Pope Finally Accepts Evolution and the Big Bang as Realities!

[dalekphalm]

This pope is cool. But big bang and evolution are just theories too.

Yeah... See... the thing is... Theory (in this context) does not mean what you think it means. Scientific theory means a working idea based on empirical evidence.

 

The definition, from the link by @ObscureMammal

 

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.

 

I've bolded the important bits. What you consider a "Theory" (The layman's definition), is what a scientist considers a "Hypothesis". An untested idea based on reasoning or logic, with perhaps anecdotal evidence.

 

As noted, Gravity is just a "Theory".... Buuuuuut we know it exists. It's real. We can experience it, test it, verify it, and know it's a fact of life.

 

 

 

 

 

He doesn't accept evolution or the big bang, what he is talking about is intelligent design which is not science.

 

 

It is not a theory, it's a scientific theory just like the theory of gravity and the germ theory, among many other examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

 

[kingkickolas]

I can't help but chime in and echo the things @dalekphalm, @ObscureMammal, and @Trik'Stari are saying.

 

I'm happy to see the Catholic church apparently showing some humility in the ground they've had to give so far, but I think this is a slippery slope for them.

And it's a disingenuous resignation to the facts, at that. I don't think even the pope honestly believes he's making a concession here; he is still essentially arguing for intelligent design.

 

 

 

And that's why pope Francis is the best thing the Catholic Church has had in years. It's important that this has happened, it shows the development of the church and how it is coming into the understanding and acceptance of the modern world.

 

As it stands, religion is not compatible with modern science in the slightest. Attempts to reconcile their views will inevitably blow up in the church's face.

 

I think that a lot of different Christian churches have at least in part accepted evolution, it's just that you hear from the vocal idiot minority like WBC and the fundamentalists way more than the moderates.

As a Christian myself, it's a good thing to hear. I really like this pope. I really do think that science and religion can go together, it's just that some people take the bible literally and that's when sanity goes out the window.

For those who still think religion can nuzzle up amicably with science and the modern world, I think a good starting place is to realize that an "a la carte" belief system is really the first step down the slope. As Christopher Hitchens has put it, if you don't take your gospel literally, by what authority do you reject elements of your text?

[totjup5]

why is this off topic?

Because even though it is news, it is not tech news.

[RexinOridle]

Its not about religious disbelief. Evolution just doesn't have to mean that we turned human from apes. Just take it as we are evolving, like many children being born these days will never grow wisdom teeth. Big bang could be done by God.

[dalekphalm]

Its not about religious disbelief. Evolution just doesn't have to mean that we turned human from apes. Just take it as we are evolving, like many children being born these days will never grow wisdom teeth. Big bang could be done by God.

No modern scientist believes that humans came from apes... Just sayin'

 

I know that a lot of people uneducated in the topic might believe this is what "evolutionists" espouse, but it's not. Humans and apes had a common ancestor millions of years ago that we both evolved from. That's why Chimpanzees share 99% of the Coding Sequence in their DNA with Humans.

[Dicehunter]

 

Its not about religious disbelief. Evolution just doesn't have to mean that we turned human from apes. Just take it as we are evolving, like many children being born these days will never grow wisdom teeth. Big bang could be done by God.

 

 

Nah the bearded invisible flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist, Now the flying dragon made of mushroom cheese on the other hand is a whole other story !!!

 

I really can't wait for the day when people from another civilisation come down, Look at us and say "You're all a bunch of dumb f***s, You're all banned from the rest of the universe"

[Mindtrickz]

Wow! For hundreds of years, many aspects of modern science have been outright denied by the Catholic Church. Now,  two of the hottest debates ever in human history have been put to rest. I thought that this was worthy to be placed in the tech news category as many other "sciencey" things end up here. Now for the news!!!!!!!!!!

 

This is his exact speech:  (It has English subtitles if you were wondering)

 

 

[snip] The Catholic Church has supported evolution since the 1960s. In fact evolution is taught in Catholic schools across the world. Every single Pope since then has supported the theory of evolution and big bang.

 

You're confusing catholics with evangelicals from America. Fundamentalist.

 

—Edited by Mod Glenwing

[Dicehunter]

[snip] The Catholic Church has supported evolution since the 1960s. In fact evolution is taught in Catholic schools across the world. Every single Pope since then has supported the theory of evolution and big bang.

 

You're confusing catholics with evangelicals from America. Fundamentalist.

 

—Edited by Mod Glenwing

 

Instead of insulting the guy you could of just pointed that out in a mature and grown up way, Manners cost nothing

[Mindtrickz]

Its not about religious disbelief. Evolution just doesn't have to mean that we turned human from apes. Just take it as we are evolving, like many children being born these days will never grow wisdom teeth. Big bang could be done by God.

 

No one believes that humans evolved from apes. What science believes is that humans and other primates had a common ancestor.

 

 

Instead of insulting the guy you could of just pointed that out in a mature and grown up way, Manners cost nothing

 

I believe in tough love.

 

[LadyGamerEightyFive]

I believe in tough love.

 

 

 

 

So in other words you're just a c***

[Deletive]

I'm christian and I believe evolution to a point and the big bang I just sorta somewhat agree with... it sorta lines up with eachother.

 

I still believe it still started with creationism and evolution took over.

[Polyvalent]

Something or someone made this place at some point, I dont care if it was some big bearded person in the sky or if it was some chemical reaction.

 

All I know is that I don't know and I will never know and I'm okay with this.

[Dicehunter]

Something or someone made this place at some point, I dont care if it was some big bearded person in the sky or if it was some chemical reaction.

 

All I know is that I don't know and I will never know and I'm okay with this.

 

But, But, But, You have to have a religion, You have to, Otherwise all the bible thumpers are gonna cry and send you to hell !!!

[connorpiper]

This pope is cool. But big bang and evolution are just theories too.

 

A theory is something that is tested and confirmed using experimentation multiple times. Without failure.

Gravity is a theory. 

[Polyvalent]

But, But, But, You have to have a religion, You have to, Otherwise all the bible thumpers are gonna cry and send you to hell !!!

 

I feel like if there is a higher being and he/she is as forgiving and loving as religion portrays, they would definitely be understanding that their creation simply accepts that it has no idea how it was created.

[RexinOridle]

No modern scientist believes that humans came from apes... Just sayin'

 

I know that a lot of people uneducated in the topic might believe this is what "evolutionists" espouse, but it's not. Humans and apes had a common ancestor millions of years ago that we both evolved from. That's why Chimpanzees share 99% of the Coding Sequence in their DNA with Humans.

 

 

Aaaand 50% with banana

[RexinOridle]

A theory is something that is tested and confirmed using experimentation multiple times. Without failure.

Gravity is a theory. 

 

Isn't gravity a fact?

[Dicehunter]

I feel like if there is a higher being and he/she is as forgiving and loving as religion portrays, they would definitely be understanding that their creation simply accepts that it has no idea how it was created.

 

If there is somethingh afterwards then that's awesome, If not then just live a cool life and at the end you can have the piece of mind that there is literally nothing, Zero, Zip, When you die, You're dead, Not even blackness because you won't know because you will not exist anymore, And that's something I'm also fine with.

 

 

A theory is something that is tested and confirmed using experimentation multiple times. Without failure.

Gravity is a theory. 

 

 

Gravity is a fact, Without it you would be floating right now

[RexinOridle]

No one believes that humans evolved from apes. What science believes is that humans and other primates had a common ancestor.

 

 

 

I believe in tough love.

 

 

This reminds me:

 

What is love?

Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me

No more.

[Syntaxvgm]

A theory is something that is tested and confirmed using experimentation multiple times. Without failure.

it always suprises me that people don't know what a scientific theory even is.

People!

A theory is something that has been tested and so far has not been proven wrong but has not been proven right in way that is impossible to contest, and is not 100% testable and verifiable as a fact with no room for doubt.

A theory is well supported by evidence thus far, and thus far has been proven right

A theory make predictions that can be tested or proven false or ture in some way

Few things that are accepted as the way it is are facts actually.

A theory is often confused with hypothesis or speculation. Not the same.

[connorpiper]

Isn't gravity a fact?

 

A law technically. But there is nothing higher than a theory.

[Syntaxvgm]

Isn't gravity a fact?

As far as I know, it is not. With our current technology, it can't be proven as it is. There's a religious belief that it's universal with no definitive proof. I most likely is, but facts have to be 100% proven.

[connorpiper]

If there is somethingh afterwards then that's awesome, If not then just live a cool life and at the end you can have the piece of mind that there is literally nothing, Zero, Zip, When you die, You're dead, Not even blackness because you won't know because you will not exist anymore, And that's something I'm also fine with.

 

 

 

 

Gravity is a fact, Without it you would be floating right now

 

No. Fact is non-existent in science. Mostly because if what it has to be.  

100% proof is not possible on gravity. 

[Syntaxvgm]

No. Fact is non-existent in science. Mostly because if what it has to be.  

100% proof is not possible on gravity.

Yah. Pretty much.

[Dicehunter]

No. Fact is non-existent in science. Mostly because if what it has to be.  

100% proof is not possible on gravity. 

 

So gravity does not exist as it was made by space hippys to annoy the religious anoraks and we are all actually riding on the back of a giant turtle called Jeff ? Gotcha !