Will AM3+ be outdated soon?

[Kogi]

Hi guys, I'm new here. I'm an aspiring first time builder and I have always though about getting the AMD FX 6300 for my first CPU. But it just hit me, is the AM3+ platform beginning to get outdated?

 

 

Here's a little of my background: Looking to make a budget build sometime around November. I'm a low-medium gamer who will mostly 2 games you guys have probably never even heard of before(GunZ: The Duel and GunZ 2: The Second Duel) and I want to experiment in some modern day titles once I make my build. The build is going to be strictly for gaming with a couple programs like skype, no video editing or anything that heavy. I probably won't overclock or I will learn to do some very minimal overclocking in the future.

 

 

So now onto the discussion. Would getting an FX 6300 severely limit my upgrading options or will it get outdated in the near future? I'm not sure if AMD is going to keep building off the AM3+ platform. So I was thinking the FM2+ platform with an AMD Athlon X4 760K is also a possibility. It could save me some money and it's got a newer chipset too. Since I'm budget I really don't plan to SLI or crossfire. The GPU that really appeals to me EVGA GTX 750 Ti doesn't have SLI anyway. I've thought about Kaveri before but will cpu side make me satisfied? AMD looks like they would build more of a future on FM2+ rather than AM3+ though. What are your thoughts guys?

 

 

Sorry if this thread was a little too long lol. 

 

 

 

[lani100]

Yes it's almost dead.

But fm2+ wil limit you more when you want to upgrade so if you decide to go with amd go for am3+

[The_Strict_Nein]

It's effectively a dead platform, in that no more CPUs are going to be released for it

 

If a new generation of FX CPUs come to market, they'll be AM4, and likely incompatible with anything AM3.

 

If you buy an FX now you're effectively locking yourself into a maximum of an 8350 (the 9000 series isn't worth it) without buying a new mobo

[Opcode]

Already is...

[Hecknologist]

AMD has turned to APUs solely so i think it is safe to say the am3+ socket won't be getting a revival any time soon, and if it does I doubt it would be backwards compatible with what is currently available. At the end of the day, if you can get a good price on a 6300 and compatible motherboard it will be better than getting an APU and a dedicated graphics card as you're simply wasting money on integrated gpu power that you won't use, and if in a year or so you decide that you want more power you can either grab an 8350 or update to whatever is current. The way I see it is whether you get an am3+ system or fm2+ you will most likely need to update both mobo and processor later down the track. Go for what you can get at the best price.

[Kogi]

What about sticking with the Athlon X4 760K? It's cheaper and okay clock speed but only 4 cores. Would that be the most bang for my buck until I make enough for upgrading both the motherboard and cpu? I'll be watching the cpu/motherboard sales like a hawk lol.

 

 

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[dragoon20005]

if you google the AMD current roadmap

 

it all filled with APU series and uses the FM2+ platform

 

so you can be sure the AM3+ is dead

 

the 760K is by far still a decent CPU based on it price point

 

and most modern games are usually GPU bound

 

there are still plus point going on the FM2+ platform which is support for PCI-E 3.0, mSATA and many more

[dragoon20005]

What about sticking with the Athlon X4 760K? It's cheaper and okay clock speed but only 4 cores. Would that be the most bang for my buck until I make enough for upgrading both the motherboard and cpu? I'll be watching the cpu/motherboard sales like a hawk lol.

 

 

Thanks for the feedback guys.

yes that chip is good

 

on air cooling you still can OC all the way up to 5GHz

 

and no problem pairing it with a R9 280/X maybe even 290 have no issues

[GloriousPain]

Hi guys, I'm new here. I'm an aspiring first time builder and I have always though about getting the AMD FX 6300 for my first CPU. But it just hit me, is the AM3+ platform beginning to get outdated?

 

 

Here's a little of my background: Looking to make a budget build sometime around November. I'm a low-medium gamer who will mostly 2 games you guys have probably never even heard of before(GunZ: The Duel and GunZ 2: The Second Duel) and I want to experiment in some modern day titles once I make my build. The build is going to be strictly for gaming with a couple programs like skype, no video editing or anything that heavy. I probably won't overclock or I will learn to do some very minimal overclocking in the future.

 

 

So now onto the discussion. Would getting an FX 6300 severely limit my upgrading options or will it get outdated in the near future? I'm not sure if AMD is going to keep building off the AM3+ platform. So I was thinking the FM2+ platform with an AMD Athlon X4 760K is also a possibility. It could save me some money and it's got a newer chipset too. Since I'm budget I really don't plan to SLI or crossfire. The GPU that really appeals to me EVGA GTX 750 Ti doesn't have SLI anyway. I've thought about Kaveri before but will cpu side make me satisfied? AMD looks like they would build more of a future on FM2+ rather than AM3+ though. What are your thoughts guys?

 

 

Sorry if this thread was a little too long lol. 

It is dead AMD has said they are ending the FX series which is the AM socket series... With the FM Series Cpus I honestly think an APU might be better of a cpu than an athalon specially if HSA becomes widespread which would turn an A10 7850k would basically have 12 cores with athalon has similar cpu power already but no real potential... You might have to wait for AMD's new CPU line which is supposedly to compete with Intels i7s...imagine an 8 core cpu with hyperthreading... Go with Intel for a while... or just upgrade to a FX 9k CPU

[Manny Calavera]

you can get i3 since you dont wanna oc, you can get cheapest mobo out there and use stock heatsink and you are set

[samuel]

Yes, it is outdated. But if you already own an AM3+ system or you have the oportunity to upgrade for cheap, the performance is plenty on 8 or even 6 cores.

[Sintezza]

What is outdated on AM3+?

 

990FX chipset boards have all the bells and whissels that current Z87/Z97 boards have as well.

usb 3.0 sata 6. only thing that they don´t have is sata express, but  that is not hitting the market right now anyway.

 

Its totaly not outdated.

 

That am3+ is dead is most likely but in 2016 there will be probably a new FX line of cpu´s, but probably on AM4.

On the otherhand, intel sockets are allready dead on launch day, so what is the point?

 

Also i dont know why people still talk about an i3, yes in some old games, it shines, but in most todays games, and heavy workloads it just sucks ass.

[i_build_nanosuits]

it won't change anything if it's outdated or not, or dead or not, every socket has it's time, socket 1155 is dead and the ivy cpu's are still going strong and as long as AMD won't have any other high end products line it will continue to supply FX line cpu's...

FM2 will never be the high-end platform and no CPU's faster than the FX 8 core piledriver will ever be released on that socket either...socket 1150 will die soon as well...intel loves to kill socket all the time...so don't worry about dead or not, worry about good for what i do now and in the next few years, or not...and i can tell you the FX 6300 is an excellent PC budget conscious CPU choice and at this price point it's defenetly the CPU to get.

 

Pair that with the best GPU you can afford within your budget and 8GB or RAM and you have a killer gaming rig.

FX-6300 + AM3+ 970 chipset board + Radeon R9 270, R9 280 or R9 280X for example is a very good, well balanced, gaming and editing rig.

 

On the other end, you could get an intel core i3 that would do good as well in most games, thinking of upgrading it to a core i7-4790 in the future...but by the time your i3 will no longer be enough and will require replacement all you will find on the market are used 2 years old core i7-4770 that will still be worth like 300$ on ebay, but you will be better off buying a new socket 1152abcWTF DDR4 motherboard from intel with a core i5-5770 or something like that...i hope you get the idea of how things work and why nothing is really ''future proof'' or ''upgradable'' on the mobo/CPU/RAM side of things...the only ''real'' upgradable and somewhat ''more futureproof'' socket was the socket 2011, the users who jumped on that wagon when it came out are now upgrading today with a worthy CPU on the SAME MOTHERBOARD, yes, but those boards cost much more and the CPU are enthousiast grade and price CPU's...

[Faa]

Also i dont know why people still talk about an i3, yes in some old games, it shines, but in most todays games, and heavy workloads it just sucks ass.

It doesn't. Games where 6300's pull ahead, it doesnt look like a power hog. And it's not only in old games they excel, literally any massive multiplayer doesn't matter how new/old they are - they all suffer from the CPU overhead.

[Opcode]

The i3-4130 and a H97 (or Z97 if you want to upgrade your CPU and overclock in the future) motherboard is what you should be looking at. It can handle any modern game, and Gunz is more of a MMO so it's more than likely dependent on core performance (not a heavily threaded game). I say skip the whole AM3+ idea and just go Intel. The i3-4130 will handle any of the games you play with power to spare, and it will be more than enough for future games (seems you're primarily a mmo player).

[Kamina]

I would say it's already outdated. 

[Opcode]

The i3-4150 is on sale for only $119.99 today. Pair it with a decent H97 board like this and you're good to go.

[Trik'Stari]

An apu + graphics card is not a waste of onboard graphics, pair it with the compatible radeon card in dual graphics mode and use both.

[MeesterJackson]

8350 is still a reliable chip, though AM4 is rumored next year/2016. I highly doubt you want to wait that long so an i5-4690k is the best choice in that price region. 

[dragoon20005]

An apu + graphics card is not a waste of onboard graphics, pair it with the compatible radeon card in dual graphics mode and use both.

only the max is R7 250 which can be use for Dual graphics with the A10-7850K thou

[Trik'Stari]

@dragoon20005 Is it? Thats what I could never figure out, AMD isn't exactly clear on it on their website.

[dragoon20005]

@dragoon20005 Is it? Thats what I could never figure out, AMD isn't exactly clear on it on their website.

yea on amd site has no info

but info on many tech sites and forum confirmed this during the review of the a10 apu that only the R7 240 & 250 will only be supported.

Bottomline is that the performance gain from dual graphics is not worth the money. Better to get a mid range gpu like the R9 270 for better fps.

[Trik'Stari]

Interesting, I wonder why AMD did that. Too bad it was a good idea. Especially if they could do something where you had the onboard graphics running with two r290's and make it be better than just dual xfire or sli.

[KamiKatze]

Pentium G3258 to the rescue!! Using that + a good Z97 board would be a good alternative and open a greater upgrade path.

[Opcode]

Pentium G3258 to the rescue!! Using that + a good Z97 board would be a good alternative and open a greater upgrade path.

Problem is the Pentium G3258 performs terrible at stock clocks, and I assume he doesn't want to overclock. He would be better off investing a bit more for the i3-4150.