don't care. Either way you probably couldn't reach them. After that you're left with people that know what they're getting and likely know how to do it for themselves. So they would only be attracted to pricing. I just don't see there being any money in upgrades as a business model alone, and I would have to think the places that offer that don't make much on it

people who have that kind of money buy from alien ware not because they think it is better, it is because they can trust the name alien ware rather no offence a random guy who has not as much experience in designing and building high end pc. if you want to make money target the 200-800 market because they are beginners like me and need help making our pc because my friends often try building there pc and make mistakes however if you were to start selling pcs at a decent price for gaming in that price range you would get business. i hope i did not offend you and helped you 

 

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I think the point i was getting at is that the big box retailers like walmart and bestbuy sell a certain price range of computers for a reason. To compete with them, you would have to have some serious volume purchasing to keep your prices low, and then your not really directly competing with the stores but the brands they carry and whatever warranties, support and 'value adds' those brands offer like bundled software.  There is a market i think in low end computers and high end stuff that could be gone after but that middle of the road E-machine or whatever is not a part of the market i would attempt to go after even if i had the money to try.

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I make some cash by operating as a consultancy/builder...

 

I ask for their budget and purpose and put together a spec sheet... and sometimes accompany them when buying...

 

I only build or buy for them if they request it (which would incur the transportation charges, and a small service charge)...

 

My latest project is for a government office as part of my requirements for a subject in university (if all goes well, there should be some form of payout)...

 

The cash is not that big here, but it's enough to keep me fed for several days...

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