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compatibility

Not entirely right. While they will work on Z87 boards, they will work ONLY if the bios is updated to a new enough version. It's a safe assumption that haswell-refresh will not work with Z87 out of the box.

 

 

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Haswell Refresh is a re-launch of the Haswell CPU's due to an issue discovered when actually using it. The TIM, Thermal Interface Material, was changed in such a way that heat transfer from the CPU die to the Integrated heat spreader was inhibited by a large amount. This caused very high temperatures on high loads even with great CPU coolers such as the Noctua NH-D15, Corsair H100i or even custom loops. Haswell-Refresh set this straight.

 

This opportunity was also used to refine the CPU making process, slightly increasing consistency and increasing overall quality, meaning higher overclocks on average and higher stock speeds (As seen that between the 4770k and 4790k there is a 0.5GHz difference). I do believe this opportunity was also used to add a few extras but don't quote me on that.

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Yes - same socket and compatibility, but some efficiency and heat output improvements I believe.

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is it just an update on the haswell CPUs?

Better overclocking on them

Improved TIM between the CPU die and the HIS

Clocked higher stock.

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compatibility

Not entirely right. While they will work on Z87 boards, they will work ONLY if the bios is updated to a new enough version. It's a safe assumption that haswell-refresh will not work with Z87 out of the box.

 

 

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Haswell Refresh is a re-launch of the Haswell CPU's due to an issue discovered when actually using it. The TIM, Thermal Interface Material, was changed in such a way that heat transfer from the CPU die to the Integrated heat spreader was inhibited by a large amount. This caused very high temperatures on high loads even with great CPU coolers such as the Noctua NH-D15, Corsair H100i or even custom loops. Haswell-Refresh set this straight.

 

This opportunity was also used to refine the CPU making process, slightly increasing consistency and increasing overall quality, meaning higher overclocks on average and higher stock speeds (As seen that between the 4770k and 4790k there is a 0.5GHz difference). I do believe this opportunity was also used to add a few extras but don't quote me on that.

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Yes - same socket and compatibility, but some efficiency and heat output improvements I believe.

It's also called Haswell-E

Haswell-E is in reference to X99, not the Haswell "refresh" CPU's.

 

Devil's Canyon is in reference to refresh. i.e. 4690k/4790k as well as down the locked i-line.

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It's also called Haswell-E

 

"Haswell-E" refers to the even newer X99-based processors: i7-5820K and up.

 

Haswell refresh is an informal name for Devil's Canyon, the i7-4790K and i5-4690K and new Z97/H97 chipsets.

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You need a bios update to use the haswell refresh cpus right?

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You need a bios update to use the haswell refresh cpus right?

 

8-series boards (Z87, H87, H81, etc.) need a BIOS update to work with Haswell refresh CPUs, yes. H97/Z97 chipsets don't need a BIOS update.

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"Haswell-E" refers to the even newer X99-based processors: i7-5820K and up.

 

Haswell refresh is an informal name for Devil's Canyon, the i7-4790K and i5-4690K and new Z97/H97 chipsets.

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8-series boards (Z87, H87, H81, etc.) need a BIOS update to work with Haswell refresh CPUs, yes. H97/Z97 chipsets don't need a BIOS update.

people told me that the MSI z97 gd-65 won't work with i3-4150
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I'm thinking of using the MSI Gaming 5 along with an i5 4690k, I've read in multiple different places that this board, even though it's z97 needs a bios update to work with Haswell refresh.

 

I've found many builds that use these parts with no apparent problem though.

 

Does anyone know if this poses a problem still? Or have the newer boards been updated, so the ones in box work with these newer cpus

 

Thanks

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On 12/10/2014 at 11:27 AM, Archangel1994 said:

Haswell Refresh is a re-launch of the Haswell CPU's due to an issue discovered when actually using it. The TIM, Thermal Interface Material, was changed in such a way that heat transfer from the CPU die to the Integrated heat spreader was inhibited by a large amount. This caused very high temperatures on high loads even with great CPU coolers such as the Noctua NH-D15, Corsair H100i or even custom loops. Haswell-Refresh set this straight.

Joined LTT after dying with laughter because of this. Should have 3200MT/s (double) memory bandwidth, better TIM, and might have even fixed faulty uarch. I have several 4570s that crash, haven't received complaints from Xeon E3 1271 v3 upgrades with identical motherboard. (maybe Haswell just runs better with ucode updates, broadwell reboot issue? idk)

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