Memory options MAXIMUS V FORMULA

[asimrc]

Hi guys

 

Looking at upgrading my memory and am confused what all this means

 

This is what asus website says for my board 

 

4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2800(O.C.)/2666(O.C.)/2600(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs. 
 

Does this mean i can get two 8 gb sticks at DDR3 2800.

 

Will it be worth it as my current specs are below:

 

· CPU - Intel 2nd-gen i7 3770K 3.2GHz(3.9GHz Turbo) 12MB Cache

· CPU Cooler - Corsair Hydro Series H80 CPU Cooler - All In One Liquid cooling

· Motherboard - ASUS MAXIMUS V Formula 6-Core Ready Quad-Chn DDR3 USB3 SATA3 CF/SLI Ready

· RAM - Gskill 8GB(2x 4GB) DDR3 1333

· Graphics - HIS 7970 3gb.

· Graphics - HIS 7970 3gb. xfire Bridge

· Primary HDD - Intel SDD160 Series 3 160GB SSD SATA III 6GB/s Max Read/Write: 550/520(MB/s)

· Second HDD - 500Gb SATA 3

· Optical Drive - DVDRW

· Case - ANTEC P280 GAMING CASE

· PSU - OCZ Fatalty 1000w Modular 80+ Gold

· Tripple Screen Stand

· 3 Acer LCD Monitors G235H

 

 

[79wjd]

Theres no reason to get anything more than 1600 as it doesn't matter. 

 

/1333 is just as good for gaming as anything else. It just doesn't matter. 

[JAKEBAB]

Yes u can as for will it be worth ti the speed isnt going to do much and it depends if u need more ram really

[aricleather]

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I would recommend at least 1600mhz RAM. Your motherboard supports all Non-ECC DDR3 RAM running at frequencies of 2800mhz or less. The RAM in your current build will work. You can have 2GB sticks, 4GB, 8GB sticks, it'll work. Just don't mix and match, and if you buy a kit now and plan to upgrade, buy the same kit.

[WoodenMarker]

Does this mean i can get two 8 gb sticks at DDR3 2800

Yes, you can. Pretty much any ddr3 ram will be fine. 

The 'upgrade' probably won't make any noticeable performance difference though. 

[asimrc]

I would recommend at least 1600mhz RAM. Your motherboard supports all Non-ECC DDR3 RAM running at frequencies of 2800mhz or less. The RAM in your current build will work. You can have 2GB sticks, 4GB, 8GB sticks, it'll work. Just don't mix and match, and if you buy a kit now and plan to upgrade, buy the same kit.

 

 

So I should buy 2 x 4gb again of the exact same ram?

 

or other wise i will have to buy 2 x 8gb sticks to get to my 16gb level.

 

Main reason why I am looking to do this is when i run battlefield on tripple screen eye-infinity frps drops to 30 from 40 when an intense battle is on.

[aricleather]

So I should buy 2 x 4gb again of the exact same ram?

 

or other wise i will have to buy 2 x 8gb sticks to get to my 16gb level.

 

Main reason why I am looking to do this is when i run battlefield on tripple screen eye-infinity frps drops to 30 from 40 when an intense battle is on.

 

If you buy the exact same 2x4 kit at the start, there's a better chance the RAM will work with eachother. Just insert the second pair of 2x4GB RAM into the remaining two DIMM slots. Make sure when installing the first 2x4 kits to consult the manual and place them in the right DIMM slots, or else dual channel operation won't kick in.

[AlwaysFSX]

Theres no reason to get anything more than 1600 as it doesn't matter. 

 

/1333 is just as good for gaming as anything else. It just doesn't matter. 

You're wrong, higher clocked ram will get you better gaming performance. Under 10% but it's still something.

[79wjd]

You're wrong, higher clocked ram will get you better gaming performance. Under 10% but it's still something.

not really. 

 

higher frequency, higher latency.

[AlwaysFSX]

not really. 

 

higher frequency, higher latency.

higher frequency =/= higher latency

 

Latency can stay the same even when you increase the frequency. Why do you think there's 1333 memory with a CAS of 9 and there's 1600 memory with a CAS of 9 and even 1866 memory with a CAS of 9.

[deathjester]

You're wrong, higher clocked ram will get you better gaming performance. Under 10% but it's still something.

 

Depends on the game. In Guild Wars 2 I got another solid 1 fps OC my 1600 9-9-9-2x to 1866  9-10-9-28 T1. Past that? Gains were really small. I did get a nice bump in Cinebench R15 though, especially at 2133. 

 

Other games I noticed Zero difference. Guild Wars 2 is SUPER cpu bound though. WoW would prob be same and Wild Star. Same deal. 

 

Anandtech did a nice comparison. Has multiple games on it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

 

Linus also did a video. 1866 seems to be the sweet spot, but any decent brand 1600 CL9 1.5v can overclock to 1866 timings. 2133 not all the time. Past that latency starts to suck, and might even be slower in games.

[asimrc]

Depends on the game. In Guild Wars 2 I got another solid 1 fps OC my 1600 9-9-9-2x to 1866  9-10-9-28 T1. Past that? Gains were really small. I did get a nice bump in Cinebench R15 though, especially at 2133. 

 

Other games I noticed Zero difference. Guild Wars 2 is SUPER cpu bound though. WoW would prob be same and Wild Star. Same deal. 

 

Anandtech did a nice comparison. Has multiple games on it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

 

Linus also did a video. 1866 seems to be the sweet spot, but any decent brand 1600 CL9 1.5v can overclock to 1866 timings. 2133 not all the time. Past that latency starts to suck, and might even be slower in games.

 

 

So can i run 1866 on mine?

i might buy a complete new 16gb kit

[deathjester]

So can i run 1866 on mine?

i might buy a complete new 16gb kit

 

Ivy Bridge memory controller isn't as good as Haswell but 1866 should work no problem with a OC. Haswell can usually do up to 2400 ram with a OC on the CPU as well. 

 

CPU OC > Ram OC though and by quite a bit.  

 

Like I said though past about 2133 CL 9-10 it starts to suck for gaming. As other people said the latency just gets too darn high.  High bandwidth/speed is good for GPU, but not so great for CPU. 

 

I would just get something like a G.skill 1866 cl9 1.5v kit if you don't want to mess with it. Pretty much best bang for buck. If you ever get bored you can prob get CL10 possibly cl9 on it at 2133.

 

Use Aida 64 cache and mem benchmark and or maxxmem to find lowest latency and go with that. Lil weird out it works. 2133 cl10 can be lower latency then 1866 cl9, but 2133 cl11 would be slower. Latency basically changes with speed. It gets to a point where you have to loosen timings up so much though, that you hit a wall for gaming.

[79wjd]

I would just get something like a G.skill 1866 cl9 1.5v kit if you don't want to mess with it. Pretty much best bang for buck. If you ever get bored you can prob get CL10 possibly cl9 on it at 2133.

From nothing, yes. But its not really worth the money to upgrade from 8gb 1333mhz. 

[asimrc]

How much of a gain will i get in terms of % for gaming?

[asimrc]

From nothing, yes. But its not really worth the money to upgrade from 8gb 1333mhz. 

 

 

Ivy Bridge memory controller isn't as good as Haswell but 1866 should work no problem with a OC. Haswell can usually do up to 2400 ram with a OC on the CPU as well. 

 

CPU OC > Ram OC though and by quite a bit.

 

Like I said though past about 2133 CL 9-10 it starts to suck for gaming. As other people said the latency just gets too darn high.  High bandwidth/speed is good for GPU, but not so great for CPU. 

 

I would just get something like a G.skill 1866 cl9 1.5v kit if you don't want to mess with it. Pretty much best bang for buck. If you ever get bored you can prob get CL10 possibly cl9 on it at 2133.

 

Use Aida 64 cache and mem benchmark and or maxxmem to find lowest latency and go with that. Lil weird out it works. 2133 cl10 can be lower latency then 1866 cl9, but 2133 cl11 would be slower. Latency basically changes with speed. It gets to a point where you have to loosen timings up so much though, that you hit a wall for gaming.

 

 

Depends on the game. In Guild Wars 2 I got another solid 1 fps OC my 1600 9-9-9-2x to 1866  9-10-9-28 T1. Past that? Gains were really small. I did get a nice bump in Cinebench R15 though, especially at 2133. 

 

Other games I noticed Zero difference. Guild Wars 2 is SUPER cpu bound though. WoW would prob be same and Wild Star. Same deal. 

 

Anandtech did a nice comparison. Has multiple games on it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

 

Linus also did a video. 1866 seems to be the sweet spot, but any decent brand 1600 CL9 1.5v can overclock to 1866 timings. 2133 not all the time. Past that latency starts to suck, and might even be slower in games.

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[deathjester]

How much of a gain will i get in terms of % for gaming?

 

In a crossfire/SLI build. Possibly a decent bit. On a single card? Not much. I think anandtech has Xfire benchmarks on the benchmarks I posted.

 

Basically it helps integrated GPU a metric @#%^ ton, single GPU's not much, dual/triple card setups quite a bit. This is why Corsair did their test in a surround. It saw a decent help from ram speed. A single GPU wouldn't have been very impressive. Most people run one card which is why they say it doesn't matter. They are right. For one card? It is not much at all. 

 

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory

[asimrc]

In a crossfire/SLI build. Possibly a decent bit. On a single card? Not much. I think anandtech has Xfire benchmarks on the benchmarks I posted.

 

Basically it helps integrated GPU a metric @#%^ ton, single GPU's not much, dual/triple card setups quite a bit. This is why Corsair did their test in a surround. It saw a decent help from ram speed. A single GPU wouldn't have been very impressive. Most people run one card which is why they say it doesn't matter. They are right. For one card? It is not much at all. 

 

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/october/battlefield-4-loves-high-speed-memory

 

I wont be over clocking. So a stock 16gk kit @ 1866 will show a minor improvement.