New CPU for basic desktop

[Noilliz]

Hey guys,

 

I have a question my parents pc died and needs a replacement.

 

The current CPU is a I5-650, Now they don't need a super fast pc since all they do is using the internet and Microsoft office programs.

So i thought that the i3-4130 would do the job just fine but my dad refuses to get an I3 since he had a I5...

 

Now my question is. Do you guys agree that the I3-4130 would do the job just fine. or does he really need the more expensive I5 just for browsing the web?

 

Cheers,

 

Joey

 

[Tea1337]

Yes, just tell him with the 4th generation technology it's 2x faster than the i5 he has that is a first generation or something

[Recon-UK]

Eh? the i5 650 is overkill for office....

[LukaP]

i5 650

2 cores, 4 threads

3.2GHz

Nahalem slowpoke

 

i3 4130

2 cores, 4 threads

3.4 GHz

Haswell masterrace  

 

 

the i3 will be an upgrade ^^

[Ren]

Go with something cheaper but use an SSD for the boot drive.

 

Tell him you bought the new i9-9965XK Extreme Edition 20 core unlocked Xeon.

[madscientist56]

Get the i3 and an ssd, then when he sees faster desktop performance he will think 'wow this processer is faster!' but you will know its really just the ssd

[Createinator]

i3 4130 will be quite a bit faster than his old i5 650. If he refuses to buy the i3... go for i5 4440, its fairly cheap and works pretty good

[i_build_nanosuits]

a dual core pentium haswell would already be overkill for any typical and daily use application. The i3 is much more than what you really need...i would even consider the pentium G3440 for an office PC

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Pentium G3440 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)

Motherboard:  MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($43.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $133.98

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-11 08:24 EDT-0400)

[Noilliz]

Wow... First post on the forums and within a few min plenty of reply's. Thank you guys a lot for all the help.
 
You guys seem to think about it exactly the same way as i do. and i have been thinking about putting a SSD inside as well. If got a SSD inside my laptop and myself i could never go back to a HDD. That means i really am going to have to get that old grumpy man to believe that the I3 is faster, that is going to be hard.

 

And I_Build_nanosuits i could never get him to buy a pentium processor ever again haha.

 

Well thanks for the help guys. I'm gona try to convince him to get the I3

[i_build_nanosuits]

Some benchmarks to help you deal with it:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/364/Intel_Core_i3_i3-4130_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-650.html

See, the core i3-4130 is MUCH faster across the board.

And YES an SSD is a fabulous thing to make office pc MUCH faster...you need a 120GB at least and put windows 8.1 on it.

[Noilliz]

I will just stick with windows 7 for them. My parents are used to it and can't get used to windows 8.1 id let them try it for 2 months but they didn't like it. Even with the win 7 start menu they couldn't get used to it. so they will stick with windows 7 even when they know windows 8.1 is faster.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I will just stick with windows 7 for them. My parents are used to it and can't get used to windows 8.1 id let them try it for 2 months but they didn't like it. Even with the win 7 start menu they couldn't get used to it. so they will stick with windows 7 even when they know windows 8.1 is faster.

i respect that, absolutely no problem windows 7 is a great OS. i mostly meant to install the OS on the SSD for fast operation...

[Noilliz]

Yes exactly, myself i thought to drop the OS, office and the web browsers on it. and then u still would have some space for some other stuff!

[harrynowl]

Buy an SSD but tell them it's a processor when it arrives?

[Vrbas]

Yeah a SSD would benefit him more then a processor upgrade would.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Yeah a SSD would benefit him more then a processor upgrade would.

the old CPU is dead...

[Vrbas]

the old CPU is dead...

Ah misread ha. But still recommend a SSD .

[Noilliz]

Alright guys, i have had a chat with my dad and managed to explain him that the I3 4th gen is better then his dead i5 1th gen. thanks to i_build_nanosuits for the benchmark link. that helped a lot trying to explain him why its better.

 

So for how this is what we will buy to get his system running again. 

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 / 3.4Ghz

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4

SSD: Kingston: SSDNow V300 120GB

 

Since i am from the netherlands its kinda hard for me to buy from newegg so i buy my stuff at azerty.nl a dutch hardware store so the prices my be a bit different.

 

But what do you guys think about the mobo and ssd? i went with a slightly bigger mobo then he needs. So there is room for a bit of expansion if needed.

The SSD was one of the cheaper ones around and with 120GB storage its enough to get the system running with the OS and a few programs.

And compaired to other ssd's the Write and Read speed seem to be okey.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Alright guys, i have had a chat with my dad and managed to explain him that the I3 4th gen is better then his dead i5 1th gen. thanks to i_build_nanosuits for the benchmark link. that helped a lot trying to explain him why its better.

 

So for how this is what we will buy to get his system running again. 

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 / 3.4Ghz

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4

SSD: Kingston: SSDNow V300 120GB

 

Since i am from the netherlands its kinda hard for me to buy from newegg so i buy my stuff at azerty.nl a dutch hardware store so the prices my be a bit different.

 

But what do you guys think about the mobo and ssd? i went with a slightly bigger mobo then he needs. So there is room for a bit of expansion if needed.

The SSD was one of the cheaper ones around and with 120GB storage its enough to get the system running with the OS and a few programs.

And compaired to other ssd's the Write and Read speed seem to be okey.

absolutely nothing wrong with this motherboard or this SSD, 2 great choices in my opinion.

i do use the SSD now V300 120gb for my games (BF4 and watch dogs are installed on it ATM) and it is lightning fast and very reliable...good choice.

[Priller]

Alright guys, i have had a chat with my dad and managed to explain him that the I3 4th gen is better then his dead i5 1th gen. thanks to i_build_nanosuits for the benchmark link. that helped a lot trying to explain him why its better.

 

So for how this is what we will buy to get his system running again. 

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 / 3.4Ghz

Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4

SSD: Kingston: SSDNow V300 120GB

 

Since i am from the netherlands its kinda hard for me to buy from newegg so i buy my stuff at azerty.nl a dutch hardware store so the prices my be a bit different.

 

But what do you guys think about the mobo and ssd? i went with a slightly bigger mobo then he needs. So there is room for a bit of expansion if needed.

The SSD was one of the cheaper ones around and with 120GB storage its enough to get the system running with the OS and a few programs.

And compaired to other ssd's the Write and Read speed seem to be okey.

 

If I remember correctly Kingston switched the controller on the V300 models and it actually hurt performance.

 

Something like the MX100, M550, 840 Pro, 840 Evo, and Corsair Neutron would be my top 5 picks for SSDs.

[i_build_nanosuits]

If I remember correctly Kingston switched the controller on the V300 models and it actually hurt performance.

 

Something like the MX100, M550, 840 Pro, 840 Evo, and Corsair Neutron would be my top 5 picks for SSDs.

indeed, the controler was corrected for better reliability, they are now about 5% slower but they will last, it was a very good trade off they made, for the price those SSD's are tuff to beat.

[Opcode]

The i3-4130 is plenty enough, your dad does understand architecture improvements and die shrinks have boasted core performance over the years. The i3 also rocks two cores and four threads like the i5-650. It's a good buy and I am willing to bet he wont ever push it past 50% usage doing "standard stuff".

 

If I remember correctly Kingston switched the controller on the V300 models and it actually hurt performance.

 

Something like the MX100, M550, 840 Pro, 840 Evo, and Corsair Neutron would be my top 5 picks for SSDs.

 

indeed, the controler was corrected for better reliability, they are now about 5% slower but they will last, it was a very good trade off they made, for the price those SSD's are tuff to beat.

Kingston actually stopped using synchronous NAND for the V300 line and is now using asynchronous. This is what crippled the new V300 SSD's, I have one of the older V300's with the good Toshiba NAND and it's performance shows both 540 MB/s reads and writes. The V300 is still a good cheap drive, just nothing like it use to be.

[Noilliz]

Well it sounds like all the products will do just fine, The old computer still has 2x2GB 1333Mhz DDR3 ram inside it. I assume that there is no need for a replacement there.

 

and about the SSD, it sounds like the Kingston SSDNow V300 will do its job just fine. But i found that the Crusial M500 has exacly the same price and storage size. A slightly higher read speed but the write speed is a lot lower. What do you guys think

 

Kingston SSDNow V300 or Crusial M500

[PathfinderNC]

The Crucial M500 is usually more reliable. I would go with that one, and the read speed is what counts most for a budget SSD. The write speed is still higher than most HDDs. Also, I agree with the I3 choice. That thing is even a little bit stronger than my phenom quad core (according to cpu-world).

[Faa]

Who cares about performance if it comes down to SSD's anyways? Don't get it, didnt notice a thing between my agility 3 and 840 pro. Normal usage btw. I like to have a one click firmware update option which would be my only reason to get samsung.