290 vs 780

[MeltingPoint]

Yeah its this thread again. The search function is useless, btw. admins better fix this

 

 

Okay, so when it comes to raw performance, which one should I get, an R9 290 or a GTX 780?

Particularly, its 290 Tri-x OC vs 780 Windforce OC.

 

No fanboy biased answers please

[79wjd]

Yeah its this thread again. The search function is useless, btw. admins better fix this

 

 

Okay, so when it comes to raw performance, which one should I get, an R9 290 or a GTX 780?

Particularly, its 290 Tri-x OC vs 780 Windforce OC.

 

No fanboy biased answers please

The 290 and 780 switch off depending on the game, especially once overclocked. So, I'd say go with the 290 as its $100 cheaper. 

[Sky Daddy]

They trade blows in a lot of games, but 290 is much better price/performance. Can't go wrong with either one.

[Enderman]

use google and site:linustechtips.com to search, not the forum search function

[MeltingPoint]

Both are OCed. So its it the 290?

[eLucid]

Google is your friend, learn how to use it. Save yourself $100 and get the tri-x or vapor-x by sapphire (they make the best amd cards btw). At higher resolutions, the extra vram on the 290 will be much better for future titles.

 

Personally, I'd wait for the 900 series.

[Clyne]

R9 290 would be better for playing games at a higher resoultions than 1920 by 1080, although the R9 290 has a better price to performance ratio. The 780 and the 290 are different in every game, the 290 would be better in some games, the 780 would be better in some games. I would say the 290, but don't get a reference card because they will run hotter than non reference cards, get one that is non reference.

[MeltingPoint]

Ok so its the tri-x 290. Also would the CM V550 still be sufficient for this card when paired with a non OCed i5 4670K ?

use google and site:linustechtips.com to search, not the forum search function

Thanks for the tip. I'll be using this from now on

[Enderman]

Ok so its the tri-x 290. Also would the CM V550 still be sufficient for this card when paired with a non OCed i5 4670K ?

Thanks for the tip. I'll be using this from now on

Yup, thats what we all use

[MeltingPoint]

Yup, thats what we all use

Would be nice if a custom google search could be integrated in the forums for easier searching.

 

and btw, would the CM V550 still be sufficient for this card when paired with a non i5 4670 ?

[Swndlr]

depends on what games you play and if youre going to actually take advantage of the technologies offered from either side. once you figure this information out, then you have got your answer

[Faceman]

I personally own a GTX 780 3GB, and I kind of wish I had an R9 290.

 

For starters, it is currently as much as $100-$150 less expensive.  Back when I was buying my GPU, the Mining Craze was still in full effect and the R9 290 was like $600.  You get 3 free games with the R9 290, one of which being Star Citizen which is something I would actually really like to play.  The other game choices aren't too shabby either.

 

At 1080p I am very pleased with my 780, but if I ever want to go higher resolution, which is something I would like to do, I am really wishing I had either a 6GB version or an R9 290.

 

The only real knock on the 290 that I can see is the temperatures.  Temps aren't really an issue on the non-reference cards.  Cards like the Sapphire and Gigabytes are actually very cool and silent.  You could even water cool via G10 + AIO your 290 and it will cost the same as the 780.

[peaking duck]

buy the 780.

if you dont like it, swap me for my 290.

[maizenblue]

Someone mentioned temperatures as being a weakness for the 290, but that notion is outdated and based on the reference cooler. Modern non reference cooler 290s like the sapphire tri X, Vapor X, and PCS+ actually run a lot cooler than many(if not most) 780s.

 

As for performance as others said, at 1080p it depends on the games you like. The 290 runs better for BF4, which I consider to be the best reason for getting a high end card at the moment. The 780 does a little better in Bioshock infinite, which is a beautiful game but doesn't really have a lot of replay value, and both cards will easily handle it at 1080p ultra. The edge comes in future games, which the 290 will probably have an edge in.

 

The big difference comes in price, you can get a quality 290 for 100 to 150 cheaper than the 780 in the US. That may change in coming weeks with the gtx 900 coming out, although Id be surprised if Nvidia will still be able to beat the 290 in price/performance given you can get a PCS+ for 350.

[Guest]

im in the process of doing a EVGA 780 classfied vs r9 290 vapor-x comparison video on my channel.

I dont want to put out all the benchmarks because im obviously going to be using them in my comparison video but on average the GTX 780 beats the 290 vapor-x by about 3 to 5fps in DX11 testing.

Its probably not worth the extra $$$ for the 780 because you probably wont see any difference, and the 4gb on a 512 bit bus on the 290 will be better for higher resolutions than the 3gb on a 384 bit bus on the 780.

[MeltingPoint]

Going with the 290 as its way cheaper. 

[Kryptyx]

As others have said, at this point its better to go with R9 290 over the 780. Nvidia is rumored to announce the 980 soon though, just food for thought.

[I/O]

An R9 290 kicks the 780s butt http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

[79wjd]

An R9 290 kicks the 780s butt http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

*cough* 

Stop being such a fanboy. At 1080p they perform very similarly.

 

[I/O]

*cough* 

Stop being such a fanboy. At 1080p they perform very similarly.

 

You mean LTT golden sample silcon lottery winner 780 is almost as fast ? Once again apples to apples r9 290 is stronger. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

[79wjd]

You mean LTT golden sample silcon lottery winner is almost as fast ?

faster* 

 

The 780 and 290 trade places depending on the game. If you'd stop being such a fanboy for three whole seconds you would see that. 

[I/O]

faster* 

 

The 780 and 290 trade places depending on the game. If you'd stop being such a fanboy for three whole seconds you would see that. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

 

In most games the 290 wins by a large margin and has much more consistent performance. In few games where the 780 is faster the margin is very very low like 3fps. Once again you are skewing the number to favor nvidia when the reality is in the real world the 290 is more powerful.

[Kryptyx]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

 

In most games the 290 wins by a large margin and has much more consistent performance. In few games where the 780 is faster the margin is very very low like 3fps. Once again you are skewing the number to favor nvidia when the reality is in the real world the 290 is more powerful.

 

But even on AnadTech you'll see the 780 pull ahead by a decent margin on quite a few games. I wouldn't really say the 290 "kicks it butt" when it trails behind in many of the benchmarks you've listed.

 

EDIT: To be more clear, they trade blows pretty well. You should also factor in that Nvidia typically overclocks better than AMD on average. So when you have two cards this close Nvidia will edge out with a better OC.

[I/O]

But even on AnadTech you'll see the 780 pull ahead by a decent margin on quite a few games. I wouldn't really say the 290 "kicks it butt" when it trails behind in many of the benchmarks you've listed.

 

EDIT: To be more clear, they trade blows pretty well. You should also factor in that Nvidia typically overclocks better than AMD on average. So when you have two cards this close Nvidia will edge out with a better OC.

10fps on ave is a large gap to close.

 

1920x1080 cause that most common rez and it even favors nvidia 780

 

MLL R9 wins big 10fps

COH2 R9 wins big 10fps

Bioshock infinite is within margin of a tie nvidia wins by a whooping less than 2fps

BF3 big win for nvidia by 11fps

Crysis 3 tie

Crysis Warhead big win for AMD by 10fps

Total Roam win for AMD by a little bit

Hitman absolution win for nvidia by a little.

Grid2 clear win for AMD

 

nvidia only is faster by a large margin in one out of nine game tested and 3 out of nine total. AMD R9 290 is faster overall by allot.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-review-our-first-custom-cooled-290/3

[Guest]

stoppppp seriously...

have you tested these yourself? have you owned multiple 290's and 780's? do you test these every other week?

I do, so I would know, do you?

In every test I have done, even using the FASTEST R9 290 there is, the Vapor-X (some say the PCS+ may be faster but its pretty close) it still cannot clearly beat a 780, in DX11 it gets close but the 780 usually wins by 4-5fps on average.

In openGL on the other hand, it is massive, like 15fps+ better for the 780, I am no fan boy, I just like what is fast, I have tested more AMD cards than Nvidia in-fact, but the reality is, from somebody who tests them, is that on average, the 780 is 'slightly' faster than the 290.

In DX11 that is, does that mean you should pay the extra $$$ for it? maybe not because you have to consider price to performance, its probably not worth the extra $$$ for barely any gain, unless your using openGL applications.

Everybody just reads ONE article and think they know everything, you need to read around multiple articles, look at the actual card they are using not just GTX 780, is it a reference? is it a windforce which has like 150mhz more gpu speed? those things come into it.

Just read around and if you dont know, ask somebody who does test them, like tech reviewers on their channels and they will tell you straight away cause they have used them, easy, its like the people that say 290x's keep up with 780ti's they just dont, 780ti's destroy 290x's, the fact is the 290x was made to beat the 780, and it does, while the 290 doesnt, but the 780ti DESTROYS the 290x and thats just how it is.