Watercooling build help CPU and GPU

[Raka]

Hi,

It's ten days until my birthday and I'm building a new pc. I'm going to buy the 4790k with a ASUS Maximus Formula VII and I'm going to buy the gtx 880 when it releases probably with a pre-applied waterblock like the EVGA or the ASUS Poseidon. This will be my first custom watercooling build and after reading the 101 watercooling on this forums I still have a few questions.

Do I have to go 420mm and 240mm rad to cool both cpu and gpu while only overclocking the cpu or is one 420mm rad enough?

Can I build a watercooling loop that is quiet and has 420mm rad + 240mm rad for €350?

My case will be the phanteks enthoo luxe.

[Maxwit44]

@Raka, I very highly doubt you'll get what you want for under 350 euros.

 

I would highly recommend both rads be in this case. especially if your overclocking.

 

So lets do a count of bits, using Aquatuning website.

 

Average prices for:

 

GPU : 90 Euros

CPU: 70-80 euros

Pump: 60 euros

Res: Plain - 20-30 euros, big and fancy - 70-80 euros

Rads: 420mm ~ 100 euros, and the 240mm ~70 euros

Fittings: ~ 5 euros each

Tubing: 10 euros for 3m.

 

All up: Cheapest: about 420 euros'ish.

[Raka]

@Raka, I very highly doubt you'll get what you want for under 350 euros.

I would highly recommend both rads be in this case. especially if your overclocking.

So lets do a count of bits, using Aquatuning website.

Average prices for:

GPU : 90 Euros

CPU: 70-80 euros

Pump: 60 euros

Res: Plain - 20-30 euros, big and fancy - 70-80 euros

Rads: 420mm ~ 100 euros, and the 240mm ~70 euros

Fittings: ~ 5 euros each

Tubing: 10 euros for 3m.

All up: Cheapest: about 420 euros'ish.

Hi,

Thanks for the help. Though if I bought a gtx 880 version like http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=03G-P4-2889-KR

Then the 90 euros for the gpu doesn't count here right?

[Prokart2000]

Hi,

Thanks for the help. Though if I bought a gtx 880 version like http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=03G-P4-2889-KR

Then the 90 euros for the gpu doesn't count here right?

no thats hydrocopper which is wc ready

[Raka]

no thats hydrocopper which is wc ready

Ah okay I'll guess I can hop my budget a 100 bucks and make it €450.

[Maxwit44]

Hi,

Thanks for the help. Though if I bought a gtx 880 version like http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=03G-P4-2889-KR

Then the 90 euros for the gpu doesn't count here right?

 

You are right. So you could take 90 euros off it. I must have mis read the original post, my apologies.

 

Personally, when I did my first build, I put everything into a wishlist on the place I was buying it from. I got bits that I wanted and liked. I then saved to that target price plus shipping costs.

 

Unless you buy a kit like alphacools or EK kits, and then add the extras that you need................... wait hang on a minute................

 

look here ~280 euros plus two extra fittings and your done (sorry its in german, it does display euros but)

 

~290 euros plus shipping.

 

Also have a look here for good advice if you haven't already seen it

 

I'm so sorry, should have looked at that before.

[Raka]

You are right. So you could take 90 euros off it. I must have mis read the original post, my apologies.

Personally, when I did my first build, I put everything into a wishlist on the place I was buying it from. I got bits that I wanted and liked. I then saved to that target price plus shipping costs.

Unless you buy a kit like alphacools or EK kits, and then add the extras that you need................... wait hang on a minute................

look here ~280 euros plus two extra fittings and your done (sorry its in german, it does display euros but)

~290 euros plus shipping.

Also have a look here for good advice if you haven't already seen it

I'm so sorry, should have looked at that before.

I just watched those videos and yes they are really helpful.

That alphacool won't fit because the phanteks enthoo luxe only will fit a rad up to 420mm. But I got the idea to buy a 380mm set and just add a 240mm radiator. Will this work?

I've found two sets and I don't know which one is better as the have the same pump I think. Which one is better?

XSPC Set RayStorm D5 EX360: http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Wasserkuehlung/Interne-Wasserkuehlungen/XSPC-Wasserkuehlung-Set-RayStorm-D5-EX360::21108.html?shopgate_redirect=1

Or

Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 360 D5/UT which is basically the one you linked me but with a 360 rad instead of a 480.

EDIT:

I just found out that I would never be able to use a dual 5.25 Bay Reservoir, because I have a RoG Front Base dual Bay and the phanteks only has 3 5.25 bays. So I have made my own build what do you think about it?

Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 240mm

Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 360mm

7x Swiftech Helix 120mm PWM

8x these fittings http://www.aquatuning.de/water-cooling/fittings/barbed-fittings/1310mm/4858/13/10mm-10x1-5mm-compression-fitting-outer-thread-1/4-black-nickel

2x these fittings

http://www.aquatuning.de/water-cooling/fittings/barbed-fittings/1310mm/3356/13/10mm-10x1-5mm-compression-fitting-90-revolvable-outer-thread-3/8

Alphacool tube AlphaTube HF 13/10 (3/8"ID) - clear 3m

Swiftech Apogee XL Black

Arctic-Cooling thermal compound MX-4 Tube 4g

EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Wasserkuehlung/Pumpen/Alle-Pumpen/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-D5-Vario-X-RES-140::24009.html?shopgate_redirect=1

All of the parts except for the pump-resevoir are from aquatuning.de

So what do you think? And in the videos you linked to me they added a thing that made draining the loop easier but I couldn't find it. Could you give me an example of that?

[Maxwit44]

@Raka , That Build looks pretty solid to me. Those rad's will fit nicely in the Luxe.

 

I'd be thinking now where you are going to put everything. Especially that pump/res combo. It may be a bit fat if you wish to use the included res mount that comes with the case. In the Enthoo pro there is only about 70mm from the edge of my graphics card to the mount plate (My graphics card is a reference 780). So you may only have the option of putting the pump on the mount point in the back of the case, above the exspansion slots.

 

I didn't watch that video. so I'm not sure what they used. but you could use a T fitting and a ball valve joined together with an end cap. See the links below.

 

http://www.aquatuning.de/wasserkuehlung/anschluesse/adapter/11754/alphacool-hf-anschlussterminal-tee-t-stueck-rund-g1/4-deep-black?c=281

 

http://www.aquatuning.de/wasserkuehlung/anschluesse/kugelhaehne-ventile/14218/phobya-2-wege-kugelhahn-g1/4-geraendelt?c=272

 

 

One thing I've found, Always buy a few extra fittings, thats save my arse a few times, you'll never know when you need them.

 

Have you thought about your layout in the case yet??

[Raka]

@Maxwit44

Yeah I also noticed the problem with placing the reservoir on the 3.5 drive Bay. So I'll go with the one near the expansion slot.

Furthermore I want the 240mm radiator on the bottom and the 360mm on top. Both with their tubing inputs at the front.

The loop would be going from the resevoir-pump to the 240mm rad at the bottom. Then route the tubing through the back of the case to the 360mm rad to the cpu to the mobo to the gpu back to the reservoir.

Should I do this or the other way around?

Also is 360mm + 240mm really enough or would adding a 140mm radiator on the rear be better?

[Maxwit44]

@Raka , I beleive that the 360 and 240 should be enough.

 

As for flow path I would go: Res - Pump - 240 rad - GPU (s) - Mobo - CPU - 360 rad -Res. This helps with keeping the gpus cool, and bleeding air out of the system going from bottom to top. I'll post a pic of What I've done, just to give you and idea when I get home from work.  

[Raka]

@Raka , I beleive that the 360 and 240 should be enough.

As for flow path I would go: Res - Pump - 240 rad - GPU (s) - Mobo - CPU - 360 rad -Res. This helps with keeping the gpus cool, and bleeding air out of the system going from bottom to top. I'll post a pic of What I've done, just to give you and idea when I get home from work.

Would be appreciated. Thanks for all the help

[airdeano]

@Raka

 

welcome to the Linus Tech Tips forums!

 

you fan selection will need to be budgeted as well. some fans can go from €5

to €35 and when outfitting 6x 120 fans the budget gets swamped with 30% in

fans.

 

also, in most accounts, the hydro cards aren't available for months after the

initial release (swiftech production) of the reference model. so you might have

to wait a bit longer or purchase the reference on release and then a water block

​(usually the reference is released quickly) for one thing.. testing the GPU on air

then able to water cool it, when you buy pre-applieds, you have to be loop-ready

to verify the operation of the GPU. the ASUS Poseidon is a fine concept, but

costly for use. either air or water cool it and pay accordingly.

[Raka]

@Raka

welcome to the Linus Tech Tips forums!

you fan selection will need to be budgeted as well. some fans can go from €5

to €35 and when outfitting 6x 120 fans the budget gets swamped with 30% in

fans.

also, in most accounts, the hydro cards aren't available for months after the

initial release (swiftech production) of the reference model. so you might have

to wait a bit longer or purchase the reference on release and then a water block

​(usually the reference is released quickly) for one thing.. testing the GPU on air

then able to water cool it, when you buy pre-applieds, you have to be loop-ready

to verify the operation of the GPU. the ASUS Poseidon is a fine concept, but

costly for use. either air or water cool it and pay accordingly.

Hi right now I'm looking at the Swiftech Helix 120mm it's not very expensive and I have heard good reviews about it. But I would like to know your opinion about them.

Also I probably wouldn't be able to buy the graphics card before Christmas anyway and I can always just buy the reference card with a waterblock like you said (also the 660ti can handle most games on high on a 1440p monitor). And I realized that the ASUS isn't worth it when I'll be watercooling it anyway so I guess that the only preapplied water-cooled gpu is the EVGA Hydrocopper. Not sure about that correct me if I'm wrong.